"ASUS P5Q Deluxe discussion".

[rmanuelb]

I'm only going to try it tonight,... but it's summer time... more than 30º in Portugal (I think you know what I mean ).

With 1,45 VCore I'm on 35º iddle with a 28º/30º ambient. I need to get my home AC running

Regards

I'm going to quote myself , just to get the introduction

4GHz is a no go for daily use ... with a Q6600, to much voltage needed... even breaking down the CPU temps, I think it's too much Voltage to the components and it's not worthwhile.

I’m going for 3.6GHz … it’s almost out of the box and enough... to handle my future 4870 Crossfire.

Regards

[Vivi]

Yea what volts you need for 4ghz? my Q6600 needs 1.51 then he is 3d stable !
def not something u want 24/7 and to be honest overclocking a CPU for 24/7 is not that important for games, id rather oc the gpu ! but always nice to have a 4ghz Wolfie there for 1.3v.

Im getting my p5q Delux monday.. Yay. i will solder VTT, PLL, and watever we CANT see. then il show picks of the voltages put in bios, and recieved in real. cause i dont like clocking Blindly, i know my rampage overvolted like a demon on PLL. so ya

[rmanuelb]

Yea what volts you need for 4ghz? ...

Just to get Vista64 started more than 1,525v ... for stability... who knows

[gurusan]

I am having 3dmark cpu score problems I'm only scoring about 5200-5300 with my Q6600 at 3.7ghz. I should be getting 300-500 pts more than that... I tried dropping my multi and upping the FSB from 412x9 to 463x8 but I only get like 10-20pts more :/ I have 4x1gb ocz at 1100mhz 5,5,5,15 PL 9 and running bios 803 beta

Anyone have any ideas? normally I wouldn't be so picky but I am only a few hundred pts away from taking the 1st single card score on another forum and it's my CPU score that's holding me back.

[eva2000]

I couldn't get it Superpi 32mb stable before but some have done it on 0706... downgrade prob is solved via Eva2000's suggestion to rename the bios files... back on 0604 without an issue later on , back on 0803...

Good to know it works still

[Leeghoofd]

Try these settings Ricochet, plz change one value at a time plz some boards are picky with voltages... so you have an idea where it goes wrong if it didn't post

First off I've seen many run closer to 1.4 on a 45nm esp on the P45's because they're a dye of the P35 or something right?

Here's my setup (I tried to have it as my sig)

MOBO: P5Q DLX P45
CPU: E8400 Wolfdale w/ Thermalright 120eX
RAM: 4GB Corsair Dominator PC8500
GPU: 8800GTS (G92) <-- soon to be 4870X2

Try these :

JumperFree Configuration Settings
AI Overclock tuner: MANUAL
CPU Ratio Setting: set 8x first then 9X
FSB Strap to North Bridge: AUTO
FSB Frequency: 450
PCI-E Frequency: 101
DRAM Frequency: 1081
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: AUTO

1st Information :

CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 55
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO


DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: AUTO
MEM. OC Charger: AUTO
AI Clock Twister: AUTO
AI Transaction Booster: AUTO

CPU Voltage: 1.35 --> depending on ya CPU ofcourse
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): AUTO
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.6 --> set first at AUTO then this value, try to find the lowest possible plz
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.32 --> set first at AUTO then this value, try to find the lowest possible plz
DRAM Voltage: 2.1
NB Voltage: 1.26 --> set first at AUTO then this value, try to find the lowest possible plz
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: AUTO
PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO

Load Line Calibration: Disabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : AUTO
NB Clock Skew : AUTO

Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Setting: Manual
C1E Suppport: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel&#174; Virtualization Tech: Disabled
Vanderpool Technology: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled

I am having 3dmark cpu score problems I'm only scoring about 5200-5300 with my Q6600 at 3.7ghz. I should be getting 300-500 pts more than that... I tried dropping my multi and upping the FSB from 412x9 to 463x8 but I only get like 10-20pts more :/ I have 4x1gb ocz at 1100mhz 5,5,5,15 PL 9 and running bios 803 beta

Anyone have any ideas? normally I wouldn't be so picky but I am only a few hundred pts away from taking the 1st single card score on another forum and it's my CPU score that's holding me back.

9 x 425 then gave me 6000 points in CPU score (not on P45 though) will try tonite to see if I can get at it again with the Qx

[jVIDIA]

No 0901 bios for the Deluxe version ?

[Cob]

Anyone find any differences with 0803?

In haven't, tho my system has been folding for 24 hours using the same settings as I did for 0702, 0704 & 0706, so it must be stable enough.

[NBF]

I am having 3dmark cpu score problems I'm only scoring about 5200-5300 with my Q6600 at 3.7ghz. I should be getting 300-500 pts more than that... I tried dropping my multi and upping the FSB from 412x9 to 463x8 but I only get like 10-20pts more :/ I have 4x1gb ocz at 1100mhz 5,5,5,15 PL 9 and running bios 803 beta

Anyone have any ideas? normally I wouldn't be so picky but I am only a few hundred pts away from taking the 1st single card score on another forum and it's my CPU score that's holding me back.

