|\|EW|3 is trying to get a new rig and overclock it.

[RAW-Raptor22]

4GB of RAM, and no B(L)OSE speakers either. BOSE uses lame frequency tricks in order to fool noobs that they are hearing quality sound. Get a nice set of studio monitors, a receiver, and a sub and you will be set audio wise.

[mop231]

or microlab 7c

[|\|EW|3]

I fixed the links. And really Bose is not that good?
Wrigley Man...I gots no parts yet.

[|\|EW|3]

Hey goiz i thought id let you know i fixed all those links.
lol oops i already did^

[|\|EW|3]

hey how do i remove a poll from a thread??

[RAW-Raptor22]

I fixed the links. And really Bose is not that good?
Wrigley Man...I gots no parts yet.

Yeah man, bose stinks, goet some nice studio monitors and a couple of subs.

[Deluge]

I've got a few suggestions for you, coming from someone who built a system a few months ago and is now regretting parts of it:

Reconsider AMD/ATI graphics cards. Read everything you can on them, and you'll see that the new 4870s are the way to go.

Something I ran into with my 8800gt was the fact that you need a volt mod to realize its full potential. I attempted a hardware volt mod (soldering a variable resistor to a tiny little spec, surrounded by integral resistors) and I killed my card. If you're comfortable with that, then there's still the issue of SLI. SLI only works on an Nvidia board or a skulltrail system. Nvidia boards are notoriously bad stability wise, except for the 790i 350$ + board (I have no experience with it, though)

With the 4870s you can do a pencil mod to raise core and memory voltage so there's pretty much no chance of you killing it unless you take away too much resistance (read up on mods before you perform them, there are whole threads on ATI / Nvidia modding) Also, crossfire can be enabled on Intel chipsets which are (the vast majority of the time) better.


As for water cooling, I can help put together a list of things you'll want based on your case and budget if you'd like, or you can ask in the water cooling section and read up on what everybody else has and what works the best.


About displays - I can tell you from experience that the samsung 24" screens look fantastic, but that's your choice of course.


Uhmm.. what else.. oh - motherboard and CPU - look at the P45 and x48 chipsets. P45 has been shown to get excellent results with FSB clocking with dual cores (and I'm assuming quads as well, but I haven't really seen anything yet) Look at the biostar tpower P45 threads. And I'm pretty sure most everyone here will agree that x48 is the best overall overclocking chip. Look into the Foxconn Blackops. As for CPU - an 8500 is a great choice, though you might look into one of the higher multiplier quads while you're still planning everything.

Ask around if you have any questions, people here are more or less friendly and willing to help out

[|\|EW|3]

hmm. so i see not alot of ppl like Nvidia. Deluge, do you know if you have to do that hardware mod with newer cards?

[Deluge]

As far as I know the newest Nvidia cards don't have a pencil mod, but you might check in the xtreme mods section. Again, all of the cards can overclock pretty far without a mod, you'll just need a voltmod if you have adequate cooling and want to go past that point.

And it's not really that people don't like Nvidia, I happen to love my 8800gt, it's just that their new cards are extremely expensive and their performance can be had for a lot less if you go with the newest ati cards.

Edit: apparently the GTX280 has a chip or something that allows for software to up the voltage to a max of 2.0v, but I'm not 100% sure about that.

[|\|EW|3]

Deluge. Thanx for that. It helps alot. GTX 280 sounds nice. But yea not gonna decide on the essential parts until i got all my money . hey btw u know how to remove polls?

[Deluge]

Nah, sorry mate. Might ask a mod to remove it for you?

[|\|EW|3]

yea sure.wait... ive not gotten any of the parts yet.
but it be pleased if you'd do that anyhow.

[mop231]

edit maybe first post eh?

[|\|EW|3]

sorry mop did something send you off in the intro post?

[|\|EW|3]

so i have a question.What is better
E8400 or E8500?

[RAW-Raptor22]

so i have a question.What is better
E8400 or E8500?

E8500 has slightly higher multi which may translate to higher clocks. Your call...

[mop231]

i wuz saying that you should edit your first post and then remove teh poll maan

[|\|EW|3]

yea how do i remove it??? ive been asking 4 a while.

[|\|EW|3]

btw i knew about the higher multiplier. im wondering if the extra $50 is worth it..

[mop231]

just push edit buton on first post and see if theres some options bout the poll maan

[|\|EW|3]

yea i checked and it didnt work. so i got some speakers. Logitech X 240
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....=1172880155361
are these any good to you guys?

[|\|EW|3]

What do you guys think of Logitech X240 speakers?

[|\|EW|3]

alright so i have these Logitech X 240
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....=1172880155361
and im going to trade them in.
im not sure if i should trade them in for Logitech Z 2300 or Logitech G51.
although the G51 has more speakers the Z2300's speakers have more watts in em. and so does the subwoofer. I think the Z 2300 has 120W sub and G51 has 56W sub.
but i really like the extension piece for the G51 :P. not that that REALLY matters.
Votes? Z2300 vs G51. post your opinion!

[mop231]

i vote for microlabs c7 (or somethin like that ) they are B I G and look so HF and they are cheaper :P

[|\|EW|3]

i hear u talk about those b4 and i looked em up on google. didn't get any results ...what are they.