Official DFI LanParty UT X38-T2R(and LT) Discussion/Review/Overclock/Guide Thread

[OnDborder]

Just got a DFI LP LT X38-T2R board just the other night got it installed and up and running. Getting my 2x 4850's today.

System specs in sig, mobo and video not updated. I know its in here somewhere but is there any good posts dealing with tuning up a E8400 with 4x sticks of G.Skill PC-6400 ram? Ideally getting my CPU back to 4Ghz is ideal, even more so for benching will rock

Also one thing I noticed with this over my ABIT IP35-Pro that I have. At least with the V-Droop setting enabled, when I reads 1.175V bios its actually ~1.2V. Man before I had to pump 1.37V in the bios to get 1.225V to get my chip stable at 4Ghz, with this seems like I should be able to hit 4Ghz on default VID. Is it recommend to run V-Droop on or off?

Hey, hey.. Looky who got their board
Have fun reading through the 3000+ threads.

[deathman20]

Hey, hey.. Looky who got their board
Have fun reading through the 3000+ threads.

You will help me or I will slap you silly.

[zsamz_]

You will help me or I will slap you silly.

now slapyourself i not helpin try readin
another one i will ignore

[deathman20]

now slapyourself i not helpin try readin
another one i will ignore

Ah just giving him some crap hes the one that really did it in for me on this board. Haven't had a chance yet to play with the settings that you suggested yet. Actually not sure if my ram will do 500Mhz, I know I've gotten them to 480Mhz but still wasn't sure if they where stable at that time.

Will pumping that much into the NB it it to excessively hot, since right now I do not have a fan directly blowing on it? I don't have a fan to fit the NB properly yet, got an old P4 fan that I plan on mounting onto it after I get it down to size and slap my CPU fan on the top side of the heatsink to suck air through it. Just going from what my old P35 chipset was and it acted OK without the fan blowing onto it and that was the stock cooler giving it 1.5V.

[deathman20]

Well I think I have to dial in my ram a little more and get a feeling for it. I tried your pull settings zsamz and it works at default, but crashes when I try OCing it. Wouldn't even take at 1.55V NB for 400FSB. Backed it down to 1.4V and works with everything on auto so far for 400Mhz. Decent temps too, used smartguardian to read the NB temps. Hovering in the low 40's currently.

[barong]

guys, i jut upgrade to DFI Lanparty Dark X38 T2R from DFI Lanparty Dark P35 T2RS , anyone know how to get 500x8 or how to pass over 500 fsb , also anyone can guide me how to setting the bios, please help guys, i tried 500x8 and it wont boot, please need help

[zsamz_]

guys, i jut upgrade to DFI Lanparty Dark X38 T2R from DFI Lanparty Dark P35 T2RS , anyone know how to get 500x8 or how to pass over 500 fsb , also anyone can guide me how to setting the bios, please help guys, i tried 500x8 and it wont boot, please need help

you need to set gtl setting to 61-63%
try reading the thread lol
but this is not the dk tread

[barong]

@zsamz
which gtl , all gtl to 61-63%?
sorry if im not reading all off the thread, i cant wait to try 500x8

[barong]

and what should i do with this:
CPU Clock Amplitude
CPU Clock Skew0
CPU Clock Skew1

GTL + Buffer stregth
Host Skew Rate
CPU GTL 0/2 REF Volt
CPU GTL 1/2 REF volt
North Bridge GTL REF Volt

please need guide here

[zsamz_]

and what should i do with this:
CPU Clock Amplitude
CPU Clock Skew0
CPU Clock Skew1

GTL + Buffer stregth
Host Skew Rate
CPU GTL 0/2 REF Volt
CPU GTL 1/2 REF volt
North Bridge GTL REF Volt

please need guide here

you need to do some reading before you ask questions gl

[Dimek]

guys, i jut upgrade to DFI Lanparty Dark X38 T2R from DFI Lanparty Dark P35 T2RS , anyone know how to get 500x8 or how to pass over 500 fsb , also anyone can guide me how to setting the bios, please help guys, i tried 500x8 and it wont boot, please need help

