Intel brings forward Nehalem Launch

[Hornet331]

damn again money to spend... this year will be expensive.

500€ phone (already done), 800€ nehalem, 250€-300€ board, 450€ for 6gb ddr3, 300€-400€ for new gfx card and least but not last 400€ for a new monitor....

crap 2900€ gone and it not even christmas.

[WaxCactus]

to be honest i dont see a soild reason to change from a Q6600 witch is strong enough for
everything today.
i think i will stay with Q6600 untill it will be weak in the games/softwares or at least a 50% improvment new Cpu..
Cpus This days.. the same..

[Bobsama]

Well that looks interesting. I'll hold off until they have the DP Octacore parts. I want 32 logical cores... for World Community Grid and then a graphics card or two or three for GPU folding.

Shopping list for the next year...
Initial DP Octacore Nehalem and platform and RAM... $2500
New graphics cards... $400
Samsung Instinct... $200 and then $100/month after
New monitor... $250
New keyboard & mouse... $150
New speaker system... $150

Yeah--lots of money going down the drain in the next 12 months.

[Blauhung]

Well that looks interesting. I'll hold off until they have the DP Octacore parts. I want 32 logical cores... for World Community Grid and then a graphics card or two or three for GPU folding.

Shopping list for the next year...
Initial DP Octacore Nehalem and platform and RAM... $2500
New graphics cards... $400
Samsung Instinct... $200 and then $100/month after
New monitor... $250
New keyboard & mouse... $150
New speaker system... $150

Yeah--lots of money going down the drain in the next 12 months.

If your thinking DP with each socket having 8 cores, don't expect that until Sandy Bridge, the new architecture on 32nm. Probably some time in 2010

[Oldguy932]

Well, 16 threads should be enough... for now.

[Xoulz]

Oh no.. I have to re-calculate my financial roadmap!




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[deathman20]

Damn alot quicker than I expected. If that was the case I would of waited for my new Mobo purchase. Oh well guess I might just consider getting a quad core then.

[terrace215]

If your thinking DP with each socket having 8 cores, don't expect that until Sandy Bridge, the new architecture on 32nm. Probably some time in 2010

You mean because Beckton is technically an MP part, right? But isn't it possible there will be a motherboard out there that has 2 Beckton sockets on it?

Due H209 on 45nm IIRC (Beckton, I mean).

[Bobsama]

If your thinking DP with each socket having 8 cores, don't expect that until Sandy Bridge, the new architecture on 32nm. Probably some time in 2010

You sure about that? I was expecting it at latest with the 32nm shrink. Realistically, it seems that Intel's DP package will be designed so you can slap two or more processors. I don't particularly care about "native" v. "glued", so long as I can have 8 cores per processor. I'd think it stupid of Intel if they stuck to duals and quads for another generation. If Nehalem is a native quad, why not glue two together and charge 125% the price of a normal quad? If the Conroe --> Kentsfield is any sign of what's to come, I'd assume that the initial quads will be tweaked and finally glued together for some octas.

You mean because Beckton is technically an MP part, right? But isn't it possible there will be a motherboard out there that has 2 Beckton sockets on it?

Due H209 on 45nm IIRC (Beckton, I mean).

I'd personally prefer 2-socket to 4-socket... 4-socket takes up too much motherboard real estate, real estate that I'd want to use for expansion slots for graphics cards.

[bowman]

You sure about that? I was expecting it at latest with the 32nm shrink. Realistically, it seems that Intel's DP package will be designed so you can slap two or more processors. I don't particularly care about "native" v. "glued", so long as I can have 8 cores per processor. I'd think it stupid of Intel if they stuck to duals and quads for another generation. If Nehalem is a native quad, why not glue two together and charge 125% the price of a normal quad? If the Conroe --> Kentsfield is any sign of what's to come, I'd assume that the initial quads will be tweaked and finally glued together for some octas.

The 32nm version will have 6 cores, so somewhere in between. 12 cores and 24 threads enough?

You mean because Beckton is technically an MP part, right? But isn't it possible there will be a motherboard out there that has 2 Beckton sockets on it?

Due H209 on 45nm IIRC (Beckton, I mean).

Take a look at the pricing for Tigerton and Dunnington to see why this is irrelevant..

[RealTelstar]

damn again money to spend... this year will be expensive.

500€ phone (already done), 800€ nehalem, 250€-300€ board, 450€ for 6gb ddr3, 300€-400€ for new gfx card and least but not last 400€ for a new monitor....

crap 2900€ gone and it not even christmas.

phone: dont need it
nehalem rig: to do (between 2000 and 3000 euros depending on SSD prices)
new gfx card: already bought
new monitor: already bought

Lastly, I never ever buy hw stuff before xmas. The latest is the first week of november. Then january, after the big post holidays pricedrops-

[Akabeth]

I'm gonna wait for the 32nm shrink.

