ASUS Striker II Extreme

[skinnee]

was -it OEM CPU - RMA to Intel FTW - very fast (within a week)

Retail Box, I am going to order another and send this dead one to Intel.

I have been reading a lot about WC and from what I have read, distilled water and zerex is FTW. If you can't get zerex then get hydrx.

That was the old way, the Zerex and Hydrx only give a little corrosion protection, thats all they do. The best way to run a loop now (through lots of testing) is with distilled water and biocide (Petra's PT_nuke). Over the last year and a half there has been tons and tons of testing, the stickies in the LC section are horribly out of date.

so Galvanic corrosion happens no matter if you use distilled water, coolants, anticorrosion liquids etc etc??? There is no "safe" combination?

Galvanic Corrosion happens no matter what when you run mixed metal loops, ie: Aluminium and Copper in a loop. If you run an all copper loop, no problem. It all has to do with the metals in the loop.

Ok so if I decide to use just Feser UV Blue Coolant and clean my loop every 3 months, Im risk free?

No, but you are lengthing the life of your loop by flushing and getting fresh coolant in the loop often. This won't prevent it, but will extend the life of your loop and blocks.

With everything you told me, Im concluding that everybody who has water cooling should have galvanic corrosion happening inside their loops, am I wrong?

Only the loops with mixed metals (Aluminum in the loop mostly), Copper, brass, nickel and silver can all exist in one loop and be fine. Aluminium is the catalyst (improper word usage I know) to galvanic corrosion.

[slim142]

Ok Skinnee, Tyke and everybody else here who supported the idea to remove the heatsink. You guys won

I guess running with that fusion block will bring more problems than I will be able to tolerate so I will just get Type 4 for mosfets, Enzotech for SB and EK block for NB. I will get rid of that heatsink city to avoid corrosion problems. With a $200 rad I dont think I would be strong enough to see if full of galvanic corrosion. Wow, Prometheus Project is went from $400 to almost $800

[skinnee]

Rather than flood this topic with more WC stuff...Slim, send me a PM with your parts list, I'll help you scale back the funds while still keeping performance the highest priority!

[slim142]

PM sent
Lets keep the WC stuff on PM

Now back on topic

[DaMulta]

Rather than flood this topic with more WC stuff...Slim, send me a PM with your parts list, I'll help you scale back the funds while still keeping performance the highest priority!

This is a per-set up motherboard for watercooling. I don't really see it off topic for this thread.

[slim142]

Well this thread is almost dead anyways. Im not going to say anything.

[tekjunkie]

LOL @ the spider pig.. nice find

[Tyke]

Ok Skinnee, Tyke and everybody else here who supported the idea to remove the heatsink. You guys won

I guess running with that fusion block will bring more problems than I will be able to tolerate so I will just get Type 4 for mosfets, Enzotech for SB and EK block for NB. I will get rid of that heatsink city to avoid corrosion problems. With a $200 rad I dont think I would be strong enough to see if full of galvanic corrosion. Wow, Prometheus Project is went from $400 to almost $800

[RAID]

is the bandwidth drop off over 475FSB only limited to the s2e or is it with all 790i boards?

[memory]

The bandwidth drop is due to the chipset

[Tyke]

This is a per-set up motherboard for watercooling. I don't really see it off topic for this thread.

I agree. As long as WC is specific to this board it is on topic. I have just ordered a third GTX 280 and will be playing about with a tri-sli watercooled setup this week!! I may have to revert to air cooling on the SB, I have ordered an Enzotech CNB-S1L and Antec spot fan just in case.

[skinnee]

I agree. As long as WC is specific to this board it is on topic.

Some peeps were not happy about the WC discussion, I'm a nub around here and didn't want to ruffle any feathers worse than I already had.

I have just ordered a third GTX 280 and will be playing about with a tri-sli watercooled setup this week!! I may have to revert to air cooling on the SB, I have ordered an Enzotech CNB-S1L and Antec spot fan just in case.

You'll have to go back to air on the SB for Tri-SLI... on the Enzotech, Was messing around with it before I got my Chipset loop running, you'll be very happy.

[Tyke]

You'll have to go back to air on the SB for Tri-SLI... on the Enzotech, Was messing around with it before I got my Chipset loop running, you'll be very happy.

Thanks for the info, a few questions. Am I right in assuming the Enzotech will fit the SB holes without modding? What are you running at the moment, SLi or tri-Sli? What about the Evercool for the SB was that any good?

[slim142]

is the bandwidth drop off over 475FSB only limited to the s2e or is it with all 790i boards?

The bandwidth drop is due to the chipset

Bandwidth drop happens when you go over 425Mhz FSB afaik. P1 & P2 fix this problem, but you would need to test stability again if you enable this two.

I agree. As long as WC is specific to this board it is on topic. I have just ordered a third GTX 280 and will be playing about with a tri-sli watercooled setup this week!! I may have to revert to air cooling on the SB, I have ordered an Enzotech CNB-S1L and Antec spot fan just in case.

Well, I never saw it as off topic anyways
Tyke, whats up with all this cards, you are going to end up needing a nuclear plant to power your pc!. Btw, if the Enzotech picture is right, it might work with the little fan on and Tri-SLI right?

Thanks for the info, a few questions. Am I right in assuming the Enzotech will fit the SB holes without modding? What are you running at the moment, SLi or tri-Sli? What about the Evercool for the SB was that any good?