Read this and see short movie
http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3294&p=14

[stoneyman]

Hey guys, i've been searching this thread for couple of days about a problem i'm having with my mtron mobi drive and bsod with this mobo.
I've been trying to install winxp64 and get the bsod after the first reboot.
It installs fine on a raptor. i'm running everything stock settings. My next step is to upgrade the bios. Any suggestions or ideas of other things to try are appreciated

system specs
xeon 3350 quad
ocz flex2 ddr2
2-ati 4870
32gb mobi
ultra 1000w psu

[Dimek]

New bios - dated 14/7/2008

LANPARTY LT X38-T2R

Major Reasons of Change:
1. Fixed system can not display with some Graphic card.
2. Optimized system O.C. function.
3. Fixed on board audio record function.
4. Fixed “Execute Disable Bit” function fail.

[zanzabar]

dose that mean that it will do the 3870x2 now

[vws]

... and again, this is still not an official release yet. Unbelievable. DFI, you are slipping, in a bad shape.

[merlin76]

Looks like internal NB Timings have been relaxed as performance is worse:

BIOS 06/03:


BIOS 07/14:


Settings are identical except for Vcore and disabled EIST/C1E. My previous 24/7 stable OC wasn't stable anymore and currently I'm trying to find the reason.

CPU Feature
- Thermal Management Control: Enabled
- PPM(EIST) Mode: Enabled
- Limit CPUID MaxVal: Disabled
- CIE Function: Auto
- Virtualization Technology: Enabled
- Core Multi-Processing: Enabled

Exit Setup Shutdown: Mode 2
Shutdown after AC Loss: Disabled
CLOCK VCO divider: Auto
CPU Clock Ratio Unlock: Enabled
CPU Clock Ratio: 8
- Target CPU Clock:
CPU Clock: 450
Boot Up Clock:
DRAM Speed: 266/667
- Target DRAM Speed:
PCIE Clock: 100mhz
PCIE Slot Config: 1X 1X

CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
SATA Spread Spectrum: Disabled

Voltage Settings
CPU VID Control: Auto (1.2325)
CPU VID Special Add Limit: Disabled
CPU VID Special Add: +100.47%
DRAM Voltage Control: 2.0V
SB Core/CPU PLL Voltage: 1.510V
NB Core Voltage: 1.566V
CPU VTT Voltage: 1.310V
Vcore Droop Control: Enabled
Clockgen Voltage Control: 3.45V
GTL+ Buffers Strength: Strong
Host Slew Rate: Weak
GTL REF Voltage Control: Enabled
x CPU GTL1/3 REF Volt: 93
x CPU GTL 0/2 REF Volt: 90
x North Bridge GTL REF Volt: 105

DRAM Timing
- Enhance Data transmitting: Fast
- Enhance Addressing: Fast
- T2 Dispatch: Enabled

Clock Setting Fine Delay
DLL Mode: Mode 0

Ch1 Clock Crossing Setting: More Relaxed
- DIMM 1 Clock fine delay: Current
- DIMM 2 Clock fine delay: Current
- Ch 1 Command fine delay: Current
- Ch 1 Control fine delay: Current


Ch2 Clock Crossing Setting: More Relaxed
- DIMM 3 Clock fine delay: Current
- DIMM 4 Clock fine delay: Current
- Ch 2 Command fine delay: Current
- Ch 2 Control fine delay: Current

Ch1Ch2 CommonClock Setting: More Relaxed

Ch1 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto
Ch1 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto
Ch1 Command to CS Delay: Auto

Ch2 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto
Ch2 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto
Ch2 Command to CS Delay: Auto

CAS Latency Time (tCL):5
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD):5
RAS# Precharge (tRP):5
Precharge Delay (tRAS):15
All Precharge to Act: 6
REF to ACT Delay (tRFC): 54
Performance LVL (Read Delay) (tRD): 6

