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    Had to RMA my MF SE about a month ago after half a year of abuse. Anyway, it had the RF bios 0403 on it. Asus replaced it no problems. I got back a MF SE Rev. 102G. So seems they have stock now. Took about two weeks though.

    In other news, I popped the IHS off my RF this afternoon. Had to use a razor blade from a shaving stick; bent one end and cut underneath the front end of the ihs, then blew hot air directly unto the heatsink while lifting the front end through the tiny hole with a mini screw driver. It popped after about 30 seconds. I'm watercooling cpu, nb, and sb on the same loop. My idle temp at 1.65v for the nb is 33c, everest stability load for 7 minutes was 35c for the nb. Insane! 2c difference between idle and load.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zucker2k View Post
    Had to RMA my MF SE about a month ago after half a year of abuse. Anyway, it had the RF bios 0403 on it. Asus replaced it no problems. I got back a MF SE Rev. 102G. So seems they have stock now. Took about two weeks though.

    In other news, I popped the IHS off my RF this afternoon. Had to use a razor blade from a shaving stick; bent one end and cut underneath the front end of the ihs, then blew hot air directly unto the heatsink while lifting the front end through the tiny hole with a mini screw driver. It popped after about 30 seconds. I'm watercooling cpu, nb, and sb on the same loop. My idle temp at 1.65v for the nb is 33c, everest stability load for 7 minutes was 35c for the nb. Insane! 2c difference between idle and load.
    this is good news on both accounts!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenEffect View Post
    this is good news on both accounts!
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    nice clock on that cpu
    so did removing the ihs help your fsb? you gotta hit that magic 500!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenEffect View Post
    nice clock on that cpu
    so did removing the ihs help your fsb? you gotta hit that magic 500!
    This was actually prior to removing it. I've been trying that 500 but this chip sucks. Anyway the voltage on that OC was high since LLC was enabled. I was playing around with it enabled to see if infact it affected stability as some have stated in the RF thread.

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    Removing chipset IHS certainly reduces some temps. It will only help FSB if max temp is holding you back at current cooling performance level.

    NOTE: If removing to replace OEM sink, do keep in mind the removed material differences (w/ IHS no longer there) and carefull when setting the 4 screws to keep it level. I would seat the actual NB and check to see the angle of the SB now and adjust if need be. I did have to barely, gently bend the pipe section of NB to SB to make it sit flush.
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    Is there a "special procedure" to flash back to a Maximus Formula BIOS from a Rampage BIOS on an MF board? For example, I'm currently running RF0403 and want to flash back to MF1201. Thanks...
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    Quote Originally Posted by NLight95 View Post
    Is there a "special procedure" to flash back to a Maximus Formula BIOS from a Rampage BIOS on an MF board? For example, I'm currently running RF0403 and want to flash back to MF1201. Thanks...
    Same procedure you used to flash to rampage in the first place.
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    jsut do it the same way to go to rampage. I prefer 1201, myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cadaveca View Post
    jsut do it the same way to go to rampage. I prefer 1201, myself.
    Can you, or anybody confirm if v201 complies to ACPI S3 and S4 alike, but mainly S3 "Sleep"?

    I am on BETA v1004 and it is OK to a point but I am recently getting more random DET_RAM issues on old resumes from S4. S3 has never worked for me on any profile since released (1004).

    What improvements does 1201 have over 1004? More spacifically on a 65nm dual core w/ 2x 1g RAM?
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    Guys, it's been awhile since the last time I went to this thread but anyway, I'm currently using 0907 and I recently have problem with the SCSI/RAID Host Controller, it seems I can't install the driver for this device and it keeps showing up everytime I boot into XP. Does the latest BIOS fix this problem and stable compare to others, what would be the best BIOS option now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NLight95 View Post
    Is there a "special procedure" to flash back to a Maximus Formula BIOS from a Rampage BIOS on an MF board? For example, I'm currently running RF0403 and want to flash back to MF1201. Thanks...
    Why do you want to flash back? I can't imagine being able to get the same memory bandwidth out of the Maximus BIOS that I am currently getting with the Rampage one.....
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    I realize most RF hacks are for benching scores, but has, or is, aanybody actually using an RF hacked BIOS as a daily user in full or partial ACPI modes to know if S3 & S4 actually work.
    Really peepz, what can it actually cost? 1 minute, 1 crash and reboot? Anybody hacking a BIOS or just testing for that max OC should is used to more then a few crashes and reboots by now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs View Post
    I realize most RF hacks are for benching scores, but has, or is, aanybody actually using an RF hacked BIOS as a daily user in full or partial ACPI modes to know if S3 & S4 actually work.
    Really peepz, what can it actually cost? 1 minute, 1 crash and reboot? Anybody hacking a BIOS or just testing for that max OC should is used to more then a few crashes and reboots by now.
    Mine isn't majorly overclocked (as you can see) but I am using the RF BIOS and it's my main computer. I have ZERO issues with it. I'm in Linux though, so I don't use S3 or S4. Sorry
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    give me a few minutes,Nucking F., I'll check it out for ya. I disable stand-by sleep modes in bios, so will ahve to enable, blah, blah, running VIsta 64 BTW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OVERK|LL View Post
    Mine isn't majorly overclocked (as you can see) but I am using the RF BIOS and it's my main computer. I have ZERO issues with it. I'm in Linux though, so I don't use S3 or S4. Sorry
    Interesting, I was wondering if anybody here OCd under Linux w/ this set up. How doe it perform, for daily stuff? are you using ICH9R in AHCI or RAID mode, so was it hard to locate the drivers to do a full install? I am curious, because I have Kubuntu x64 and was thinking of running a test bed to get to learn Linux as a 2nd OS.

