The Maximus Formula Thread - Help/OCing/Guide/Rampage conversion

[Rattle]

any tricks to running rampage bios? any benefits? the 1201 made me hugely unstable for whatever reason.

[Grnfinger]

1102 slight improvement

any tricks to running rampage bios? any benefits? the 1201 made me hugely unstable for whatever reason.

Rampage allows for better ram sub timing and increased bandwidth, boot time is up and imo overall has a "faster" feel to it.
I would recommend trying it , little to no effort switching from one to the other

[Rattle]

guess I am gonna go for it

[Rattle]

well the rampage flash worked, sweet

thanks for this thread

[By0T0xN]

1102 slight improvement

Hey Grnfinger, I see a small increase in bandwidth and it lowered latency a tad. I also noticed you were able to lower your timings a notch. You deffinitly attribute this to 1102? Are you able to eek out a little more on your 6700?

My problem with my Q6700 is I have a hard time getting it stable above 3.4 @ 1.31v. I'm sure if I took the time (and maybe a little help from you ) I could take it up to 3.6 like yours with some tweaking and a bios update (currently 907). But it just doesn't seem that these newer 6700 do 3.8 real easy. My VID is 1.27. Maybe you could give me a hand when I get a little extra time to frick with it?

[Vivi]

usually the native bios is best lol
im at 219, and there arent any issues

On the Asus website, if they say, "Memory capability enhanced".
this is what changes once you update the bios

Refresh Period (tREF) Goes from 16383T to a lower 3120T on your memory

This wil enhance memory BW by a littttle bit, but yea if you dont manually tweak your memory once you in windows updating should be fine

[Grnfinger]

Hey Grnfinger, I see a small increase in bandwidth and it lowered latency a tad. I also noticed you were able to lower your timings a notch. You deffinitly attribute this to 1102? Are you able to eek out a little more on your 6700?

My problem with my Q6700 is I have a hard time getting it stable above 3.4 @ 1.31v. I'm sure if I took the time (and maybe a little help from you ) I could take it up to 3.6 like yours with some tweaking and a bios update (currently 907). But it just doesn't seem that these newer 6700 do 3.8 real easy. My VID is 1.27. Maybe you could give me a hand when I get a little extra time to frick with it?

1102 is faster imo, boot time is much faster as well. I can lower timing where 1201 I would get a det dram hang if I drop'd timings.

Post your current bios setup and we can see if adjustments can be made.
I can hit 9x425 but I'm not happy with the amount of vcore

[By0T0xN]

Will do, but probably not until tonight. Got to go to work now.

[Nuckin_Futs]

I know this is an extreme OC tread and most OC for the max scores. However, at some point, some of US, (especially ME) want a blend of good OC, yet stable timings. The reality is, those few score numbers do not warrent the the loss of stability when it comes to editing. I dont concider gaming as big a deal because afterall, it's just a game, and unlike that big movie edit or photo edit, you can't often go back to the same level.

So with this, who here can confirm a stable daily BIOS w/ complete ACPI support of S3/S4 of either MF or RF?

[Grnfinger]

I know this is an extreme OC tread and most OC for the max scores. However, at some point, some of US, (especially ME) want a blend of good OC, yet stable timings. The reality is, those few score numbers do not warrent the the loss of stability when it comes to editing. I dont concider gaming as big a deal because afterall, it's just a game, and unlike that big movie edit or photo edit, you can't often go back to the same level.

So with this, who here can confirm a stable daily BIOS w/ complete ACPI support of S3/S4 of either MF or RF?

I use my rig 24/7 capping , encoding, ect...
ALL my settings are stable. I use S3 only and I have only had the video resume hang once with OCCT, and it was due to a lock up from ram timing.
Seems I cant use 4-4-4-12

I have tried to get it to hang again but I cannot, only if I repeat the setup that made OCCT crash and that is the only app that hangs.

So I backed off the ram speed to 1080 , changed timing to compensate and now I can run my Q6700 at 450x8 with 1080 ram 5-4-4-12 and OCCT no longer hangs when the monitor goes to power save.

I am currently trying S4 and S3/S4 combo and see how they work.
I have returned to a Maximus bios, 1102. I found 1201 a huge pos.

I can say this, Rampage is a better bios hands down. Boot time is much faster and its a superior bios in all respects. From ram timing to overall stability.

[By0T0xN]

Here are my bios settings you asked for Grnfinger. Not much to it, which is probably some of my problem. Wouldn't mind running @ 3.6. Don't think my ram can go to much further with out upping the voltage at current settings. Would love a little help if you can spare the time. Thanks.

