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    Talking [Team.AU] Gigabyte EP45 EXTREME motherboard on test bench

    Hi guys

    Gigabyte sent over their new board yesterday for testing. This board is their EXTREME version of P45 chipset. We've worked with them on many aspects in terms of board design and bios design to improve the board for extreme overclocker and what better way to introduce an exclusive but to pop in here and show you guys what it's all about

    What am i planning to do

    First I will start with some photos........and in the following few days get into testing

    Second stage will be board bios and initial stock impressions (there is a fair bit more written on these board already from Gigabyte marketing material but i am not going to get into that...you can do some searches here and check those out. I will look at the actual final design board from user perspective)

    Third > air overclocking

    Forth > LN2 Insulation & overclocking



    Components i am planning to test with:

    Gigabyte EP45 EXTREME DDR2 Motherboard (rev1.0) STOCK BOARD NO MODS
    Intel Core2 Duo E8400 Q807A414 (PCB **3001)
    2GB DDR2 PC10000 CORSAIR DOMINATORS of course heheh
    1GB Gigabyte 9800GX2
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    Thermaltake Big Typhoon with 100CFM fan (AIR)
    kingpin F1 Extreme Edition Solid copper CPU LN2 Pot
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    160GB PATA
    Windows XP Pro 32bit & Vista Ultimate


    Things i already like about the board (since i asked for some of these personally and i'm sure many of other beta testers have)

    I LOVE THE COLOUR SCHEME >> this will get the haters revved up

    You will already notice some interesting inclusions with this board from hardware side of things. First of all they've changed the socket/PWM position from X48 range >> what does that mean to DICE/LN2 guys >> well in my experience you will have less condensation issues with socket design like this compared to their X48 range. Secondly i believe that this socket design provides a more stable power delivery as well which i will test in later stages

    Gigabyte engineers have finally included hardware overvoltage control IC (upgrade from GPIO control) >>> basically much smoother power >> less swing and substantially smaller voltage control (20mV) >>> when you're pushing a hell of a lot of volts and trying to find a sweet spot you are going to have much better control of volts than you would have in the past...phew....the best part is also that they have used this on all major components including CPU/RAM/NB..... Great Success > Borat

    You are getting an extreme board straight out of the box. No need for volt modding or any screwing around >> just insulate and way you go. What am i talking about >> Gigabyte engineers have removed OVP and gave us extremely good power delivery in small increments. We've got plenty of voltage options to kill any of these components instantly which is usually good enough for ppl that usually volt mod the board hahahahahaha

    Extra capacitors on the back of the board >> i like

    VERY GOOD cooling out of the box on NB >> I really don't like messing around with NB all that much and i usually just use whatever cooling provided from board manufacturers. This board certainly has very good cooling. The waterblock included has 3/8" holes per my request

    Power and reset buttons on the board (for 24/7 system also a reset button on the back of the board. There is also a debug LED >> i use a separate card and i find these inclusions will help troubleshooting which is what extreme cooling is all about

    There are a few other things i like but everyone's already fallen asleep so let's move onto things i think need an improvement and some suggestions for future designs from initial impressions.

    Bad battery placement. I raised this issue before and i was told by main engineer that battery placement was considered but lack of space on PCB with all these features they are including is forcing them to use this area for the battery >> now some will probably completely remove this heatsink for subzero so it won't matter but for others like me that will probably keep it there it may because a pain in the arse if there is a need to do a full cmos clear (I'll try to screw with the board and see if i can get away without usin the battery heheh >>> YOUNGPRO usually just takes the battery completely during benching hahahah so that's another thing you can do

    This is more of a future improvement suggestion >> going digital PWM will improve clearance area and possible even better power delivery for extreme guys ......that will be a welcome feature for sure

    PCI Express lanes >>> it's a real shame that this board is not a dual 16x PCI Express board so Xfire overclocking will take a small hit in points due to reduced bandwidth (i'm talking about marginal difference in scores on extreme overclocks....24/7 doesn't matter). How much of a hit it is? Well that needs to be tested (since i get no love from any ATI GFX card producers it won't be me doing that comparison heheheh.

