im sorry i must have smoked too much good stuff last night after my finals... cause i just read hot hardware review and 4870 SLI beat 1 GTX 280 by 1fps!!!!!!!!!! plus 9800+ beat 4850 and in SLI beat both 4870 and 4850 in CF mode... i'd rather buy 1 gtx280 now and upgrade to SLI or tri-SLI later then buy 2 4870s in CF now or that new RV770 chip... nvidia got it right again just like the 8800gtx... now i just wish SLI worked on an intel chipset