"ASUS P5Q Deluxe discussion".

[SirKeldon]

What "mem strap" issues

Can exp in issues ?

Yes, i explained it on some other posts, as here, here and also here

Btw, finally my NB Voltage is upped two notches (1.18V BIOS - 1.205V Measured) and one at FSB (1.32V BIOS - 1.24V Measured) to make F@H stable with SMP and GPU at the same time, also i had to set the CPU GTL Ref to 0.61x to avoid sudden reboots

I can explain further if you need it Thank you

[OC_Newbee]

Sorry 1101 Beta Bios there

ASUS P5Q-E 1101 Beta Bios
[1101]
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Thank you sir!

[ThugsRook]

note:

nbs400 no longer works (at all) using beta bios 1004 (P5Q)

[NBF]

I'm testing DLX BIOS 1102 today, its looking very good, rock solid!

Temp sensors are working fine now.

My previous OC profiles wouldn't boot with 1102, so be sure to start OCing from defaults and manually enter values.

For those that are very cautious about beta bioses, I would say that this one is worth.

[yenclas]

Hello

I have a problem.

I would like to do 500x8 and 1:1. If I put PL at 10 i need 1,4v at NB.

I have a 2x2Gb DDR2 1000 Kit (GSKILL PI).

Also, I need to set manually AI Clock Twister to Lighter, Otherwise it's unstable.

Is this problem my memory or my motheboard ?

AI Overclock tuner: Manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 8
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333
FSB Frequency: 500
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: 1002Mhz
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: Manual

1st Information :

CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 4
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: AUTO
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO

2nd Information :

READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to READ Delay (D): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (S): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (D): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): AUTO

3rd Information :

WRITE to PRE Delay: AUTO
READ to PRE Delay: AUTO
PRE to PRE Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to REF Delay: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: Disabled
MEM. OC Charger: Enabled
AI Clock Twister: Lighter
AI Transaction Booster: Manual
Common Performance Level [10]
Pull-In of CHA PH1: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH2: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH3: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH4: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH1: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH2: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH3: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH4: DISABLED

CPU Voltage: 1.3875
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): AUTO
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.58
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.32
DRAM Voltage: 2.00
NB Voltage: 1.40
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: 1.20
PCIE SATA Voltage: 1.50

Load Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : Auto
NB Clock Skew : Auto

[intarweb]

Hi guys

So, I started out with a P5Q-E, and tweaked it a lot trying to get Prime95 stable, but just couldn't seem to get there -_-. On top of that it seemed like it didn't like my 4x1GB arrangement on ram.

So, I decided to get a P5Q Deluxe to replace it. Seems like a good board; RAM runs a lot cooler for whatever reason, and Prime95 seems happy.

Anyhow, I'm having a problem with it in which I can't entirely remember if the P5Q-E did the same thing...

When I play a game, such as a mod for HL2, if I get a bunch of sounds going at once, it seems to overwhelm the on-board sound and it just gets progressively cracklier until it fades out to silence, and then it fades back in once the sounds die down. I'm not entirely sure what to do about this

I did have some other problems, but they seem to have departed after I reformatted, which included the sound *not* coming back after it crackled out, my video card giving me a Code 10 (device cannot start), and in gaming I'd get these temporary hangs for about 20 seconds. I haven't seen that crop up *yet*, but I do wonder about it.

So, I'm wondering if this is a driver problem, or a problem with this particular P5Q-D such that I should exchange it for a new one...

Running 0704 if that makes a difference. I could try some other bios if you guys want, but I don't entirely understand the interaction there so I haven't tried every bios out there.

[marcin255]

DI

[Nano74]

Level 10, NB: 1,36, SB 1.20

[truehighroller]

When are they going to fix the 1:1 memory PL timings?

[RAID]

P5Q-E owners:

is anyone else experiencing a 500 FSB wall with this board? 499 FSB works fine but anything more is unstable. i've tried both the qx9770 and e8400 with no luck. if you're stable over 500 fsb, could you please share your settings with me? thanks in advance

[MonsterDK]

HELP NEEDED PLEASE

Just had a out of the blue reboot.

On booting back up Windows XP loaded then there is a small pause while the DVDRW etc is read and such then the final parts to loading the OS usually continue to load - but it reboots and ends up in a cycle.

I've had to turn off PC at the PSU switch then back on.. now it will boot ok into the OS.

I've checked event viewer and I can't see anything that is revealing anything.

Anyone have any suggestions if this could be hardware related or OS?

Will my PSU be ok for the hardware below?

