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    Quote Originally Posted by soundood View Post
    this is a really bad analogy matey,
    I don't see how. The situation is nearly identical. Just the expected outcome is radically different, and that's the whole purpose of an analogy in the first place--to give proper perspective by demonstrating the same circumstances in a different setting.

    Game of poker = Game of overclocking
    Pit = Returns Department
    Demand money back for lack of of expected results in poker = Demand money back for lack of expected results in overclocking

    In the poker scenario this seems ridiculous...because it is. That's what I'm trying to get you to understand about your returning a chip because it wouldn't overclock as much as you were expecting.

    Both poker and overclocking are essentially gambling--they're games of chance and luck. There are no promises provided and none can be expected if one is thinking properly. You just get what's on the label. In this case, a 9850 is a chip that is supposed to run at 2.5GHz. A 9950 is a chip that is supposed to run at 2.6GHz. Expected overclocking targets has absolutely NOTHING to do with how these chips are marketed and sold. If they make a 9975 that clocks at 2.7GHz but can't overclock to 2703MHz on ANY chip under that label, they are still being logical, reasonable, and fair.
    Last edited by Particle; 07-10-2008 at 12:52 PM.
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