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    Simple, OC the CPU, then you OC the ram
    The Z7S currently only offers a 1:1 mem to FSB divider, so the only way to get your FBDimms up to speed is running the CPUs overclocked. Which you should do in any case
    With a 99,9% probability a pair of E5420's will run FSB400 fine with all voltages set to minimum (you can't adjust Vcore anyways).
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    in the cpu configuration does the cpu vid show up there also there are alot of stuff hidden in the bios




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    Oh , please try to unlock some features

    Cpu VID (and L3 cache ) are not visible in the bios under 'cpu configuration'.
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    i am back finally..and almost all my parts are here.

    soo before i do anything stupid.

    can I lap my two E5430s?
    I remember reading somewhere only some CPUs are lap-able due to something i didn't remember. LOL
    just want to make sure, don't want to throw $1000 dollars worth of CPU away.

    Anyways, i mentioned this before but do the Western Digital VelociRaptor WD3000GLFS work with the Asus Z7S?
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    Quote Originally Posted by [XC] Jaco View Post
    Oh , please try to unlock some features

    Cpu VID (and L3 cache ) are not visible in the bios under 'cpu configuration'.
    Maybe because there is no such thing as a L3 cache on this platform?
    But I agree, please do try to unlock a Vcore setting, we know it must be there cause as soon as you put in a QX it does show the Vcore

    @dan: what u wanna lap your CPUs for? Are the heatspreaders that crummy? Usually lapping is reserved to get the last mhz out of a desktop PC, I don't think you need to really. But if you feel that you should, go ahead. The IHS is all copper, it would take a lot of lapping to cut through to the cores

    I will try the VR on my Z7S later/tomorrow, promise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jcool View Post
    Maybe because there is no such thing as a L3 cache on this platform?
    But I agree, please do try to unlock a Vcore setting, we know it must be there cause as soon as you put in a QX it does show the Vcore

    @dan: what u wanna lap your CPUs for? Are the heatspreaders that crummy? Usually lapping is reserved to get the last mhz out of a desktop PC, I don't think you need to really. But if you feel that you should, go ahead. The IHS is all copper, it would take a lot of lapping to cut through to the cores

    I will try the VR on my Z7S later/tomorrow, promise.
    naw i am pretty sure my water block and everything will cool nicely, but i just thought lappying will really help temps.
    and also to be xtreme. whahaha

    but i also dun wanna ruin my 1000 dollar cpus lol

    jcool: thanks for the effort! ><
    Last edited by milkmandan; 07-17-2008 at 01:53 PM.
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    Ok, Velociraptor works fine on the Z7S. Is recognized by bios and Windows, HDTach shows even better performance than on my DFI X38. 6,8ms random access, 109MB/s average read as opposed to 7,0ms/106mb on the DFI.
    Tested with current 0302 bios
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    chipset settings are hidden







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    2x opteron 8224 @ 3.8ghz
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    vga= 8800gt
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    Can you unhide them?
    I'd like to see mem divider adjustment as well as timings etc.
    Where can I get that program you're using anyway?
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    i can make a bios with vcore 1step higher but i dont have the board to test it



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    asus L1N64-ws or /b depending on bios chip
    4x1gig 8500 gkill bpk
    2x opteron 8224 @ 3.8ghz
    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=236
    vga= 8800gt
    winxp pro

    custom chiller -31 water
    2x dtek fuzions
    bix3-with x3panaflo hi output
    antec 850 quattro

    heat under msimax abitmax and dfimax

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    no problem , I'll test your modded bios.

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    Me too
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    If that mod works, DAMN!
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    I finally got my rig working - running linux. The setup is still work in progress.
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    here it is the only thing i did was up the vcore 1 level just to see if it actually changes anything

    http://www.esnips.com/doc/368e6df0-b...6c9c/Z7SWS0302
    Amd Nvidia/Ati -3dmark06 scorebord revisted

    asus L1N64-ws or /b depending on bios chip
    4x1gig 8500 gkill bpk
    2x opteron 8224 @ 3.8ghz
    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=236
    vga= 8800gt
    winxp pro

    custom chiller -31 water
    2x dtek fuzions
    bix3-with x3panaflo hi output
    antec 850 quattro

