The Maximus Formula Thread - Help/OCing/Guide/Rampage conversion

[Grnfinger]

hello all,

finely i manage to get 9*400=3600GHz stable 24/7 OCCT 2.0+PRIME95.
but now i stock even if i rise 1MHz more, the board give me "DET RAM"/"VGA BIOS" errors.

BIOS 1102
-Ai overclock tune = manual
-OC mem lev up= auto
-cpu ratio set= 9.0
-FSB frecv= 400
-pci frecv= 105

-ddram frecv = ddr1066mhz
-ddram command rate = 2t
-ddram timing control= manual
-cash# latency = 5
-ras# to cas# latency =5
-ras# precharge = 5
-ras# active time=15
-ras# to ras# delay = auto
-row refresh cycle time = auto
-write ricovery time = auto
-read to precharge time = auto
-read to write delay (s/d)= auto
-write to read delay (s)= auto
-write to read delay (d)= auto
-read to read delay (s)= auto
-read to read delay(d)= auto
-write to write delay (s)= auto
-write to write delay (d)= auto
-ddram static read control = disable
-dram dynamic write control= disable
-Ai clock twister = light
-Ai transaction booster = disable
-relax level=0

-Cpu voltage 1.55625v (CPU-Z read 1.536)
-cpu ppl voltage = 1.60v
-north bridge voltage= 1.51v
-ddram voltage = 2.12v
-Fsb termination voltage= 1.53v
-south bridge = AUTO
-Loadline calibration = enable
-Cpu gtl reference= x63
-north bridge gtl reference = x67
-ddr3 chanel A+B REF voltage = auto
-ddr3 controller REF voltage = ddr3_REF
-sb 1.5 voltage = auto

offer someone ?

Det dram hang is a result of wrong TRD settings.
First get everything off auto, set values manually.
Your FSBT is way to high imo

[TAOTAO161]

ok, i have the BIOS seting here,
but i dont now what to put in every one.

By TAOTAO

this is my SPD

By TAOTAO

and this is what i think to set in the BIOS, but what a about the others setting.

By TAOTAO

[Grnfinger]

ok, i have the BIOS seting here,
but i dont now what to put in every one.

Here is what I would suggest to you


Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1066
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55 ( this is an important setting for 4GB's)
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Disabled
Relax level: 0 ( try 1 if you get a det dram hang)

CPU Voltage : w/e your cpu needs
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.60
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

[scurvy]

First, I'd like to thank everyone who has contributed to this thread so far. The Maximus Formula is my first attempt at really overclocking a motherboard, and your insight and experience has proven invaluable. Thank you.

The rig (as pertinent to overclocking):
E3110 (Xeon E8400 equivalent)
4GB Corsair Dominator DDR2 1066 (4x1GB DIMMs)
Maximus Formula 1201 BIOS
Liquid cooling via Koolance PC3-724 w/CPU-330 & CHC-122 blocks
WD Raptor 150GB 10K RPM (boot drive)
4 x WD 250GB 7500 RPM RAID 10 array (programs and scratch space)

Environment: Non-airconditioned San Francisco (about 24 celsius room temp)

I'm able to get 4.275 GHz with the following setup. I can get higher clocks, but this is very stable for me:

Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 475
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 105
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1141
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Disabled
Relax level: 1

CPU Voltage : 1.45
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.60
North Bridge Voltage : 1.55
DRAM Voltage : 2.16
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.38
South Bridge Voltage : 1.1
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

Anything look terribly off here? Any suggestions on where to go (up or down) for these speeds? This is orthos small, blended, large, and FutureMark 3D06 stable.

Two weird things I saw during testing:

1) CPU temps drop super quickly the second the stress test stops. Is this normal? I'd think that some heat would linger around, but the temps go from 65 to 37 C rapidly.

2) I use the onboard RAID controller for my RAID 10 set. I found that the RAID group would go wonky (and start wanting to rebuild) unless I OC'd the board and gave the SB 1.1V. SB worked fine at a normal 1.05V at stock speeds, but demanded more when OC'd. This normal?