Read delay phase adjust: Enter

Ch1 Read delay phase (4~0)
- Channel 1 Phase 0 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 1 Phase 1 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 1 Phase 2 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 1 Phase 3 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 1 Phase 4 Pull-In: Auto

Ch2 Read delay phase (4~0)
- Channel 2 Phase 0 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 2 Phase 1 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 2 Phase 2 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 2 Phase 3 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 2 Phase 4 Pull-In: Auto

MCH ODT Latency: Auto
Write to PRE Delay (tWR): 14
Rank Write to Read (tWTR): 11
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD): 3
Read to Write Delay (tRDWR): 8
Ranks Write to Write (tWRWR): 6
Ranks Read to Read (tRDRD): 6
Ranks Write to Read (tWRRD): 5
Read CAS# Precharge (tRTP): 3
ALL PRE to Refresh: 6

It seems to be stable again with stock Vcore and Special Add 100.70%. Although performance is worse I could not lower Vnb, seems that CPU load on NB eats up everything. Currently, I'm not impressed.

// Edit
Still not stable...


// Edit
Stable but still slower:

CPU Feature
- Thermal Management Control: Enabled
- PPM(EIST) Mode: Enabled
- Limit CPUID MaxVal: Disabled
- CIE Function: Auto
- Excecute Disable Bit: Enabled
- Virtualization Technology: Enabled
- Core Multi-Processing: Enabled

Exit Setup Shutdown: Mode 2
Shutdown after AC Loss: Disabled
CLOCK VCO divider: Auto
CPU Clock Ratio Unlock: Enabled
CPU Clock Ratio: 8
- Target CPU Clock:
CPU Clock: 450
Boot Up Clock:
DRAM Speed: 266/667
- Target DRAM Speed:
PCIE Clock: 100mhz
PCIE Slot Config: 1X 1X

CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
SATA Spread Spectrum: Disabled

Voltage Settings
CPU VID Control: Auto (1.2325)
CPU VID Special Add Limit: Disabled
CPU VID Special Add: +100.47%
DRAM Voltage Control: 2.0V
SB Core/CPU PLL Voltage: 1.510V
NB Core Voltage: 1.566V
CPU VTT Voltage: 1.310V
Vcore Droop Control: Enabled
Clockgen Voltage Control: 3.45V
GTL+ Buffers Strength: Strong
Host Slew Rate: Weak
MCH RON Offset Value: 00
MCH RTT Offset Value: 00
MCH Slew Rate Offset Value: 00
MCH VREF 1 Value: 00
MCH VREF 2 Value: 00
MCH VREF 3 Value: 80
GTL REF Voltage Control: Enabled
x CPU GTL1/3 REF Volt: 93
x CPU GTL 0/2 REF Volt: 90
x North Bridge GTL REF Volt: 105

DRAM Timing
- Enhance Data transmitting: Fast
- Enhance Addressing: Fast
- T2 Dispatch: Enabled

Clock Setting Fine Delay
DRAM CLK Driving Strength: Level 8
DRAM Data Driving Strength: Level 8
Ch1 DLL Default Skew Model: Mode 0
Ch2 DLL Default Skew Model: Mode 0

Fine Delay Step Degree: 5ps

Ch1 Clock Crossing Setting: Auto
- DIMM 1 Clock fine delay: Current
- DIMM 2 Clock fine delay: Current
- Ch 1 Command fine delay: Current
- Ch 1 Control fine delay: Current


Ch2 Clock Crossing Setting: Auto
- DIMM 3 Clock fine delay: Current
- DIMM 4 Clock fine delay: Current
- Ch 2 Command fine delay: Current
- Ch 2 Control fine delay: Current

Ch1Ch2 CommonClock Setting: Auto

Ch1 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto
Ch1 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto
Ch1 Command to CS Delay: Auto

Ch2 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto
Ch2 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto
Ch2 Command to CS Delay: Auto

