Biostar Tpower P45, 685.85fsb 45nm wr?

**dinos22** · 06-20-2008, 03:23 AM

Originally Posted by Slay0r

If the fsb goes high enough, you will have no issues with performance

that said, it seems like this biostar is pretty slick clock for clock, so what is your issue?

p.s. keep going pt1t and youngpro

well that kinda isn't what we all want

the board has to be reasonably fast at high FSB as it will be useless for benchmarking if you are like 1 minute slower in 32M Superpi than comparing boards

you will also take a hit in 3DMARK01, AM3, 3DMARK05, bit in '03 as well and this is what dual core FSB is needed for

ppl are mistaking FSB with performance or judge how good the boards are on it.............but FSB is only required because we have very low multiplier and need to reach those benchmarking speeds we require

air/water guys don't need this at all imo

**camouflage** · 06-20-2008, 03:25 AM

Originally Posted by Pt1t

send an J&W to compare .

I testes Pi 1M 500*8 5:6 , and i will add to this MIIF /DQ6 / ECS and MSI P45 board.

Nice - but You ran the P5Q3 Deluxe @ 5:8 (800MHz RAM)...........

**Slay0r** · 06-20-2008, 03:33 AM

Originally Posted by dinos22

well that kinda isn't what we all want

the board has to be reasonably fast at high FSB as it will be useless for benchmarking if you are like 1 minute slower in 32M Superpi than comparing boards

you will also take a hit in 3DMARK01, AM3, 3DMARK05, bit in '03 as well and this is what dual core FSB is needed for

ppl are mistaking FSB with performance or judge how good the boards are on it.............but FSB is only required because we have very low multiplier and need to reach those benchmarking speeds we require

air/water guys don't need this at all imo

Yeah i understand that man

I was just pointing out that this board doesn't seem to have very slacky strap latencies to allow the higher fsb at a loss of performance. Pi32m and some 3d will clear that up for us anyway

**cstkl1** · 06-20-2008, 04:06 AM

Originally Posted by Pt1t

when i tested asus board were not 1M stable to 600.

didnt somebody just primed 600fsb on the deluxe
and also posted a everest benchies for 600fsb tRD 10..

was sure it was in the intel thread forum

**dinos22** · 06-20-2008, 04:10 AM

doesn't mean they are all capable of that

**cstkl1** · 06-20-2008, 04:23 AM

Originally Posted by dinos22

doesn't mean they are all capable of that

true true
the p5q deluxe board i had..
was problematic with my team xtreem PC2-6400 Cl3's
out of the 4 sticks.. one wouldnt boot no matter what

the biostar however just flies with d9GMh's
oh yeah for 1200 5:6 so far noticed that have to use tRFC 42...
flies with all 4 sticks..
if not no go..on memtest86.. will fail test 4
love that part of the bios with inbuilt memtest86.
up to 500fsb
1:1 can go as low as tRFC 21.. no issue..

**kenofstephen** · 06-20-2008, 04:32 AM

To be fair, high FSB like this is superb and is what every ocer what to achieve.
because conventionally we expect higher performance when moving up for example from 400*10 to 500*8,
that's why I raised the concern from e.g. 480*10 to 600*8,
do we actually get some more better performance out of that?
that's the question that I would like to raise, and not to discredit the decent record.
I think I have to clarify this a bit.

**Monstru** · 06-20-2008, 04:33 AM

Nice FSB guys, we will see 700 soon. Now....time for someone to bench hard those new Asus P45 boards and put the "A" back in "Asus"

**Pt1t** · 06-20-2008, 04:39 AM

Originally Posted by Monstru

Nice FSB guys, we will see 700 soon. Now....time for someone to bench hard those new Asus P45 boards and put the "A" back in "Asus"

Wait ... what is 700 .... now pro is fighting for 750

**Gautam** · 06-20-2008, 04:47 AM

This is awesome James, on a single stage too! I'm so jealous.

**Monstru** · 06-20-2008, 04:53 AM

750.....that is insane....problem is.....now the need for really golden chips will much higher that with old boards, the limit will be the clock and not the FSB.....Let's see some Cedar Mill clocks on Wolfdales

**kenofstephen** · 06-20-2008, 04:57 AM

Originally Posted by Pt1t

Wait ... what is 700 .... now pro is fighting for 750

I bet it is not 0.5core/thread

**Oliver** · 06-20-2008, 05:05 AM

furthermore gem sticks monstru...

ddr3 and the p45 and wolf will get its pwr rls...

**Pt1t** · 06-20-2008, 05:18 AM

Originally Posted by Monstru

750.....that is insane....problem is.....now the need for really golden chips will much higher that with old boards, the limit will be the clock and not the FSB.....Let's see some Cedar Mill clocks on Wolfdales

he did 720