[TAOTAO161]

Here is what I would suggest to you


Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1066
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55 ( this is an important setting for 4GB's)
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Disabled
Relax level: 0 ( try 1 if you get a det dram hang)

CPU Voltage : w/e your cpu needs
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.60
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

on the SPD is 71, but if i put it on 55, the memory failed in the prime95 test.

[Grnfinger]

on the SPD is 71, but if i put it on 55, the memory failed in the prime95 test.

set it higher then 60-70 or select AUTO, my kit needs 55 so thats the value I enter'd for the template

[TAOTAO161]

ok, you can tell me please why this timing, is so important to 4GB kit ?

[cadaveca]

ok, you can tell me please why this timing, is so important to 4GB kit ?

Ram IC is adressed by row, or column. As 4GB kit IC's are physically bigger, they have more rows and columns. this means it takes a bit longer to refresh the data within the IC.

[RCG_Bex]

Hey guys, I've got my E6750 running comfortably at 4ghz (stress tested with prime, 3dmark06 looped etc). I did try for a wee bit higher but I think i'm lacking something. 4.1ghz and 4.2ghz both boot but 4.2GHz blue screens after everything finishes loading whilst 4.1ghz is solid until you play games or test in after 3hrs as it random restarts.

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 500 (510, 515 and 525 have been attempted)
FSB Strap to North Bridge : Auto
PCI-E Frequency: 100

DRAM Frequency: Auto
DRAM Command Rate : Auto
DRAM Timing Control: Auto

CPU Voltage : 1.5875v (1.6 has been tried)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.47
DRAM Voltage : 2.14
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.42
South Bridge Voltage : 1.075
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.55

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

I'm using Adata Extreme DDR2 1200 - none of my overclocks seem to like it very much if I tell it to run at a certain speed but it's happy on auto

Any ideas? I think it's still got some kick left to take it further. Will lap the bugger if need be!

~Bex

[iTravis]

What the Transaction booster do again? Whenever I set to Disable or Enable my system won't boot, my only option is set to Auto, is that normal?

[Jazz]

Does anyone know if the Ramapage conversion can be done to the P5E Deluxe? Are their any advantages?

[zlojack]

What the Transaction booster do again? Whenever I set to Disable or Enable my system won't boot, my only option is set to Auto, is that normal?

It sets the tRD (performance level).

I think Enabled (0) is tRD=7

So Enabled (1) is tRD=6 and disabled (0) is tRD=8

(please correct me if I'm wrong guys, I'm doing this from memory)

[NBK]

Hi

I want to try to run my E8400@4.0GHz 24/7 on my Maximus Formula BIOS update 1102...

Thanks
NBK

[faithful10]

Hi

I am running 533 on the FSB 100 % stable with current setting (have not potsted all, since rest are running auto)
I use the rampage bios 0403.

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 7,5
FSB Frequency : 533
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: Auto
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15


DRAM Static Read Control: Auto
Ai Clock Twister : Auto
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [10]

CPU Voltage : 1.45
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51
DRAM Voltage : 2.10
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.42
South Bridge Voltage : 1.125
Loadline Calibration : Disabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

My e8400 is a batch q0808xxx.. so it needs 1,4 volt for 100 % stable 4 ghz. Since i am running without loadline calibration i get 1,4 volt under load whit the v-core i use in bios.

But very happy with the system and being able to run 533 mhz on x38 chipset. ram running 1:1 at 1066 mhz.

[Grnfinger]

Hi

I am running 533 on the FSB 100 % stable with current setting (have not potsted all, since rest are running auto)
I use the rampage bios 0403.

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 7,5
FSB Frequency : 533
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: Auto
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15


DRAM Static Read Control: Auto
Ai Clock Twister : Auto
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [10]

CPU Voltage : 1.45
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51
DRAM Voltage : 2.10
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.42
South Bridge Voltage : 1.125
Loadline Calibration : Disabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

My e8400 is a batch q0808xxx.. so it needs 1,4 volt for 100 % stable 4 ghz. Since i am running without loadline calibration i get 1,4 volt under load whit the v-core i use in bios.

