55nm GT200 (GT200-400) on the way?

[Xoulz]

You AMD fanboys are the ones who don't listen to reason. AMD right or wrong! I checked that link and there was no mention of how much Nvidia or AMD are paying for their TSMC wafers. It was also a "known fact" that the R600 was going to blow away the competition. Until it was released. Then all the AMD fanboys were proven wrong. I have yet to see any facts here. If they are so known, then why is it so difficult to cite your sources? And "well grounded predictions"? That is totally idiotic. There's nothing "well grounded" about your wild guesses. Nothing. I think you are morons for making the assumptions that you do. You may not lack "common sense" but you certainly lack critical reasoning skills.

Still trolling...?

We are enthusiasts, it doesn't matter who's chip it is, we are having a logical discussion. It seems your blindfolded because your inherent love for nVidia doesn't allow you to acknowledge FACTS.

My link DID give you facts. Matter of fact, there is a photo of the GTX wafer. Secondly, you now know there is 94 cores per 300mm wafer. Which before you feigned ingnorance....

So, I'm going to play connect-the-dots with you.

Here:
GameSpot
theINQUIRER
PureOC

Probably more than you'll ever want to know:
SemaTech


So... as you can see, it is widely accepted that a 300mm wafer cost about $5,000 dollars. If you wish not to accept this widely known fact, then your just being stubborn and/or an utter "fanboi".

But, just to prove your ignorance, even if we use some fictitiously low cost of $3,500 per wafer and an industry mind blowing 50% yield for a 1.4billion transistor fab, your still looking at $75 per GTX200 core. (Which in reality is estimated @ 20% yield, or about $277 per core)

How do you make a complete Video card with heat sink, fan and materials for $25 bucks..?

2) both the HD4870 and the GTX280 cost under $100 to manufacture.

So (again) remedial mathematics suggest you have no clue as to the business end of microprocessors. We are indeed concerned for Nvidia... and also taking a stab at them while their obviously down.... simply because their monopolistic stance. This will be my first ATI card in a long time and I am quite sure that nearly every gamer and enthusiast is right there with me.

By the time Nvidia actually goes 55nm with their GTX200 series, ATI will probably be getting better yields than what they are and will be able to drop the price of their HD4000 series even more.

Which we are all happy about... except die-hard nVidia fans!




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