View Poll Results: Does LLC on the Rampage Formula cause idle instability with your 45nm CPU?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigslappy View Post
    RealTelstar :
    what does your board say the pcb was made at ?
    as i have 2 of these boards & they are different , even the box they were packaged in are different
    My board says pcb made in taiwan.
    Now is all mounted and is impossible for me to make a picture.

    The white sticker says taiwan too, but that means assembly and does not matter.
    I think most of the china-made pcb went to the american market. I'm curious about the russian guy above.

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    I just received my new Rampage Formula from Asus that they tested with a Q9450 and my BIOS settings and confirmed does not have the issue. It says PCB made in china. I am going to send my board back to them so they can perform testing on it. Right now I am swapping the boards and will report back how things go.
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    just got the email from asus that they shipped my 1st board that i RMA'ed fast turn-around they got it @ 9;00am wed & shipped today at 10;45am hopefully they sent a new board >> as the # 1 = PCI16 x slot was shorted
    I will report on what i get back

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    So far, LLC seems to be working on the new board!!! Unless I post back stating otherwise, you can assume it has continued to work perfectly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 003 View Post
    So far, LLC seems to be working on the new board!!! Unless I post back stating otherwise, you can assume it has continued to work perfectly.
    COOL ! let us know how it goes !

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    Quote Originally Posted by 003 View Post
    So far, LLC seems to be working on the new board!!! Unless I post back stating otherwise, you can assume it has continued to work perfectly.
    What bios did it have and what's the revision of the new board?
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    Bios is 0403, revision 1.00G, PCB made in china. Same as the old one. Still working so far, PC was on overnight. I am guessing that there must have been a bad batch of boards produced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 003 View Post
    Bios is 0403, revision 1.00G, PCB made in china. Same as the old one. Still working so far, PC was on overnight. I am guessing that there must have been a bad batch of boards produced.
    Tell me about it !

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    let us know how it goes, if it is good and stable, might need to rma mine as well.

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    Yes, still going strong. I am convinced there must have been a bad batch of boards.
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    i was hoping i didn't have to rma, lol, so what did you mention in the ticket? I don't want to be out of a comp for a week, waiting for the new mobo to arrive.

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    I got an advance RMA, they sent me the new board and I am sending mine to them now that I received their pretested board. Waiting to hear back now on where I should send mine. In the ticket, I would just mention that you have the LLC issue being experienced by a handful of users, maybe elaborate more.
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    turn around was Quick on my RMA (different reason but it might have been a LLc issue also but never got that far as the #1 PCI16 was shorted ) they shipped a board the next day after getting it .. will not know if it's a new board till next week >> FedX ground

    I didn't open a ticket i just called the RMA dept explained the problem .. if need the # just ask ....
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    Sheet ! turn around was SOO quick i didn't notice the board on my doorstep tonite ! .. Damn the wife didn't even tell me !
    NEW BOARD in the Retail box also ! WOOT and it's the newer version as it's the newer style box like the one i got from NewEgg last week but the serial # series is the 83 like the RMA board & bios .. the newegg board is a 84 series & the newer bios
    I guess i get to keep the cables,software,manuel,fan,poster from the RMA board also
    ..shipped direct from Fremont CA,The RMA center is in the East !
    Testing tomorrow & i also got my 8 gb's of G.Skill 8500 today also looks like a BUZI weekend ! will report later
    Last edited by bigslappy; 06-20-2008 at 11:16 PM.

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    how do you tell its the newer version?