Extreme Tweaker 
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual 
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO 
CPU Ratio Control : Manual 
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 425
FSB Strap to North Bridge : Auto
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 1133
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual 
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto 
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Auto
Ai Clock Twister : Auto
Transaction Booster : Auto

CPU Voltage : 1.33125v
CPU PLL Voltage : Auto
North Bridge Voltage : Auto
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : Auto
South Bridge Voltage : Auto
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : Auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : Auto

NB LED Selection : NB Volt 
SB LED Selection : SB Volt 
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt 
Voltiminder LED : Enabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled 
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled 

Advanced CPU Configuration 
CPU Ratio Control : Manual 
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
C1E Suppport : Disabled 
CPU TM Function : Disabled 
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled 
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled 
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled 


USB Configuration 
USB Functions: Enabled 
Legacy USB Support : Enabled 

[Grnfinger]

Here are my bios settings you asked for Grnfinger. Not much to it, which is probably some of my problem. Wouldn't mind running @ 3.6. Don't think my ram can go to much further with out upping the voltage at current settings. Would love a little help if you can spare the time. Thanks.

Extreme Tweaker 
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual 
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO 
CPU Ratio Control : Manual 
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 425
FSB Strap to North Bridge : Auto
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 1133
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual 
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto 
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Auto
Ai Clock Twister : Auto
Transaction Booster : Auto

CPU Voltage : 1.33125v
CPU PLL Voltage : Auto
North Bridge Voltage : Auto
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : Auto
South Bridge Voltage : Auto
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : Auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : Auto

NB LED Selection : NB Volt 
SB LED Selection : SB Volt 
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt 
Voltiminder LED : Enabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled 
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled 

Advanced CPU Configuration 
CPU Ratio Control : Manual 
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
C1E Suppport : Disabled 
CPU TM Function : Disabled 
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled 
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled 
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled 


USB Configuration 
USB Functions: Enabled 
Legacy USB Support : Enabled 

WOW alot of auto settings there

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 1081
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 4
RAS# Precharge : 4
RAS# ActivateTime : 12
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 35
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Disabled
Relax level 0

CPU Voltage : Set what you need here 1.40?
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.53
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

[By0T0xN]

And you are suggesting Bios 1102? I'm @ 907 right now. Haven't changed it due to it being rock solid right now. I'm Prime stable 24hr and I'm running two SMP clients w/affinity changer and one GPU client as well 24/7 no issues since the gpu client came out on the 19th.

[Grnfinger]

try 907, if your happy with it then leave it alone

[By0T0xN]

like your thinking,.. thanks.

[zlojack]

I'm thinking about flashing to RF 0403...
Is it better than 0308?

[Grnfinger]

I'm thinking about flashing to RF 0403...
Is it better than 0308?

imo yes it is the best so far

[zlojack]

imo yes it is the best so far

Alright...here we go then.

[Talbo]

I'm trying to flash my maximus to rampage but keep getting a 'unable to open rom file' error.... Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?

[Talbo]

Tried both iRF0308.rom and iRAMPAGE-ASUS-Formula-0308.rom.....! WTF?

[jdrom]

I'm trying to flash my maximus to rampage but keep getting a 'unable to open rom file' error.... Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?

Make sure your using one of the provided AFUDOS programs on the first page of this thread. Also follow the instructions as well so you use the proper switches on AFUDOS.

I'd rename the ROM file to something shorter too like RF0308.ROM.

[Talbo]

I got it to work with RF0403, but memory bandwidth is actually worse than the MF0907 bios I had on earlier!!!

[zlojack]

I got it to work with RF0403, but memory bandwidth is actually worse than the MF0907 bios I had on earlier!!!

Usually initially it is. Now comes the real tweaking with all the extra memory options.

[OVERK|LL]

I got it to work with RF0403, but memory bandwidth is actually worse than the MF0907 bios I had on earlier!!!

I had the same problem. Start playing with the PL.

[LifeOnMars]

Hey guys and gals, first post on this forum and looking for help and advice. I want to use this board for my first ever build with an e8400, along with 2x HD4850's. I'll also be using two hard drives in a RAID 0 configuration. Can anyone summarize -

- What is good memory for overclocking with this board? I wanna hit 4ghz on my E8400 if possible.
- Does RAID 0 work well on this board and is it a relatively easy process for a first time builder?
- What are the temperatures like on the board and is 4ghz possible with good air cooling?
- Any specific air cooling devices that fit easily on this board, are effective and will not involve removing anything would be great

Finally, thankyou in advance for any help I get