Quote Originally Posted by informal View Post
Yes it can,but it is not the case with K10 clocking and SB750.
Can you point me to a proof that Ed Stroligo's bs is valid?Thanks.
Can you point us to proof that it is invalid? Ed admittedly offered an educated guess as to what these 6 "magic" pins do. All you have offered is "knowledge" that this isn't the case along with a statement that is completely untrue (that clock skewing is only related to memory channels).

How do you know....????

But seriously it does make you wonder if its just not some strategy to boost their sales....

They were in a lot of trouble last year.... so...

1. Launch a crippled Phenom + RD790 with SB600 knowing that some would sell because of the wait for them...
2. Launch Black Editions which will then sell further and in all likelihood those who bought initially will also buy to replace the previously bought useless chips
3. Launch AM2+ mobo's with SB700, people with SB600 replace mobo looking for better performance
4. Launch SB750, and now utilise a hidden means of releasing the handicap of previous versions, people again buy new SB750 mobos, to replace their previous models


All this time AMD are cashing in with sales of mobos, CPU's being bought and then replaced,..... how many here can say they still have their original Phenom and mobo combination....!!!

I know I've changed 2 different Phenoms and at least 1 mobo..and will be getting a new 790FX/SB750 as well.... ..!!!

Of course theres no gain to be made from them holding back the Phenom any longer, as now there's an alternative choice in the shape of the NV 780a boards being available so all of a sudden the SB750 'magic' fix suddenly appears.... though all those NV780a mobo buyers will be cursing now, as having just bought their new mobo, its the AMD SB750 that releases this hidden perfromance boost with Phenom.... and guess what it suddenly becomes available as NV chipset boards are more readily availalbe...

It could all be a strategy....we see this kind of thing in the GFX cards market all the time, with NV and ATI , NV release one card to counter a card launched by ATI and vice versa....

Could it be that AMD have been holding onto their Trump card, waiting for NV boards for Phenom to be released before then releasing the SB750 to boost their own chipset sales...??????

Who knows....bit of wild speculation....been bored so my minds been racing...: Flights of fantasy and all that...!!!! But it could be plausible to some extent..!!!

HMMmmmmm....!!!!
If it is, its an idiotic strategy. Fact is AMD isn't cashing in, they are hemorraging money (search for their Q2 financial results). A healthy Phenom and SB750 at launch time would have probably helped stave off Intel's price war for a while and helped AMD make some money off these chips. The bug with the B2s cost AMD a LOT in the high-performance computing environments where they still had an advantage due to superior scaling in multiple-socket machines.