    Enjoy

    p.s. this is the first time i've ever fired up my Photoshop elements so excuse my n00bness here
























    I killed my beloved E8500 on the weekend (drops a nerd tear) so i went and picked up a new CPU from the store >> i asked the guy for any Q807 chips and he pulls out this mother for me

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    WTH is with that monster heatsink over there?
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    everything is extreme including the heatsink
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    Dino, fix your first post, its waaaaaaaay too wide

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    you mean photos?
    they are set to sort images depending on the screen you have
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    dose that thing have 3 phase ram power, if so thats awesome
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    Nice piccies Dinos , better place them on top of eachother ( had to look at the neighbours monitor to see them all )

    Is that NB real copper or some painted stuff like Asus always does... looks like a nice board, built to perform... you, George, Bill and T_M prolly will beat the crap out of it...

    Good luck and looking forward to some mad results
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    Looks like a nice board. Too bad about the colours

    The optional cooling for the northbridge just attaches with that top plate bolted on ? Does it make much difference when used ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leeghoofd View Post
    Nice piccies Dinos , better place them on top of eachother ( had to look at the neighbours monitor to see them all )

    Is that NB real copper or some painted stuff like Asus always does... looks like a nice board, built to perform... you, George, Bill and T_M prolly will beat the crap out of it...

    Good luck and looking forward to some mad results
    Gigabyte always uses real copper in their high end boards
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockqc View Post
    Looks like a nice board. Too bad about the colours

    The optional cooling for the northbridge just attaches with that top plate bolted on ? Does it make much difference when used ?
    yeah you get thermal paste as well

    it's designed to take out the extra heat from NB but i don't know how effective it is

    i have certainly seen some crazy designs on their products like passive GFX 9600GT and i can tell you something this kind of design should work really well actually but until tested hard to be certain
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    looks delicious Dino..... can't wait for the result

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leeghoofd View Post
    Nice piccies Dinos , better place them on top of eachother ( had to look at the neighbours monitor to see them all )

    Is that NB real copper or some painted stuff like Asus always does... looks like a nice board, built to perform... you, George, Bill and T_M prolly will beat the crap out of it...

    Good luck and looking forward to some mad results
    I have no problems now on small 19"

    Quote Originally Posted by dinos22 View Post
    yeah you get thermal paste as well

    it's designed to take out the extra heat from NB but i don't know how effective it is

    i have certainly seen some crazy designs on their products like passive GFX 9600GT and i can tell you something this kind of design should work really well actually but until tested hard to be certain
    Im pretty sure it will work great.
    Havent seen any heat on it yet though.
    But it is the same system DFI has been using...

    Grats on the pic They look great
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    i've tested two different bios files so far F4a and F4f and i cannot get the board stable at 500MHz FSB

    ROFL
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    Quote Originally Posted by dinos22 View Post
    i've tested two different bios files so far F4a and F4f and i cannot get the board stable at 500MHz FSB

    ROFL
    Try the F3a.
    Use D2.66 devider.
    Give only more Vdimm and Vcore.
    Dont play with clock screw - Or we dident get anything out of it.

    That should give you +600 fsb superpi stable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nosfer@tu View Post
    Try the F3a.
    Use D2.66 devider.
    Give only more Vdimm and Vcore.
    Dont play with clock screw - Or we dident get anything out of it.

    That should give you +600 fsb superpi stable.
    DDR2 and DDR3 boards are a completely different cattle of fish
    with a ddr3 board i'd be past 600 easy
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    I wish gigabyte has a color scheme to differentiate its premium boards. Nevertheless its a great board.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nosfer@tu View Post
    Try the F3a.
    Use D2.66 devider.
    Give only more Vdimm and Vcore.
    Dont play with clock screw - Or we dident get anything out of it.

    That should give you +600 fsb superpi stable.
    Actually, use 2.00D and try a slight skew of 50ps
    Thats if you are using the DDR3 board

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    Quote Originally Posted by dinos22 View Post
    cattle of fish
    I believe the word you are looking for is kettle

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    Upgrading my friends PC, can't wait to see what this board/cpu/ram combo can do!

    Aiming for as close as possible to 600fsb, 1:1 1200Mhz ddr2
    talk about optimistic, that's what I posted in another thread yesterday.

    I'm real exited about this thread, exellent intro and photos dinos my man.
    Should be here in a couple'a'days.

    Dinos, in your mind what did you imagine this board capable of?
    I mean it's called EXTREME so it should really compete at the highest level right?
    Just look at all that copper
    Do you think an e8400 can or should hit 600fsb on air with this board?
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    if i don't hit 600 i will be disappointed put it that way
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    If you don't hit 600FSB I'll be disappointed too

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    I'll be disappointed 3

    Sadly this email just arrived from my supplier...
    Cosmos S due around 7-9 July. Gainward Video 3-5 July. Those will go to
    you when they arrive
    The rest has been sent today.


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