But very happy with the system and being able to run 533 mhz on x38 chipset. ram running 1:1 at 1066 mhz.

1066MHz @ PL10?
That must run like a dog, no reason to run such a high pl

[faithful10]

[QUOTE=Grnfinger;3167579]1066MHz @ PL10?
That must run like a dog, no reason to run PL 10

I am running some cheap pc 8500 ram, and if i run with lower pl i won't post. But ty statement to say that it must run like a dog just because of that. Still with the high freq. on ram and so it runs very fast.

I got better results in many test programs than other.

[zlojack]

What's your bandwidth/latency like in Everest? PL10 is pretty high.

[Grnfinger]

[QUOTE=faithful10;3167621]

1066MHz @ PL10?
That must run like a dog, no reason to run PL 10

I am running some cheap pc 8500 ram, and if i run with lower pl i won't post. But ty statement to say that it must run like a dog just because of that. Still with the high freq. on ram and so it runs very fast.

I got better results in many test programs than other.

No need to get all bent out of shape, PL10 is very excessive but if your happy with it then what others say should not bother you.
I would also be interested in seeing a bandwidth bench

[jorgito05]

I ran crisys benchmark, got avarage 24fps.
This should be better than that! I have two 2900xt's running crossfire enabled, I checked sais crossfire enabled yes, but the catalist hardware showes this:

This sais one card is disabled? on, my computer/device manager both adapters are enabled? also on the ATI override is unlocked, and I can see the second card yet the image above sais one card is disabled?

[faithful10]

Hi again.

Sry if i sounded mad in my reply. Nothing to do with any here. Got a really sad rl news today, so i guess i was a little out of balance.

Here is screenshot of everest at 533 with pl 10

I run with 4 sticks of cheap kingston pc8500 1 giga stick each and it wont post if i go lower on pl.

[Grnfinger]

Hi again.

Sry if i sounded mad in my reply. Nothing to do with any here. Got a really sad rl news today, so i guess i was a little out of balance.

Here is screenshot of everest at 533 with pl 10

I run with 4 sticks of cheap kingston pc8500 1 giga stick each and it wont post if i go lower on pl.

Thats actually not bad at all, latency is alittle high but besides that those Kingston dimms seem to be looking good

[zlojack]

I get a latency of 51.8 with my PL at 7 and FSB of 467, so with FSB of 533 and PL at 10, that isn't bad at all.

I need to tweak a bit more and see if I can tighten up the latency a bit more (or I guess I could up the FSB and see if I can get some more bandwidth at the same latency)

[faithful10]

Thanks for replyes. maybe i can also tweak ram settings more. only
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15

Which is not on auto, so maybe a can take some settings lower by manual choosing them. The latency is also normally around 54,7-54,8. I think it got 55 because i had just started the system.

Will try some manyel settings when i got more time, and it is these sticks i use 2*2 sets of: http://www.pc-lager.dk/vare-oversigt...r=16306&type=0

#zlojack: if not your e8400 should have some problems with high fsb i think you can go around the 533 also without probz. I went from 501 to 533 afte ri got the board flashed to rampage with bios 0403

[OVERK|LL]

It's funny that the new Rampage BIOS is STILL not showing up on ASUS's FTP site!

[Grnfinger]

Yes Zlojack buddy that chip loves high FSB, you could drop the multi .5 and run slightly higher FSB and see how that performs for you, I have had the chip as high as 545 so there is not much wall there for you to incounter.
Off topic, rant/on ...if Asus dosent pull there head out of there ass soon I'm going to have a fit, they have had the card since Monday and its still NOT in there system, the whole process is suppose to take 10 days 5 is up and its still not in the system, all I want is my FREAKING card, there rant/off I feel better now lol