Mobo: Asus P5Q Del (latest bios)
PSU: Corsair 620w
Q6600 (G0)
4GB Crucial Ballistix
ATI Radeon 3780 GC
2 x 1TB WD HDD
1 x 1TB Samsung spinpoint
1 x 500gb WD (Vista OS)
2 x 160GB WD in Raid0 (Win XP Pro 64 OS)
3 x scyte 120mm case fan
1 x 120mm fan on CPU cooler
2 x 80mm case fans
1 large side fan (with thermaltake case)
2 x DVDRW drives


AI Overclock tuner: Manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 9
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333
FSB Frequency: 333
PCI-E Frequency: 101
DRAM Frequency: 1066Mhz
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: Manual

1st Information :

CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 55
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO

2nd Information :

READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to READ Delay (D): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (S): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (D): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): AUTO

3rd Information :

WRITE to PRE Delay: AUTO
READ to PRE Delay: AUTO
PRE to PRE Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to REF Delay: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: Auto
MEM. OC Charger: Auto
AI Clock Twister: Auto
AI Transaction Booster: Manual
Common Performance Level [8]
Pull-In of CHA PH1: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH2: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH3: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH4: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH1: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH2: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH3: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH4: DISABLED

CPU Voltage: 1.26875
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): 0.630
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): 0.670
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.58
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.28
DRAM Voltage: 2.12
NB Voltage: 1.24
NB GTL Reference: 0.630
SBridge Voltage: Auto
PCIE SATA Voltage: Auto

Load Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : Normal
NB Clock Skew : Normal

All CPU extras Disabled.

Any help appreciated.

[cadaveca]

Blew out 1102 on earlier stable settings. thank god for that back-up bios chip.

[truehighroller]

eWWW did you try loading your old profile or try falshing it while overclocked?

[cadaveca]

Neither, I just tried turning it on.

[Dalten]

Anyone else having some problems with the onboard audio? Assassins Creed has that problem where I can't hear any of the voice overs unless I turn down audio accelleration 1 notch in dxdiag. I had the exact same problem on my old s939 board but a driver update fixed it.

Anyone else running into this and found a way to fix it without turning down the audio acceleration features?

[RejZoR]

Anyone else noticed QFan options doesn't do anything? Or is there anything special with Noiseblocker BlackSilent XL2 fans that i'm not aware of?? No matter what i do (QFan Silent/Standard/Turbo/Disabled) it always spins at 1400 rpm. Ugh... I'm using BIOS 0803. And same applies to all other fan pins. I had to use connector adapter with resistor on it to slow down that additional chipset fan...

[JHS]

I knocked off 2miliseconds off my memory timings with the 1102. I have no problems with it right now. I tested it occt stable last night @ 480 x 8 3.833GHz. I don't think prime95 blend likes my vista 64 because I corrupted my last OS install trying to get it stable but yet the small ffts were 100% stable forever. I say 1102.

U used prime64v256, right? Never had problems with it on my vista x64

Then again I'm not responsible if it messes your or anyone elses system


EDIT: Hmm. actually I have not used its blend test that much. Too hangoverish. My brains not working properly
Going to test blend right now and see what happens xD

[lowdog]

I knocked off 2miliseconds off my memory timings with the 1102. I have no problems with it right now. I tested it occt stable last night @ 480 x 8 3.833GHz. I don't think prime95 blend likes my vista 64 because I corrupted my last OS install trying to get it stable but yet the small ffts were 100% stable forever. I say 1102.

Forever eh?


Stability is just that.......stable!

Small FFT's means jack imho regardless of what people say. I've seen overclocks pass Small FFT's for hours and hours on end but then fail without doubt when running Large FFT's.

Personally I'll always run Large FFT's to test stability, if it passes Large then I'm satisfied.

An oc may seem fine because it passes Prime Small FFT's...........whether it will pass Large FFT's is another thing though. I'm not alone in this understanding that Large FFT's causes more stress on the overclock than Small, and there are quite a few others around that will test stability using Prime Large FFT's specifically for this reason.

[Leeghoofd]

HELP NEEDED PLEASE


1st Information :


CPU Voltage: 1.26875 --> you prolly need more Vcore what VID is this CPU
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): AUTO
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.58
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.28
DRAM Voltage: 2.12 --> lower to 2.0
NB Voltage: 1.24
NB GTL Reference: 0.630 --> AUTO
SBridge Voltage: Auto
PCIE SATA Voltage: Auto

Load Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : AUTO
NB Clock Skew : AUTO

Do a memtest in windows via OCCT ram test or co... could be one of your dimms is flakey... also you gave them real volts in reality, were you aware of that ? if Ram is okay, I would up Vcore to 1.35 and disable Loadline calibration...

Anyone else noticed QFan options doesn't do anything? Or is there anything special with Noiseblocker BlackSilent XL2 fans that i'm not aware of?? No matter what i do (QFan Silent/Standard/Turbo/Disabled) it always spins at 1400 rpm. Ugh... I'm using BIOS 0803. And same applies to all other fan pins. I had to use connector adapter with resistor on it to slow down that additional chipset fan...