QX9770 will do for the time being

My experience has been pretty good when upgrading on the refresh

[Bobsama]

I just want 8 Nehalem cores per processor... And why 6? It's a funny number if you ask me, for processing cores.

Oh and for MP parts--I would never spend $1000 on a single processor.

If all else fails, I could just go with 6 or so 1U systems... take up a little bit more space than a tower on its side, but with plenty more processing power.

[comc49]

damn again money to spend... this year will be expensive.

500€ phone

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what kind of phone costs 500 euros???

[geo]

hmm... lets see
Nehalem - $264
Mobo - $300
4GB DDR3 - $300

are these cheapest possible Nehalem components? in September?

[Blauhung]

I just want 8 Nehalem cores per processor... And why 6? It's a funny number if you ask me, for processing cores.

Oh and for MP parts--I would never spend $1000 on a single processor.

If all else fails, I could just go with 6 or so 1U systems... take up a little bit more space than a tower on its side, but with plenty more processing power.

well with the current amount of space 8 nehalem cores take up, you need a physically larger package. Second, the production costs are through the roof and you would be paying much more then $1k on a single socket. Even on 32nm. sticking 8 cores is cost prohibitive for this market.

[Bobsama]

Ok. Well then I'd probably have to wait for the 32nm shrink to get my 16-core dream. Yeah--six SP 1U systems in a small rack would be better for crunching.

[XS Janus]

what kind of phone costs 500 euros???

In the old lands, your average contract-free smart-phone does.

[mrcape]

Not being a troll here, but are a lot of you guys really going to jump on this in Q4? I think I'll be waiting until I see some results that can beat current e86/x48/P45 benchmark scores. I am really curious to see what tweaks will be available in the high end bioses. Until then it's kinda boring IMO.

[Nelly]

$450 for 6GB of DDR3 is a very unrealistic price, not to mention that 6GB of memory is rather insane. 3GB is going to be enough for most people. You can get 2GB of DDR3-1333 for $60 right now. So you can expect to pay maybe ~$100 for 3GB of DDR3 in Q4, DDR3-1333 with good latencies.

It's probably more like:

Nehalem 2.66GHz : $300
X58 Motherboard : $200-300 depending on manufacturer
3GB DDR3-1333 : $100
Total Price: $600-700

Each to their own, I was just looking at what I was thinking of looking at, is their actually any reviews yet showing the difference in performance with X58 for DDR3-1333, DDR3-1600, DDR3-1800, DDR3-2000?

Sometimes memory prices increase especially the run up till christmas, but I doubt it this year, people havent got the money - credit crunch / recession gonna hit the USA & probally the UK like a ton of bricks, lots of people losing jobs.

Can't you run X58 in dual channel mode? or wont the architecture allow it?

[Ruroni]

Not being a troll here, but are a lot of you guys really going to jump on this in Q4? I think I'll be waiting until I see some results that can beat current e86/x48/P45 benchmark scores. I am really curious to see what tweaks will be available in the high end bioses. Until then it's kinda boring IMO.

I imagine we'll see that stuff as more people get the chip (ES). I want to see OC.

[WaxCactus]

im almost sure everyone will get a X58 motherboard with some SLI with the hope it wont be disappointing
as skulltrail.

[alucasa]

Yep, a lot earlier than I expected. From early ES samples, the improvement is significant. While it will not be as great as Netburst -> Core arch, it is still good enough.

I will first grab the cheapest one available and replace a DP L5310 WCG rig and then wait for few stepping advancements before going DP.

[Chewbenator]

im almost sure everyone will get a X58 motherboard with some SLI with the hope it wont be disappointing
as skulltrail.

Who's everyone? I'm waiting till Q4 next year to step up to Nehalem, as people have said for a mainstream user there's nothing that won't run on an OCed q6600 + 280GTX/4870. Even that is overkill for most people. Sure there are those that might need that kind of processing power for their everyday lives, but it's definitely a minority. Hopefully by then (Q4-09) ddr3 prices will be around ddr2 now and there will be some tried and true budget OC motherboards which will make the system upgrade easier. Good to see that they are bringing forward the launch, but doesn't this mean it will be a paper launch because the parts won't be arriving?

[Warboy]

Nehalem FTW.

The Quad is going to be a native-quad right? so bring it on! That means it's easier to cool, since it's not 2 dies smashed together.