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    As far as I know, you're supposed to send back the old board, and not keep the new software and such. Basically, you swap boards, but keep your old accessories. I had to sign an advance RMA form to get the board before sending mine, and I am getting nervous because the RMA person nor the tech support people are not responding to my e-mail on where to send my old board. It was never made clear where to send it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 003 View Post
    As far as I know, you're supposed to send back the old board, and not keep the new software and such. Basically, you swap boards, but keep your old accessories. I had to sign an advance RMA form to get the board before sending mine, and I am getting nervous because the RMA person nor the tech support people are not responding to my e-mail on where to send my old board. It was never made clear where to send it.
    NO >
    the email with my RMA# said explicatly to send the board & nothing else to the RMA center as they said any else sent with the board (software,cables,& manuels & the like )would not be returned when they shipped the board back from the RMA center. which was the case as they send the new board from Fremont, Ca (the US hdqts of Asus ) which is here in the Bay Area & I got it the next day

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigslappy View Post
    NO >
    the email with my RMA# said explicatly to send the board & nothing else to the RMA center as they said any else sent with the board (software,cables,& manuels & the like )would not be returned when they shipped the board back from the RMA center. which was the case as they send the new board from Fremont, Ca (the US hdqts of Asus ) which is here in the Bay Area & I got it the next day
    I think I worded what I said in a confusing way.

    I was under the impression that when you get the new board (and it comes with all the same as new retail), you take your old one, and put it in the box of the new one, and put the new one in the box of your old one so to speak, and then send back the new one, with the new accessories, because you still have everything from the old one.

    And can you possibly PM me the address to ship the board?

    I really need to clarify what I need to send back, because if I can keep all the new accessories and stuff that'd be great!
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    Quote Originally Posted by nunor View Post
    I have a P5E3 Premium and it's prime stable but when i open some sites or playing sometimes i get a BSOD/Reboot. I had to increase the vcore to avoid this. It seems that it's not only the rampage.
    I have also expierenced the very same issues as the Rampage Formula owners, but on a P5E3 Premium. I noticed it more when I was running 4x1GB memory. The description as to what people have been expierencing is exactly what other P5E3 Premium owners have been dealing with. The information about LLC has been very informative and helpful to others as well. Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Razmatazz View Post
    I have also expierenced the very same issues as the Rampage Formula owners, but on a P5E3 Premium. I noticed it more when I was running 4x1GB memory. The description as to what people have been expierencing is exactly what other P5E3 Premium owners have been dealing with. The information about LLC has been very informative and helpful to others as well. Thanks
    LCC=Auto seems to fix the problem here. Now i'm runing my Q9450 @ 3.2GHz 1.13v(load) and it doesn't reboot but if i set LCC to performance even with 1.22v it reboots immediately.
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    LLC = Auto usually means disabled.

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    This seems to be fixed with 0406, 1.3065 in bios, 1.288V real, no matter if under load or idle on my Q9450. To bad this bios have some nasty bug with 3rd party sata controlers, so its not for everyone...

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    Here's the moral of the story at the end...Provided that you have a good MB allowing you LLC with no BSOD and crash, go ahead and enjoy the LLC with the following conditions:

    1. Disable LLC - if you are a borderline overclocker with high CPU VID (having high vcore as maximum voltage under bios) because LLC tends to violate CPU VID going way over
    what you have set as a maximum vcore under bios without even you noticing it as it wouldn't show under CPU-Z or Everest. Intel provides about 1.36v as
    a maximum threshold, and if you set 1.4v (real voltage around 1.36) under bios, LLC will make it go higher feeding exccessive voltage to your CPU violating this
    Intel threshold. This is really stressing your cpu.

    2. Enable LLC - if your CPU VID is lower than (let's say) 1.3v. Even at its peak it's highly unlikely that excessive voltage would go higher than 1.36v. I would say the advantage of
    having this feature on is to supply stable power at load and bring down your idle voltage substantially.
    Last edited by dhc0329; 07-18-2008 at 01:18 AM.

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    bios 0406 seems good real good ( BUT not as many choices in setting ddr2 as ealier bios's ) everything else seems OK BUT the external raid issue (0406)it's bad let's hope they come up with a better one soon as i can only set ddr2 in 2 choices & niether is ddr2-1002 which is what i want for my GSkill's ddr2-1000's & i'm running CPU Voltage at lower then 1.3 soo i've never had the LLC issue

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