    Quote Originally Posted by cadaveca View Post
    give me a few minutes,Nucking F., I'll check it out for ya. I disable stand-by sleep modes in bios, so will ahve to enable, blah, blah, running VIsta 64 BTW.
    XP & VISTA are ACPI complient OS so you have to at the very least enable ACPI but after that, it doesn't matter about S1 or S3 not being set since Windowsa can override all that and still work. It is the BIOS at this point that must comply though. The only thing you can choose is if you want Vista to only enter S3 v/s S1 (Stand By/Sleep but fans on).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs View Post
    I realize most RF hacks are for benching scores, but has, or is, aanybody actually using an RF hacked BIOS as a daily user in full or partial ACPI modes to know if S3 & S4 actually work.
    Really peepz, what can it actually cost? 1 minute, 1 crash and reboot? Anybody hacking a BIOS or just testing for that max OC should is used to more then a few crashes and reboots by now.
    I use S3 on RF 0308 and it works perfectly.

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    My NB gets really hot and the system starts to shutter in games around 445 FSB with my E8400 just wondering if anyone knows how I can fix this issue???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs View Post
    Interesting, I was wondering if anybody here OCd under Linux w/ this set up. How doe it perform, for daily stuff? are you using ICH9R in AHCI or RAID mode, so was it hard to locate the drivers to do a full install? I am curious, because I have Kubuntu x64 and was thinking of running a test bed to get to learn Linux as a 2nd OS.

    XP & VISTA are ACPI complient OS so you have to at the very least enable ACPI but after that, it doesn't matter about S1 or S3 not being set since Windowsa can override all that and still work. It is the BIOS at this point that must comply though. The only thing you can choose is if you want Vista to only enter S3 v/s S1 (Stand By/Sleep but fans on).
    I am using it in RAID mode, but with no RAID. It also functioned well under AHCI, though I think the RAID mode is actually slightly faster.

    This HDD with Gentoo on it is on it's 3rd different motherboard/CPU combo. I just make sure I compile support in the Kernel for all the extra stuff that is going to be on the new board before I do the switch and I have yet to have a problem. Unlike Windows, Linux doesn't have a hernia if you migrate hardware. It went from an 875 to a 945 to the X38 without issue.

    Performance is stellar, FAR better than the P4 3.2 it replaced, but Linux's SMP support is spectacular so I kind of expected that.

    I was having random lag issues with X, but that was related to an option in my xorg.conf file for the NVidia drivers and had nothing to do with the system. It has subsequently been rectified.

    You should have no problems installing Kubuntu.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs View Post
    Interesting, I was wondering if anybody here OCd under Linux w/ this set up. How doe it perform, for daily stuff? are you using ICH9R in AHCI or RAID mode, so was it hard to locate the drivers to do a full install? I am curious, because I have Kubuntu x64 and was thinking of running a test bed to get to learn Linux as a 2nd OS.

    XP & VISTA are ACPI complient OS so you have to at the very least enable ACPI but after that, it doesn't matter about S1 or S3 not being set since Windowsa can override all that and still work. It is the BIOS at this point that must comply though. The only thing you can choose is if you want Vista to only enter S3 v/s S1 (Stand By/Sleep but fans on).
    STill a bios issue, cannot get proper post after S3 sleep. Seems VGA post fails, board is awaiting result from gpu, gets none, and hangs.

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    Bios

    Hi all,

    what are your opinion on the latest bios version of the maximus formula.
    they are:

    1. 1102 2008/05/15 update
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    Description Maximus Formula 1102 Bios
    Fixed it can not enter the setup of some PCI-Express SATAII RAID Card

    or the

    2. Beta Version 1201 2008/05/04 update
    OS DOS / All OS
    Description Maximus Formula 1201 Bios
    Improve Memory compatibility

    at the moment i use 1004 and it's stable on 3.6 with my Q6600 and my OCZ PLATINUM REV 2.
    their is a better version their, that worth the update ?

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    1102 is the latest non-beta bios, 1201 is the latest bios and the latest beta bios.


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    There's a new stability test tool out, it is very very very efficient for quick stability testing; took me a few reboots to tune in my oc to a new level of stability. It's called System Stability Tester. Grab it here:

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    There are Linux and other OS variants too.

    Edit: Oh, this is better than OCCT, for ram.
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    My final config for 4Gb:

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