The Maximus Formula Thread - Help/OCing/Guide/Rampage conversion

[shimmishim]

shim - i have ran the 8000 and 8500 single sided sets in my mobo and both booted fine without any issues.

but,, i didnt reset my settings, i think i was still on 2.0v or maybe 2.1,, but it definately was not 2.2v

USE THE WHITE RAM SLOTS

reset the bios totally, just wipe it clean,, then try and run them see what happens.


also in regards to your voltage measure points.

i have not seen anyone post much about this although this board has been out for a while so there is probably a post somewhere.

Awesome. Will give it a shot... again.

I've searched google for it but can't find the measuring point. It obviously exists since it's been measured. It would have been nice if the OP had marked the measuring points in the first post.

[eSp!s0]

Allright, I found minimum voltages for my 515x7 1:1 settings with 1102 now and here they are:

BIOS 1102
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : Auto
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
-Ratio CMOS Setting : 7
FSB Frequency : 515
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100

DRAM Frequency: 1030
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 5
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 15
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Auto
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate
Transaction Booster : Disabled
-Relax Level 1

CPU Voltage : 1.33750 1.320VCPU-z
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.31 1.33V Everest
DRAM Voltage : 1.90 1.94V Everest
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.20 1.22V Everest
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050 1.06V Everest
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : Auto

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt
Voltiminder LED : Disabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

E6750, 2x 2GB G.Skill GBPK (1066), Maximus Formula

[zlojack]

I put too much force and I opened the NB. The pictures show the upper piece of the die attached to the heat sink. It is weird that TIM used between the chip and die was dry and fragile. It was not making good contact with the NB chip. I applied some Artic Silver and put back the heat sink.

I just finished putting everything back in the case and the mobo can not post - I am getting a "CPU init" message on the LCD monitor.

Wow, you pulled off the NB IHS!!!

[Brama]

Wow, you pulled off the NB IHS!!!

And some piece of NB's silicon

[cadaveca]

Not silicon, but he crushed the substrate holding the silicon. That's one dead board. Should have used DIMM slots as fulcrum.

[dasc]

I used the Blue DIMM slot as Fulcrum and a piece of plastic from the cpu side. The heat sink was attached to the die so strong after more than 4 hours in the freezer.

I used real force with a screw-driver and a toothbrush from blue DIMM and I saw around 1/5 of the NB green pvc/pins detaching from the board. I thought the mobo will still work, but I was wrong. I wrapped the screwdriver around paper tower and I stick it between the green PVC and lower side the chip. I twisted the screwdriver and I saw some movement. I put some force on all sides the die came off attached to the heatsink.

I cleaned and reapplied the new TIM and put everything back, but the motherboard was already dead. When I start it up, it powers all the fans, but I only get "CPU INIT" on LCD and the lights on the ballistix tracers are not moving.

Do you think ASUS will send me a replacement?

Not silicon, but he crushed the substrate holding the silicon. That's one dead board. Should have used DIMM slots as fulcrum.

[zlojack]

Do you think ASUS will send me a replacement?

Doubtful, but it doesn't hurt to try. It's not working anyway.

[dasc]

Are they actually going to investigate like remove the heat sink and stuff? I bad thing is that I left 3 scratches on the green pvc.

Doubtful, but it doesn't hurt to try. It's not working anyway.

[OVERK|LL]

I used the Blue DIMM slot as Fulcrum and a piece of plastic from the cpu side. The heat sink was attached to the die so strong after more than 4 hours in the freezer.

I used real force with a screw-driver and a toothbrush from blue DIMM and I saw around 1/5 of the NB green pvc/pins detaching from the board. I thought the mobo will still work, but I was wrong. I wrapped the screwdriver around paper tower and I stick it between the green PVC and lower side the chip. I twisted the screwdriver and I saw some movement. I put some force on all sides the die came off attached to the heatsink.

I cleaned and reapplied the new TIM and put everything back, but the motherboard was already dead. When I start it up, it powers all the fans, but I only get "CPU INIT" on LCD and the lights on the ballistix tracers are not moving.

Do you think ASUS will send me a replacement?

I wouldn't blame them if they don't. They didn't send you a defective board, and it definitely didn't die a manufacturing-related death.

Good luck though!

[Grnfinger]

Ok.. I'm getting stable with the E8400 at 4.2GHz (9 hours Small FFTs)

I flashed back to 0308 and there is definitely a bandwidth improvement.

Both with 5-5-5-15-tRFC 60 - tRD 7 (Twister Moderate)

4300MHz 1147ram with Dram static enabled, twister strong, PL7

This is Maximus 1102 bios

[Hockster]

Do you think ASUS will send me a replacement?

I hope not. You broke it knowing full well what you were doing. Man up and eat it. making everyone else pay is lame.

[MonsterDK]

I was wondering who here has a Asus Maximus Formula and has managed to find their lowest Q6600 Vcore and PLL?

On a 3.6 OC

Water cooled. (including north)
Crucial Ballistix 2GB (2x1GB) DDR2 PC2-8500C5 1066MHz (air cooled)
Q6600

Can anyone advise me on anything better for settings?
I'm aiming for lower Voltages (where possible) and where also possible better performance without raising CPU FSB.

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 1066
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Auto
Ai Clock Twister : Auto
Transaction Booster : Auto

CPU Voltage : 1.3875
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.41
DRAM Voltage : 2.10
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.26
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED : Disabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled


USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Disabled

Can anyone please help me with the quoted above. I'll be very much greatful.

