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    Yeah but com'on, hardly anyone here uses the stock cooling for more than a month

    For CF, just do the reverse mount on the upper card.

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    temps look just like the 3870's when i got them but after flashing bios they came down to about 65c

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    Quote Originally Posted by HKPolice View Post
    Also uber high wattage usage too!
    I don't think they used a proper GPU loading tool (fur wtf?). Their relative wattage results for well-known products (GX2 for example) are completely different than other sites, eg Anandtech.

    http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3334&p=9

    In the Anandtech review, there was a large difference between the X2 and the single GPU products, for example. There's almost no difference in the EXPreview test.
    Last edited by Shadowmage; 06-24-2008 at 12:02 AM.

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    No it's not cuz of the cooling design. It uses almost the same wattage as the GTX280. ATi claims only 160w full load vs 236w with the GTX280 which is clearly a LIE.

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    pfft this is xtreme systems... volt mods and water cooling for everyone :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by HKPolice View Post
    No it's not cuz of the cooling design. It uses almost the same wattage as the GTX280. ATi claims only 160w full load vs 236w with the GTX280 which is clearly a LIE.
    160W is card's TDP. If it would be a "LIE" card would simply melt under 230W load.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zerazax View Post
    pfft this is xtreme systems... volt mods and water cooling for everyone :P
    EK have a block yet? or on the way

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    full cover might not work with the 4870s but it looks like mounting holes are the same otherwise..

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    Why do you say that full cover might not work?

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    Only cause the RAM is arranged slightly differently but actually looking at it, the cover might still work anyways (since part of it is angled).

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    Look at that AA rock and roll!

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    Your predictions were pretty spot on... except you said R700 and not RV770! R700 is yet to come..

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    Now is the time for the smart ones among us to be buying AMD shares. AMD now owns the graphics market for this generation and as such is extremely under valued.

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    I read the Chinese version of the review, the card is looking good. If they are selling it for $299 it'll be the best performance/value balanced card out there right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hurleybird View Post
    Now is the time for the smart ones among us to be buying AMD shares. AMD now owns the graphics market for this generation and as such is extremely under valued.
    Don't do that. No one buys shares with the intention on keeping them for under 12 months. Unless your portfolio is diverse, tech stocks should be the last thing you would want to invest in.

    Just my 2 cents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AriciU View Post
    Anyone know a cooling solution that would work for Crossfire? I don't think 2 x HR-03-GT's would fit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MomijiTMO View Post
    Don't do that. No one buys shares with the intention on keeping them for under 12 months. Unless your portfolio is diverse, tech stocks should be the last thing you would want to invest in.

    Just my 2 cents.
    I made the mistake of passing up AMD shares @ 3.50 before (they eventually rose to 40). From the look of things AMD is going to be in a stronger position this generation than NVIDIA was in the last one. That alone doubles, perhaps triples AMD's current valuation. I missed the gravy train once when I should have bought, I'd feel foolish to do so again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xoqolatl View Post
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    wow good call. according to them gtx280 is only 13% faster than HD4870. (but almost 2x price)

    Very nice success from AMD.

    Competition is good because it will push Nvidia even farther to extend the performance lead.

    I would be cautious about buying AMD stock though they have huge problems competing against Intel in the CPU market that are not going away.

    Its just going to get worse for AMD after Nehalem imho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ceevee View Post
    wow good call. according to them gtx280 is only 13% faster than HD4870. (but almost 2x price)

    Very nice success from AMD.

    Competition is good because it will push Nvidia even farther to extend the performance lead.

    I would be cautious about buying AMD stock though they have huge problems competing against Intel in the CPU market that are not going away.

    Its just going to get worse for AMD after Nehalem imho.
    What the point of posting this here
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    Quote Originally Posted by ceevee View Post
    wow good call. according to them gtx280 is only 13% faster than HD4870. (but almost 2x price)

    Very nice success from AMD.

    Competition is good because it will push Nvidia even farther to extend the performance lead.

    I would be cautious about buying AMD stock though they have huge problems competing against Intel in the CPU market that are not going away.

    Its just going to get worse for AMD after Nehalem imho.
    i know, i'll be rubbing that in people's faces for a while

    FYI no NDA, no early access to cards...

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    Quote Originally Posted by xlink View Post
    i know, i'll be rubbing that in people's faces for a while

    FYI no NDA, no early access to cards...
    What good does it do to be right on a total guess though? Unless you logically deduced these numbers, you could be right 20 times, it doesn't make you any more valuable or intelligent about the technology driving performance.

    And I'm not sure what you're proving as you mentioned R700. The only thing I actually see you were right on was the GT200 performance over G92/G80.
    Last edited by Sr7; 06-24-2008 at 01:36 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sr7 View Post
    What good does it do to be right on a total guess though? Unless you logically deduced these numbers, you could be right 20 times, it doesn't make you any more valuable or intelligent about the technology driving performance.

    And I'm not sure what you're proving as you mentioned R700. The only thing I actually see you were right on was the GT200 performance over G92/G80.
    i meant RV 770. was bad typing(I'm transitioning to dvorak from qwerty). note how there is no RV700.

    and I logically deducted the numbers from rumored specs and the like.

    next prediction 4870x2 faster than GTX 280 gx2 given that the rumors of it being driven at a hardware(as opposed to software) level are correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xlink View Post
    i meant RV 770. was bad typing(I'm transitioning to dvorak from qwerty). note how there is no RV700.

    and I logically deducted the numbers from rumored specs and the like.

    next prediction 4870x2 faster than GTX 280 gx2 given that the rumors of it being driven at a hardware(as opposed to software) level are correct.
    What do you mean being "driven at a hardware level as opposed to software"?

    Makes no sense.

    BTW If you deduced all those specs I'd love to see your scratch work

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