It should fit no problems, I havent read about uncompatibility so far.

[Tyke]

Bandwidth drop happens when you go over 425Mhz FSB afaik. P1 & P2 fix this problem, but you would need to test stability again if you enable this two.



Well, I never saw it as off topic anyways
Tyke, whats up with all this cards, you are going to end up needing a nuclear plant to power your pc!. Btw, if the Enzotech picture is right, it might work with the little fan on and Tri-SLI right?



It should fit no problems, I havent read about uncompatibility so far.

I will try a fan on it and let you know the results. I was thinking of just the heatsink with an Antec spot fan .

[MikeMK]

Bandwidth drop happens when you go over 425Mhz FSB afaik. P1 & P2 fix this problem, but you would need to test stability again if you enable this two.

I can vouch for this. Running 445x9 and with p1 & p2 enabled get around 12000mb/s read bandwidth, with it disabled, about 9500mb/s. The problem is getting it stable. Thought I had it... 14hrs prime stable etc but the pc kept cutting out (no BSOD or screen freeze, just a reboot) at random times - i could play games for hrs, but occasionally it would do this. Spent the last few days testing and I think its when P1 & P2 are enabled.

Problem is im already running 1.6vnb, and 2.0v on the memory so I really cant push it up any higher (im assuming anything over 2.0v isnt too clever on DDR3 for 24/7 running). If i work something out i'll let ya no. I should also have the nb on water by the end of the week, not sure if this will help!

[slim142]

I will try a fan on it and let you know the results. I was thinking of just the heatsink with an Antec spot fan .

Please do

Problem is im already running 1.6vnb, and 2.0v on the memory so I really cant push it up any higher (im assuming anything over 2.0v isnt too clever on DDR3 for 24/7 running). If i work something out i'll let ya no. I should also have the nb on water by the end of the week, not sure if this will help!

Try with PLL 1.56 and VTT 1.30

[MikeMK]

well, my PLL is at 1.54v in bios, but according to everest it overvolts to 1.57v so i dont really wanna push any higher. Ive tried VTT up to 1.36v
(as read by everest)... no joy could be that my mem just doesnt like it! I have just got myself a DMM today, so im gonna see exactly what voltage is going through the board. Ive noticed quite a few descrepencies over the last couple of weeks.

[slim142]

I needed 1.58 to be stable (1.56 in BIOS)
Are you using 1T? Because 2T is what you are suppose to use with this board.

[Justifire]

Thanks for the info, a few questions. Am I right in assuming the Enzotech will fit the SB holes without modding? What are you running at the moment, SLi or tri-Sli? What about the Evercool for the SB was that any good?

Running an Evercool behind my tri-sli here.
Perfect solution for cooling the SB, where the standard rollercoaster couldn't fix the job (SB got 90+ `c and shut down the board)
What blocks are you getting on your cards? EK?
And if i'm right it should be possible to use a southbridge waterblock when using EK waterblocks for the cards.
On the other hand is WC'ing the SB a waste of money and flow in your setup.
Evercool will do the job

[MikeMK]

I needed 1.58 to be stable (1.56 in BIOS)
Are you using 1T? Because 2T is what you are suppose to use with this board.

ok, i might move the PLL up a notch then and see what it does. I def dont wanna go above 1.6v on it though. Yes i am running 1T, but largely because of reading through the anandtech tweak guide/review of the board where they seemed to think 1T was perfectly happy with 2gb up to around 1830mhz. im running 1780mhz so figured it should be ok. Will give 2T a shot after ive tried the PLL and see what happens.

Oh, and btw... thanks for the tips slim

[slim142]

ok, i might move the PLL up a notch then and see what it does. I def dont wanna go above 1.6v on it though. Yes i am running 1T, but largely because of reading through the anandtech tweak guide/review of the board where they seemed to think 1T was perfectly happy with 2gb up to around 1830mhz. im running 1780mhz so figured it should be ok. Will give 2T a shot after ive tried the PLL and see what happens.

Oh, and btw... thanks for the tips slim

Maybe PLL is not the responsable after all. 1T is a nightmare on nvidia chipsets. I dont remember when was the last time I saw an NVIDIA chipset with 1T stable so Im pretty sure that is whats causing your instability.
I also recall many saying in here that Anandtech had Hand picket sticks so maybe that had something to do with them been able to run at 1T?

NP btw

[slim142]

Hey Justifire

Could you post those pictures of your build again? (lost the page). I want to see the Type 2 how they look on the S2E. Will have to get those no matter what lol.

Also, shorter side goes to mosfets right?

[Tyke]

Running an Evercool behind my tri-sli here.
Perfect solution for cooling the SB, where the standard rollercoaster couldn't fix the job (SB got 90+ `c and shut down the board)
What blocks are you getting on your cards? EK?
And if i'm right it should be possible to use a southbridge waterblock when using EK waterblocks for the cards.
On the other hand is WC'ing the SB a waste of money and flow in your setup.
Evercool will do the job

Yes I have ordered EK blocks for the cards. I plan on trying the Enzotech cooler with an Antec spot fan first, and see how it goes. It looks as though the SB waterblock may be OK when I get the blocks on the cards, I will have to see but it will be tight!!

[Fusion2002]

Tyke what do you do? I want your job.... nice hardware cant wait to see some scores... I think you have the fastest setup in here.