    heat under msimax abitmax and dfimax

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    heres where to get the software and read up good to

    http://www.rebelshavenforum.com/sis-...;f=52;t=000012
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    asus L1N64-ws or /b depending on bios chip
    4x1gig 8500 gkill bpk
    2x opteron 8224 @ 3.8ghz
    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=236
    vga= 8800gt
    winxp pro

    custom chiller -31 water
    2x dtek fuzions
    bix3-with x3panaflo hi output
    antec 850 quattro

    heat under msimax abitmax and dfimax

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    also i forgot in that link is software to simulate the bios very useful
    Amd Nvidia/Ati -3dmark06 scorebord revisted

    asus L1N64-ws or /b depending on bios chip
    4x1gig 8500 gkill bpk
    2x opteron 8224 @ 3.8ghz
    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=236
    vga= 8800gt
    winxp pro

    custom chiller -31 water
    2x dtek fuzions
    bix3-with x3panaflo hi output
    antec 850 quattro

    heat under msimax abitmax and dfimax

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    Msimax ,

    Just tried to flash your modded bios. It gives me 'boot block in file is not valid'

    It's not possible to flash with Asus EZ flash (built-in tool in bios)

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    you want to try it on your end just download amibcp 3.13 and just adjust the cpu vid in the cpu section or use can try again using this

    http://support.asus.com/download/dow...model=Z7S%20WS
    Amd Nvidia/Ati -3dmark06 scorebord revisted

    asus L1N64-ws or /b depending on bios chip
    4x1gig 8500 gkill bpk
    2x opteron 8224 @ 3.8ghz
    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=236
    vga= 8800gt
    winxp pro

    custom chiller -31 water
    2x dtek fuzions
    bix3-with x3panaflo hi output
    antec 850 quattro

    heat under msimax abitmax and dfimax

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcool View Post
    Ok, Velociraptor works fine on the Z7S. Is recognized by bios and Windows, HDTach shows even better performance than on my DFI X38. 6,8ms random access, 109MB/s average read as opposed to 7,0ms/106mb on the DFI.
    Tested with current 0302 bios
    Jcool!
    Thanks so much!

    Be super awesome if this BIOS mod works flawlessly ><

    Can't wait to get my rig together.
    Last edited by milkmandan; 07-17-2008 at 09:32 PM.
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    I popped open the 302 bios and CPU vid looks open to me.. just cant modify it (not sure if you can see it in bios either, havent fired my board up yet). Maybe "Access/Use" needs to be changed?

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    hi

    Quote Originally Posted by jcool View Post
    Maybe because there is no such thing as a L3 cache on this platform?
    But I agree, please do try to unlock a Vcore setting, we know it must be there cause as soon as you put in a QX it does show the Vcore

    @dan: what u wanna lap your CPUs for? Are the heatspreaders that crummy? Usually lapping is reserved to get the last mhz out of a desktop PC, I don't think you need to really. But if you feel that you should, go ahead. The IHS is all copper, it would take a lot of lapping to cut through to the cores

    I will try the VR on my Z7S later/tomorrow, promise.

    hi, i doing 3d rendering just want to try how fast it can go, hmmmm i really still dont understand about how to oc it , i think i dont really need it in this moment, so far i happy with my new pc speed, it already help me alot in my 3d work.

    thank.

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    Waterclocking Z7S WS?

    Has anyone found waterblocks which work with the 3(?) different chips on the board? Any any for the voltage regulators etc.?

    Thanks in advance,

    Tom

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    It says there on the rebelshaven website:

    Unfortunately, modern BIOS become corrupt when saved with AMIBCP. But, just because AMIBCP is corrupting the BIOS when saved, it turns out the 1B and 21 modules are OK. I tried moving a Item, then extracting the 1B module, and replacing it into an un-edited BIOS using MMTool 3.19 Mod. The BIOS POSTs, and the Item is now moved into the new location and works just fine.....
    Might be the explanation why it won't flash the bios.
    I'd like to try using pflash or something, but I really don't want to corrupt my bios. Any ideas?
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    Same here .

    I can change the VID value to "02" but i'm not sure what this does exactly.

    I could use a forced flash but i'm afraid I'll just corrupt the bios.

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