CAS Latency Time (tCL):5
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD):5
RAS# Precharge (tRP):5
Precharge Delay (tRAS):15
All Precharge to Act: 6
REF to ACT Delay (tRFC): 54
Performance LVL (Read Delay) (tRD): 7

Read delay phase adjust: Enter

Ch1 Read delay phase (4~0)
- Channel 1 Phase 0 Pull-In: Enabled
- Channel 1 Phase 1 Pull-In: Enabled
- Channel 1 Phase 2 Pull-In: Enabled
- Channel 1 Phase 3 Pull-In: Enabled
- Channel 1 Phase 4 Pull-In: Enabled

Ch2 Read delay phase (4~0)
- Channel 2 Phase 0 Pull-In: Enabled
- Channel 2 Phase 1 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 2 Phase 2 Pull-In: Enabled
- Channel 2 Phase 3 Pull-In: Enabled
- Channel 2 Phase 4 Pull-In: Enabled

MCH ODT Latency: Auto
Write to PRE Delay (tWR): 14
Rank Write to Read (tWTR): 11
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD): 3
Read to Write Delay (tRDWR): 8
Ranks Write to Write (tWRWR): 6
Ranks Read to Read (tRDRD): 6
Ranks Write to Read (tWRRD): 5
Read CAS# Precharge (tRTP): 3
ALL PRE to Refresh: 6

// Edit
Finally fast and stable again:

CPU Feature
- Thermal Management Control: Enabled
- PPM(EIST) Mode: Enabled
- Limit CPUID MaxVal: Disabled
- CIE Function: Auto
- Excecute Disable Bit: Enabled
- Virtualization Technology: Enabled
- Core Multi-Processing: Enabled

Exit Setup Shutdown: Mode 2
Shutdown after AC Loss: Disabled
CLOCK VCO divider: Auto
CPU Clock Ratio Unlock: Enabled
CPU Clock Ratio: 8
- Target CPU Clock:
CPU Clock: 450
Boot Up Clock:
DRAM Speed: 266/667
- Target DRAM Speed:
PCIE Clock: 100mhz
PCIE Slot Config: 1X 1X

CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
SATA Spread Spectrum: Disabled

Voltage Settings
CPU VID Control: Auto (1.2325)
CPU VID Special Add Limit: Enabled
CPU VID Special Add: Auto
DRAM Voltage Control: 2.0V
SB Core/CPU PLL Voltage: 1.510V
NB Core Voltage: 1.566V
CPU VTT Voltage: 1.310V
Vcore Droop Control: Enabled
Clockgen Voltage Control: 3.45V
GTL+ Buffers Strength: Strong
Host Slew Rate: Weak
MCH RON Offset Value: 00
MCH RTT Offset Value: 00
MCH Slew Rate Offset Value: 00
MCH VREF 1 Value: 00
MCH VREF 2 Value: 00
MCH VREF 3 Value: 80
GTL REF Voltage Control: Enabled
x CPU GTL1/3 REF Volt: 95
x CPU GTL 0/2 REF Volt: 93
x North Bridge GTL REF Volt: 109

DRAM Timing
- Enhance Data transmitting: Fast
- Enhance Addressing: Fast
- T2 Dispatch: Enabled

Clock Setting Fine Delay
DRAM CLK Driving Strength: Level 8
DRAM Data Driving Strength: Level 8
Ch1 DLL Default Skew Model: Mode 0
Ch2 DLL Default Skew Model: Mode 0

Fine Delay Step Degree: 5ps

Ch1 Clock Crossing Setting: Auto
- DIMM 1 Clock fine delay: Current
- DIMM 2 Clock fine delay: Current
- Ch 1 Command fine delay: Current
- Ch 1 Control fine delay: Current


Ch2 Clock Crossing Setting: Auto
- DIMM 3 Clock fine delay: Current
- DIMM 4 Clock fine delay: Current
- Ch 2 Command fine delay: Current
- Ch 2 Control fine delay: Current

Ch1Ch2 CommonClock Setting: Auto

Ch1 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto
Ch1 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto
Ch1 Command to CS Delay: Auto

