Hands-On Windows 7 Milestone 1

[Warboy]

can you compare win7 and vista with a big folder with a lot of images to thumbnail ?

You mean like overall look? or performance?

[gillll]

plain winrar ? compress and extract tests .

thanks

[Warboy]

plain winrar ? compress and extract tests .

thanks

I'll work on that.

[Warboy]

Sorry Guys I have to delay testing, My Vista Installtion is having issues that I need to fix, and I need to work on getting a bypass, Because I noticed there is something on Windows Updates for Windows 7 but Can't figure out what. And Hopefully I can get a GTX 280 soon to test it on.

[Lestat]

if you read the NFO when you downloaded it,, (its convenient that you make this post when M1 was just released on the usenets)
then you'd know that backing the bios clock to Dec '07 then using the activation crack will give you 6 months of play time with it...

but thats just what i heard...

[Spawne32]

Im still trying to figure out what we have learned here

[Spawne32]

lol i learned that windows 7 looks just like windows vista

[JMKS]

backing the bios clock to Dec '07 then using the activation crack will give you 6 months of play time with it...

but thats just what i heard...

It's not that easy unfortunately. The thing is - June 2008 is the end of this build, activated or not [unless cracked in different way]. It will allow only Internet Explorer etc. Date must be changed permanently.

ATM I have installed on 2 HDDs: 2x XP SP3, XP SP2, 2003, 2008 x64, 7 x86 and Ubuntu 8,04 x86 - is it normal?

In fact there are not many visual [not even mentioning non-visual] differences - I noticed transparency of maximized window [title bar; it was black in original Aero], so even more eye-candy . And no, I'm not impressed by new splash-screen .

My testing will be long-term - to run for a hundred or so hours without reboot, gaming, browsing internet etc [well, it's my only PC, so what can be expected ] and look if it is behaving "normal" [no RAM-eating, no BSODs etc], my typical usage of OS .

Win7 from start cached every single MB I have [3GB ATM], I hope it will distribute memory much better than Vista, because on Vista with prefetching it was really bad for me, Win2008 with prefetching disabled by default was OK .

[Spawne32]

all i want to know is how it manages the ram, because i tried running vista 64 on 2 gigs and it ran horrible, it used 100% of the ram and was using a swap file on the hdd, i dont think ive ever had such poor performance like that since windows ME

[just a noob]

is the 64 bit version of this going to be like the 64 bit version of xp and not support most games?

[PoppyLlama]

doesn't it kinda look...exactly like vista..?

[tiro_uspsss]

is the 64 bit version of this going to be like the 64 bit version of xp and not support most games?

lul wuh? which game doesnt run on xp64?

[Kingcarcas]

Turn off superfetch

Yup, my vLited version of Vista runs great and installs fast

[mikeyakame]

Milestone 1 is basically Vista with SP1 beta patches, proper EFI support, a 32bit colour loading screen, and a bunch of UI updates. There is nothing special about it as yet, Milestone 2 has a lot more internal changes. DirectX doesn't work in VMWare so couldn't test out Nvidia drivers. Memory use is about the same, I set up a VM with 2gb of ram.

The new Control Panel does look hell sexy though.

My 5c.

Edit:
When I get around to it I'll load it up in MS Virtual PC 2007 SP1 and see how DirectX performs in it.

[Jamesrt2004]

doesn't it kinda look...exactly like vista..?

Will do for a LOOOONG time

only doing core improvements atm..
eyecandy isn't as important as getting it to work tbh


milestone 2 when?? thought would be about now ?

[Warboy]

Milestone 1 is basically Vista with SP1 beta patches, proper EFI support, a 32bit colour loading screen, and a bunch of UI updates. There is nothing special about it as yet, Milestone 2 has a lot more internal changes. DirectX doesn't work in VMWare so couldn't test out Nvidia drivers. Memory use is about the same, I set up a VM with 2gb of ram.

The new Control Panel does look hell sexy though.

My 5c.

Edit:
When I get around to it I'll load it up in MS Virtual PC 2007 SP1 and see how DirectX performs in it.

Here is the Current Build list guys.

Pre-Milestone 1
Note: These builds are suspected, but not confirmed to be Windows 7 builds.
6.1.6410.0.fbl_refactor_dev(jschwart).070409-1035
6.1.6415.0.debuggers(dbg).070404-1234
6.1.6418.0.debuggers(dbg).070404-1255
6.1.6429.?.fbl_multimedia_media.070514-1730
6.1.6459.1.fbl_shell_dex.070826-1730
6.1.6469.1.fbl_find_dev.
6.1.6475.1.fbl_wlk_dtmse_11000.071108-1226
6.1.6499.1.fbl_security_bugfix(sepbld-s).071120-0135

Milestone 1
6.1.6518.1
6.1.6519.1.winmain.071220-1525
6.1.6522.0.winmain.071223-1309
6.1.6547.1
6.1.6568.1.winmain.080312-1858
6.1.6574.1

Milestone 2
?.?.6???.?.winmain_win7m2.0804?3-1??? from Paul Thurrott's photo This is one of the builds that were demonstrated on D6. Only part of the build number is known, as the corresponding photo is quite blurry. This is also the build in the multi-touch demo video.

M2 hasn't leaked yet, The One on Torrent Sites are fakes.

[Blauhung]

can you compare win7 and vista with a big folder with a lot of images to thumbnail ?

Yeah, i'd like to see that too. One of my current beef's with Vista is how it takes like 1-2 minutes to thumbnail my movie folder (about 2-300 GB of ripped DVD's). Takes about 5 seconds in XP.

[Clint]

Yeah, i'd like to see that too. One of my current beef's with Vista is how it takes like 1-2 minutes to thumbnail my movie folder (about 2-300 GB of ripped DVD's). Takes about 5 seconds in XP.

Well, that is related to the fact that all mediarelated files that are either copied or streamed will have to be checked bit by bit to ensure that there is no "unholy" files passing through. As of today the capability that the DRM mafia has within Vista is not even fully implemented, it WILL be worse. But then again, by that time the machines will be faster, and most importantly...you have all forgot how quick XP SP2 was at this.

I have tried Win7...and ofcourse it is the same NT that has grown from Win2K to XP and then via the DRM related addition of encryption capability in the Vista core to what we see today. Nothing new, same same NT. You will not see any lowered memoryusage or something in that area, it's here for stay.

[mikeyakame]

Yeah, i'd like to see that too. One of my current beef's with Vista is how it takes like 1-2 minutes to thumbnail my movie folder (about 2-300 GB of ripped DVD's). Takes about 5 seconds in XP.

Vista doesn't just thumbnail the video or photo, it reads the header of each file, in the case of video it uses which ever directshow codecs you have with highest priority to extract the video/audio information from each file. It retrieves resolution, video codec, bitrate, video/audio track lengths, etc...It's much more intense than XP, as why it takes so long. Don't delete your thumbnails with disk cleanup and it'll only do it every so often instead of every time!

It has to create a new graph, go through codecs and match them to the pins of the attaching codec....then read the file extract the headers and scan the video / audio streams...and then close a direct show graph for every single video file, as dshow graphs need to be recreated for each instance. that's a timely thing to do for 300gb !!!

Some codecs and splitters also can only have one instance open at any time, depends on which....so you can't always pthread the operations.

[gillll]

good answer mikeyakame thanks.