Quote Originally Posted by perkam View Post
There were no such claims ever made

The 4870 should give the 9800GTX a run for its money and the 4850 will do the same with the 8800GT Most of the 4850 naysayers would start a big debate if I mentioned 55nm and DX10.1, so, let's wait for actual reviews before making claims of lack of competition from ATI.

Perkam
You are correct that no one on this thread has made this claim, however if you read various threads across the web based on the specs the assumption was that they would be twice as fast as their current counter parts. I purchased 2 of the 3870's and I am running them in CF and I am trying to figure out whether I should take them back and get the new 4850/4870 instead. Since there are not any comparison tests yet, I have to speculate on the performance differences between the new cards and the current cards. I have until the end of the month so I still have plenty of time assuming there are no shortages of the cards.
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