Ch2 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto
Ch2 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto
Ch2 Command to CS Delay: Auto

CAS Latency Time (tCL):5
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD):5
RAS# Precharge (tRP):5
Precharge Delay (tRAS):15
All Precharge to Act: 6
REF to ACT Delay (tRFC): 54
Performance LVL (Read Delay) (tRD): 6

Read delay phase adjust: Enter

Ch1 Read delay phase (4~0)
- Channel 1 Phase 0 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 1 Phase 1 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 1 Phase 2 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 1 Phase 3 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 1 Phase 4 Pull-In: Auto

Ch2 Read delay phase (4~0)
- Channel 2 Phase 0 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 2 Phase 1 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 2 Phase 2 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 2 Phase 3 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 2 Phase 4 Pull-In: Auto

MCH ODT Latency: Auto
Write to PRE Delay (tWR): 14
Rank Write to Read (tWTR): 11
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD): 3
Read to Write Delay (tRDWR): 8
Ranks Write to Write (tWRWR): 6
Ranks Read to Read (tRDRD): 6
Ranks Write to Read (tWRRD): 5
Read CAS# Precharge (tRTP): 3
ALL PRE to Refresh: 6

As performance now is on par and I can run auto Vcore I'm quite happy with it.

[jcool]

I'm gonna try the new bios... maybe this one lets me go over FSB 450

[Major97702]

Hi, New to this much of detailed Bios for Overclocking (came from NF4 Mobo so simple easy BIOS).

But with my DFI X38 mobo and Q6600 G0, what would be your guys recomend for max CPU VTT Voltage? Trying to see how high I can get this beast, but with Air cooling my Volts are limited. Currently my CPU VID Control is at 1.4000v) and that seems to be about the max I really want to go(maybe 1.42 if really needed,@ 1.4v I see Low 60's on all cores after couple hours of Prime95).

current Set up is:

357x9= 3213mhz @ DDR2 1073
CPU VID = 1.4000
Dram Volts= 2.12
NB Volts= 1.504v
CPU VTT v.= 1.442v

Any kind of help would be great, searched through all posts couldn't see anything that would help me alot, but if I missed something a quote and your a idiot would be great

[jupitersj]

Now that I've had alittle time to settle in with this board and play some games I want to tinker

Can anyone tell me why the heck this board overvolts 45nm CPU's sooo damn much? I'm pretty such i'm using the 3/14/2008 bios with SLAPL rev CO/MO batch Q815A086 5/28/08 E8400 1.25V max.

Yes, I do have Vdroop option enabled.

Just to let you know first, after I set a CPU VID then save and reboot, if I go into the bios at the bottom of that same screen you can see the actual voltage being received(which never match the CPU VID). In those actual voltages received the CPU Core's Voltage matches Everest and CPU-Z readings spot on.

Bios CPU VID 1.2200~ AUTO = 1.184 CPU-Z/Everest/Bios
Bios CPU VID 1.12500 = 1.168 CPU-Z/Everest/Bios
Bios CPU VID 1.16250 = 1.200 CPU-Z/Everest/Bios
Bios CPU VID 1.18125 = 1.232 CPU-Z/Everest/Bios

Is this because vdroop enabled? I haven't noticed any drop in the programs when I'm at load... this is a ton of overvolting.. Why so much?

Someone explain to this noob .. and why the heck does the auto do the opposite of the others?

I'm prime95'ing at VID 1.12500 = 1.168 CPU-Z/Everest etc right now. I tried to run 400x9 on stock auto settings but bluescreened loading vista hehe... oh well. I have a feeling it's not the vcc that is the cause anyway.

Any help?

[Mysterfix]

Now that I've had alittle time to settle in with this board and play some games I want to tinker

Can anyone tell me why the heck this board overvolts 45nm CPU's sooo damn much? I'm pretty such i'm using the 3/14/2008 bios with SLAPL rev CO/MO batch Q815A086 5/28/08 E8400 1.25V max.

Yes, I do have Vdroop option enabled.