[iTravis]

You guys have any recommendations for a 2x2GB set that works fine with this board? It seems the OCing capability is limited due to 4x1GB sticks.

[dasc]

I thought you guys were on my side!?

Can anyone please help me with the quoted above. I'll be very much greatful.

[cadaveca]

We are, but you screwed it up. Not saying I've never been there, but I got a collection of dead parts to remind me to be cautious.


BTW, I was the one who originally meantioned freezing the board to remove the heatsink. It worked a treat for me. I noticed that my RMA board was frozen when I got it(was still winter here, board had condensation on it), and it came off with ease.

Now, today I had the chance to play with another board, and IT was much harder to remove than my first, but still it just popped right off.

Mind you both time, the board had not been run for very long, allowing the tim to set.

Mind you, in the end, my boards are SE's, not the regular boards, so that might have something to do with it...

[JKad]

I just dumped Vista SP1 and installed XP pro for the first time on my MF. I have an unknown device identified as "on Intel(R) ICH9R LPC Interface Controller - 2916". All of the add on devices are installed and working properly (unlike on Vista). I downloaded the Intel chipset install utility, the soundmax drivers, Intel matrix manager for my raid HDs, etc. I have not loaded the Asus drivers from the CD. This device has to be something on the motherboard not recognized by XP. Can someone shed any light on what this could be?

[philbrown23]

honestly... no. the difference in pwm will not allow you to cross flash. asus figured out what we were doing and put a stop to it.

how much are you being limited?

my maximus i can bench @ 5ghz w/ my e8500



last night's run... zero tweaks. (ram @ auto)

what bios are you using? no tweaks at all? mine will hit 4.7ghz but wil only bench at 4.5ghz and it's flaky then, and I have to put the voltage right to it.

[dasc]

I used mine for about 6 months and I freezed it twice for 3 and 4-5 hours. If I ever get a replacement, the first thing I am going to do is to put it the freezer.

I am going to place an order for ASUS P5Q Deluxe this weekend, so I will have something to play with(without trying to remove the heatsink). P5Q Deluxe has only two fan connector which I don't like.

Newegg has XIGMATEK HDT-S1283 120mm for $26.99 after $10.00 Mail-In
Rebate + FS. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835233003. Does some know if it fits P5Q Deluxe and miximus formula?

We are, but you screwed it up. Not saying I've never been there, but I got a collection of dead parts to remind me to be cautious.


BTW, I was the one who originally meantioned freezing the board to remove the heatsink. It worked a treat for me. I noticed that my RMA board was frozen when I got it(was still winter here, board had condensation on it), and it came off with ease.

Now, today I had the chance to play with another board, and IT was much harder to remove than my first, but still it just popped right off.

Mind you both time, the board had not been run for very long, allowing the tim to set.

Mind you, in the end, my boards are SE's, not the regular boards, so that might have something to do with it...

[shimmishim]

You guys have any recommendations for a 2x2GB set that works fine with this board? It seems the OCing capability is limited due to 4x1GB sticks.

I use the G.Skill 2x2GB PC2-8000 4GBPQ

They were around 75 or so from newegg a while back. I think they're still the same price.

[ZenEffect]

what bios are you using? no tweaks at all? mine will hit 4.7ghz but wil only bench at 4.5ghz and it's flaky then, and I have to put the voltage right to it.

what cooling are you using? ive got a ss phase on my cpu. perhaps that is what accounting for higher cpu. also im on maximus formula... though i flashed to rampage for higher fsb. just ran a quick test tonight.

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=387905
max fsb.

I thought you guys were on my side!?

we were! right up until the point to where you broke your hardware in such a way that asus would actually care about the warranty.

stop trying to ruin it for the rest of us

[iTravis]

I use the G.Skill 2x2GB PC2-8000 4GBPQ

They were around 75 or so from newegg a while back. I think they're still the same price.

I notice your sig that you used to have 4x1GB Crucial sticks like mine and you're now running the 2x2GB G.Skill? Do you notice any differences?
It's $84.99 on newegg and have such great reviews. I'll grab that to replace my 4x1GB sticks.
Thank you!

[TheScavenger]

I notice your sig that you used to have 4x1GB Crucial sticks like mine and you're now running the 2x2GB G.Skill? Do you notice any differences?
It's $84.99 on newegg and have such great reviews. I'll grab that to replace my 4x1GB sticks.
Thank you!

I'm curious as well...

[shimmishim]

I'm curious as well...

For everyday use and what not... no, I don't notice anything different.

If I were to bench my system then yes I would notice a difference as I used tighter subtimings with my crucials since they were a very nice set of D9's.

I like mine a lot and I'm going to run 2x2 until 4x2 becomes more popular and prevalent.

[Grnfinger]

I just dumped Vista SP1 and installed XP pro for the first time on my MF. I have an unknown device identified as "on Intel(R) ICH9R LPC Interface Controller - 2916". All of the add on devices are installed and working properly (unlike on Vista). I downloaded the Intel chipset install utility, the soundmax drivers, Intel matrix manager for my raid HDs, etc. I have not loaded the Asus drivers from the CD. This device has to be something on the motherboard not recognized by XP. Can someone shed any light on what this could be?

Stick your Asus mobo disk in and it will fix itself

[HousERaT]

Can some say whether or not the Rampage mod gives this board better fsb? Sorry if this question was asked before.