I tested the Qfan option for the chassis fans with 1001 and 1102 and it works fine.... tested fans are PAPST GL fan, Zalman 8700 CPU fan, Scythe Flex 1200,... could be that your fans cannot be regulated by the Qfan option... or you need to update to a later bios...

Forever eh?

Small FFT's means jack imho regardless of what people say. I've seen overclocks pass Small FFT's for hours and hours on end but then fail without doubt when running Large FFT's.

Small FFT's only used for CPU test is okay mate... ram and NB require blend or large pass... though I had OC's fail on large yet had no sign of instability whatsoever in gaming, folding,... no test is bulletproof... you can pass large and run ya first 3dmark and crash...

Stability is like you say : stable at all times... you will need to run multiple programs and co ( superpi, 3d benches, OCCT, and co to test stability) and then daily usage is the best way to see if it's stable for the user and not some test program....

People are abit obsessed by getting the lowest voltage in prime while yet that small extra increment can make a world of difference...

[RejZoR]

Well, BlackSilent XL2 has the tacho line so it should work. I've tried some later BIOS 10xx but it just froze when it should reboot after 5 seconds and when i exit BIOS settings it freezes too. So it's a no go for me. Not sure (yet) why that happens...

Good way to test stability is to run latest real-time strategy games, especially the ones that have masses of units to command.
Strategy games really stress everything from CPU, memory, graphic card and even disk and chipset.

Second good stress test with real conditions are timedemos in Crysis. Heavy graphics and CPU usage really puts some serious load on to system.
Usually if it passes these two it will most probably pass anything.

[TI66ER]

Hi guys,

I just got my p5q-e in to replace my trusty old p5k-prem.I set my discs up in raid 0 and it works fine on this board they are samsung sp2504c's.Whats the best bios for this board please? it loaded with 0610(i think now)

I pushed it up to 400fsb,which is my normal oc for my chip which is 3.2ghz/1.35vcore/1066mem.i will give it a couple of days and try it higher,my p5k-prem managed 500x8 with my chip.The vcore was 1.5625v for that.

I am pretty impressed upto now,it seems faster then the prem at the same clock speed.

Is there a specific thread for the p5q-e? also how does the duel bios thing work? can you switch to the second one in case of a problem or is it automatic? and if you flash a newer bios and want to go back to an older one,is it easier than wth the prem?

thanks.

[petekol]

I try to push q9450 on P5Q (0703 BIOS) and see that the prime is only stable if I set Vcore high.

PLL, VTT do not influence stability at all that I want on particular FSB
I tried PLL 1.52-1.6 and VTT 1.22-1.38

The wall I reach is 470FSB on Vcore=1.4 LLC=on (the windows loads on 485, but prime is not stabile)
Some other stable FSBs:
440 on Vcore=1.3 LLC=on
450 on Vcore=1.36 LLC=on
460 on Vcore=1.38 LLC=on

What can I do to go above 470????? I think Vcore=1.4 is already too high ……

I have 1066 mem so it is not a show stopper

CPU Ratio Setting: 8
FSB Frequency: 470
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: 1:1

CPU Voltage: 1.4
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.58
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.28
DRAM Voltage: 1.92
NB Voltage: 1.26
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: 1.2
PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO

Load Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : Normal
NB Clock Skew : Normal

[-n7-]

I knocked off 2miliseconds off my memory timings with the 1102. I have no problems with it right now. I tested it occt stable last night @ 480 x 8 3.833GHz. I don't think prime95 blend likes my vista 64 because I corrupted my last OS install trying to get it stable but yet the small ffts were 100% stable forever. I say 1102.

Uh...just in case you don't already realize this, sounds like your RAM isn't too stable.
If blend if causing your OS to corrupt, well yeah...

[Leeghoofd]

I try to push q9450 on P5Q (0703 BIOS) and see that the prime is only stable if I set Vcore high.

The wall I reach is 470FSB on Vcore=1.4 LLC=on (the windows loads on 485, but prime is not stabile)
Some other stable FSBs:
440 on Vcore=1.3 LLC=on
450 on Vcore=1.36 LLC=on
460 on Vcore=1.38 LLC=on

What can I do to go above 470????? I think Vcore=1.4 is already too high...

Only thing I see is to mess with the GTL voltages, but think you gotta get another CPU that needs less volts... most CPU's need a whole lotta extra volts over a certain speed for a few hundred Mhz more... if you need already 1.36 at 3.6ghz I think it's better to leave it at that speed then...and call it a day...

[ebh]

I got the new bios for the p5q-e and the voltage damper option works (in the old bios I didn't notice I had it). It even raises the vcore a bit under load (don't know how safe this is, but it's still lower than what I set in bios).

Does anyone know how can I start the computer with a usb flash drive stuck in, without the mb trying to boot from it (I get an error and I have to restart without the "stick" in)?