Your score seems allright to me, what is hurting your cpu scores in 3dmark06 is your OS, If you run on XP you will have the extra 300-500 points

[Ricochet48]

Try these settings Ricochet, plz change one value at a time plz some boards are picky with voltages... so you have an idea where it goes wrong if it didn't post



Try these :

JumperFree Configuration Settings
AI Overclock tuner: MANUAL
CPU Ratio Setting: set 8x first then 9X
FSB Strap to North Bridge: AUTO
FSB Frequency: 450
PCI-E Frequency: 101
DRAM Frequency: 1081
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: AUTO

1st Information :

CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 55
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO


DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: AUTO
MEM. OC Charger: AUTO
AI Clock Twister: AUTO
AI Transaction Booster: AUTO

CPU Voltage: 1.35 --> depending on ya CPU ofcourse
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): AUTO
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.6 --> set first at AUTO then this value, try to find the lowest possible plz
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.32 --> set first at AUTO then this value, try to find the lowest possible plz
DRAM Voltage: 2.1
NB Voltage: 1.26 --> set first at AUTO then this value, try to find the lowest possible plz
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: AUTO
PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO

Load Line Calibration: Disabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : AUTO
NB Clock Skew : AUTO

Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Setting: Manual
C1E Suppport: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel® Virtualization Tech: Disabled
Vanderpool Technology: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled

Ok I think I understand the second grouping now; however, can't my 4gb dominators take 1066 @ 5-5-5-15 timings with a 2.1dimmv? If I had it at 450FSB wouldn't they only be at 900mhz? Also I noticed you thought to loosen the timing to 5-5-5-18, why is this? Also what is the DRAM frequency and PCI-E frequency?

I heard all this talk about a 1:1 ratio, but doesn't it get forced somehow or am I completely lost? I don't want to push my system really hard, but I do want to try to get more performance--hell I don't even know how to clear the CMOS.

More importantly I tried to do Asus instALL for the mobo drivers and now whenever I boot up it's looking for an ICHR10 (sp) boot disk and I have no floopy, I'm completely lost here as I've never used a floppy in BIOS except for RAID 4 years ago. How to I make it stop??

Thanks for the help

[iboomalot]

I have same CPU , ram and mobo let me know how it goes

[Leeghoofd]

Ok I think I understand the second grouping now; however, can't my 4gb dominators take 1066 @ 5-5-5-15 timings with a 2.1dimmv? If I had it at 450FSB wouldn't they only be at 900mhz? Also I noticed you thought to loosen the timing to 5-5-5-18, why is this? Also what is the DRAM frequency and PCI-E frequency?

FSB Frequency: 450
PCI-E Frequency: 101 (PCI frequency for your vidcard)
DRAM Frequency: 1081 -->Frequency of your ram with 450FSB you either get 900Mhz ( so 1;1) or 1081Mhz (more is avalaible but prolly ya ram doesn't support more)
I choose to use 1081 as you run a so called divider and can run a better performance level...
I put 5-5-5-18 as your ram is foreseen to run 5-5-5-15 with 1080mhz you have a small OC on the ram... I just want it to post, tweaking is for later on

But first try my settings with CPU multi at 8X plz see if it's stable


0901 soon lads

[DonBanana]

So, what ist this "soon"? Today? Tommorow?

[jVIDIA]

Niceeeeeeeeee .... we are always hungry for new things to test .. hehehehe

I wish that in this bios version we could get finally PL=7 @ 450fsb

[Ricochet48]

Ok CPU-Z keeps changing from an x8 multi to x6 (3.6 to 2.7Ghz) and stays at 2.7 for the most part.





Also what program should I get to monitor temps

EDIT: I got core temp and I'm at 45 idle and 55C with Prime95 going now. How long should I run it to prove it's stable?
EDIT: Temps up to 60C!, this loose 120eX and weak fan are killing me

[jVIDIA]

Ok CPU-Z keeps changing from an x8 multi to x6 (3.6 to 2.7Ghz) and stays at 2.7 for the most part.

It is The C1E setting causing the throttling. A power saving feature on the ASUS boards. Reduces multiplier at low CPU load.

Change C1E Support to Disabled

[Ricochet48]

It is The C1E setting causing the throttling. A power saving feature on the ASUS boards. Reduces multiplier at low CPU load.

Change C1E Support to Disabled

Where is that setting? Also I set it to 8.5 and got to 3.825Ghz at 45C (same as before!) w00t. Only a 1.35vcore too

EDIT: With proof, going to run prime for 15 or so now. I think this is going to be my primary setting, but I'll try for a 9x for games once I get some better fan control

[jVIDIA]

Where is that setting?

Advance CPU Settings

[sxs112]

No 0901 bios for the Deluxe version ?

ASUS P5Q-Deluxe 0901 Beta Bios

[jVIDIA]

Changes equal to the 0901 for the P5Q / -E / Pro ones ?

[Ricochet48]

I'm running 0605...How do I flash with a flash drive? I just need to unzip the .rom file and put it there right and use Asus's thingy right?

[Cob]

Yeah just unzip the .rom to the flash drive. You have to switch your computer off and back on again before going into the BIOS or else it won't see the flash drive.

[ceemic]

Is there any Vmods for Deluxe already?

I'll get my board tomorrow. Hope it can do over 640FSB to beat my P35-DS4

[Leeghoofd]

I tried this 0901 : overall a small READ and LATENCY improvement , though COPY goes down as noticed already in 803... Only at 500FSB I get about the same results or very close ones to the older biosses...

I'm awaiting pmp official release, this bios seems still a bit buggy... maybe one of the reasons pmp didn't release it at the same time as the P5Q-E bios... I'm flashing back to older version as the BSOD annoyed me BIG TIME plus the lockup in the bios... bummer

I need a bit more NB voltage to get this version stable,... PL levels stay the same to me (this is a quick test so almost all auto besides FSB/RAM speed, PL level manual tested till no post, Vcore 1.35 and NB 1.26 for all runs)

Comparative results on the left 0901 , on the right 0704

400FSB - 800 Mhz ram : PL 9



400FSB - 1002 Mhz ram : PL 7



400FSB - 1066Mhz ram : PL 7



450FSB - 900Mhz ram : PL 10



450FSB - 1081Mhz ram : PL8

[-Zork-]

Changes equal to the 0901 for the P5Q / -E / Pro ones ?

What change have? .