Just to let you know first, after I set a CPU VID then save and reboot, if I go into the bios at the bottom of that same screen you can see the actual voltage being received(which never match the CPU VID). In those actual voltages received the CPU Core's Voltage matches Everest and CPU-Z readings spot on.

Bios CPU VID 1.2200~ AUTO = 1.184 CPU-Z/Everest/Bios
Bios CPU VID 1.12500 = 1.168 CPU-Z/Everest/Bios
Bios CPU VID 1.16250 = 1.200 CPU-Z/Everest/Bios
Bios CPU VID 1.18125 = 1.232 CPU-Z/Everest/Bios

Is this because vdroop enabled? I haven't noticed any drop in the programs when I'm at load... this is a ton of overvolting.. Why so much?

Someone explain to this noob .. and why the heck does the auto do the opposite of the others?

I'm prime95'ing at VID 1.12500 = 1.168 CPU-Z/Everest etc right now. I tried to run 400x9 on stock auto settings but bluescreened loading vista hehe... oh well. I have a feeling it's not the vcc that is the cause anyway.

Any help?

I don't have my board yet but I think maybe you might want to just try turning off the vdroop function and see what you get.

[DoObs]

What can we expect on FSB wise, 600FSB and over or less....I managed to get 600FSB with my DFI P35 LP UT T2R

[zanzabar]

Now that I've had alittle time to settle in with this board and play some games I want to tinker

Can anyone tell me why the heck this board overvolts 45nm CPU's sooo damn much? I'm pretty such i'm using the 3/14/2008 bios with SLAPL rev CO/MO batch Q815A086 5/28/08 E8400 1.25V max.

Yes, I do have Vdroop option enabled.

Just to let you know first, after I set a CPU VID then save and reboot, if I go into the bios at the bottom of that same screen you can see the actual voltage being received(which never match the CPU VID). In those actual voltages received the CPU Core's Voltage matches Everest and CPU-Z readings spot on.

Bios CPU VID 1.2200~ AUTO = 1.184 CPU-Z/Everest/Bios
Bios CPU VID 1.12500 = 1.168 CPU-Z/Everest/Bios
Bios CPU VID 1.16250 = 1.200 CPU-Z/Everest/Bios
Bios CPU VID 1.18125 = 1.232 CPU-Z/Everest/Bios

Is this because vdroop enabled? I haven't noticed any drop in the programs when I'm at load... this is a ton of overvolting.. Why so much?

Someone explain to this noob .. and why the heck does the auto do the opposite of the others?

I'm prime95'ing at VID 1.12500 = 1.168 CPU-Z/Everest etc right now. I tried to run 400x9 on stock auto settings but bluescreened loading vista hehe... oh well. I have a feeling it's not the vcc that is the cause anyway.

Any help?

it looks like u didnt set the VID special add, u need to set it to the lowest setting and not auto

[zsamz_]

What can we expect on FSB wise, 600FSB and over or less....I managed to get 600FSB with my DFI P35 LP UT T2R

550 if you lucky
you better off with your ut p35 unless you gonna do crossfire

[DoObs]

550 if you lucky
you better off with your ut p35 unless you gonna do crossfire

Yea indeed, seeing as ive already done 600FSB on mine aswell.

Dry ice.

You guys know where i can get heatsinks for my UT P35, those heatpipes suck if you want to watercool your NB chip.

[jcool]

Seeing that you're located in South Africa I don't know really, but you can use almost any block for the NB. I use some cheap Alphacool NSB block but many other are working, too. Problem with the UT is, if you unmount the heatpipe you're gonna have to deal with Sb and PWM, too. SB is no problem, any small cooler will do. PWM, well. You'd either need the passive PWM cooling of a P35/X38 LT which is great, or something like this:



Mips PWM block, really love it so far cause it uses titan nano grease instead of a conductive pad, also cools the pulse modulator chips (they get ing hot) and looks slick. Got PWM temps of around water + 15 which is great for a 4Ghz Q6600.