Vision Tek 4850 review

[spicypixel]

Ordering out of the UK back into the UK got me stung for 20% Import Tax. For price comparisons do try to stick to UK stockists for a fair comparison

[LaMpiR]

What about ordering from USA to Europe? Is it safe? You can easily safe up to 20-30%

[y2kbos]

Ordering out of the UK back into the UK got me stung for 20% Import Tax. For price comparisons do try to stick to UK stockists for a fair comparison

Why on EARTH would there be import tax on graphics card that came to UK from the Germany?

Commom Market?

[Paddy007uk]

What about ordering from USA to Europe? Is it safe? You can easily safe up to 20-30%

You're still taking a chance even if you get an American mate to buy it for you & send it as a gift. I've got stung several times

UK customs =

[LaMpiR]

Dude, I live in Bosnia. Trust me, it worst... Here they take whatever they like. For example, my DDR2 that i my friend shipped my is just gone missing. I don't know what to do...

[adamsleath]

4850 these are going to be a nice option. introductory price of 250 aud...which i reckon means <200 bucks for a cheapy brand at some point in the future.
not to mention 3870's pricing...mm tasty pickings.
9800gtx vs 4850...hows that look? is it close in performance?
3d06 score makes me think 4850 is just an 8800gt.
...well, looking at yr crysis benches, the 4850 looks a bit better than my 8800gt with 4xAA@ high settings. ie 32 fps. ...and sub 20 fps with those settings on the gt i think @ 16x10. i remember that 16x12 @high in crysis XP was not playable for me with anything above 2xAA; more like 1280x1024 with 2xAA with gt for around 30fps.(21-35fps id say IIRC)

4850 vs 9800gtx vs 8800gt wood be interestink.

i hope the 4850 gets its arse tested off by the review sites.

[y2kbos]

You're still taking a chance even if you get an American mate to buy it for you & send it as a gift. I've got stung several times

UK customs =

USPS and Gift = good chance

[y2kbos]

What about ordering from USA to Europe? Is it safe? You can easily safe up to 20-30%

If you get it shippied with USPS, you may have a better chance.

If you find a site with good deals, that ship to Europe via USPS and accept European credit cards, will you pm me?

[Kai Robinson]

Mark it as a 'review sample' and i've never had a problem...and yeah, USPS > UPS/FedEx/DHL

DHL = Drop it, Hide it, Lose it anyway :p

And yeah, tax rates in germany aren't the same as they are here (17.5&#37; here as opposed to 19.6%) and the delivery cost would make up for any savings made on the purchase itself.

[Beefy22]

Your GTS wasn't $200

You can compare your GTS with the 4870 GDDR5, though

Perkam

fxvideocards (the store that supplied the test card) has a Zotac 8800gts (G92) for $147 + S/H after $40MIR
in stock too!

After MIR my GTS was ~$220 shipped and included crysis, a game which I have yet to play ... Though the 4850 OC'd might very well best my GTS(802core/2003shader/2248mem -> game/stress/bench stable @ 75% fan speed), The performance increase will IMHO be negligible and require replacing the stock single slot cooler. So we're already talking ~$200 for the card + ~$30-$60 for a decent after market cooler.

The 4850 is best for the budget oriented performance gamer who has not already bought and enjoyed an 8800GT(S) or 3870. Though I hope the 4870 and 4870x2 offer much more in terms of real world FPS(DX9 included as all games I still play are Dx9). For 4870x2 I pray there's no bridge chip and the shared memory is indeed a reality.

[perkam]

Google = your friend

9600gt £73

http://www1.hardwareversand.de/3/art...20565&agid=554

HD3870 DDR3 £82

^^^^^^^^^^

( 2 X them = HD4850 introductory price )

http://www.pixmania.co.uk/uk/uk/1176...2-mb-ddr3.html

HD3870 DDR4 £94

http://www.pixmania.co.uk/uk/uk/6557...2-mb-ddr4.html

8800gts £123

http://www.abtron.de/shop/catalog/pr...ducts_id=16737

9800gtx £155

http://www.abtron.de/shop/catalog/pr...ducts_id=16966

HD3870X2 £208

http://www1.hardwareversand.de/3/art...1656&agid=1004

Shipping with those sites vary between £7 - £20

9600gt sli/ HD3870 crossfire vs HD4850 benches please?

Wow, It's funny how far you're willing to take this since most Nvidia users are busy trying to convince me that the 9800GX2 is a better buy than a GTX 280 because its much cheaper

The 4850 is a nex gen card, and its performance will improve lots over the next few months as drivers mature

Perkam

[BRiT]

The 4850 is a nex gen card, and its performance will improve lots over the next few months as drivers mature

Exactly how different is it from the existing RV670 line (3850/3870)? It seems to be using the same technology except in greater numbers -- more ALUs and TMUs. I doubt there will be massive performance improvements to be had.

[perkam]

Exactly how different is it from the existing RV670 line (3850/3870)? It seems to be using the same technology except in greater numbers -- more ALUs and TMUs. I doubt there will be massive performance improvements to be had.

Let's wait and see

Perkam

[zerazax]

Exactly how different is it from the existing RV670 line (3850/3870)? It seems to be using the same technology except in greater numbers -- more ALUs and TMUs. I doubt there will be massive performance improvements to be had.

Same could be said about the GT200 and there are definitely performance improvements

[Utnorris]

In the review, I didn't see a 3DMark06 score, only 3DMark Vantage. I only ask since it is an easy way to compare to cards that have already been reviewed or to cards that someone already owns, but doesn't have Crysis. Did I miss it or will it not be tested using 3DMark06?

Thanks,

Utnorris

Edit: NVM, I must be getting old since I missed it the first couple of times looking through the charts.

[godsfist]

So where would this card be placed in relation to an 8800GT, 8800GTS & 9800GTX

[Mechromancer]

Thats an impressive score. I can't wait to see what the 4870 and 4870X2 can do.

[Mechromancer]

So where would this card be placed in relation to an 8800GT, 8800GTS & 9800GTS

I think its as fast or faster than a 9800GTX according to those numbers.

[godsfist]

I think its as fast or faster than a 9800GTX according to those numbers.

Interesting... cheapest 9800GTX in Australia is $330, the first HD4850 was just listed at $249 and should drop significantly more over the next month

That's some serious bang for buck

[chri5g]

Thats an impressive score. I can't wait to see what the 4870 and 4870X2 can do.

What is impressive performance like 8800GT and 8-9&#37; higher.It`s very impressive
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=4979799
and his CPU scored more than my E8400@4.32

lock at
SM 2.0 Score and SM 3.0 Score
G92 is 8 months in market since november 2007
Do you play Marks or GAMES? in games is real performance!!

[zerazax]

you can't compare 3dmark scors across differnet platforms and come with any real conclusion

Anyways, new version of GPU-Z is out, can you get us a new shot jiimyz?

[Utnorris]

Granted, you cannot really compare one system that has a q6600 with another system that has a q9300, but you can still get some idea of whether or not the claims that have been made that these new generation chips are going to be twice as good as the current generation. Since this is the first legit review that I have seen so far, I am trying to get an idea of how valid the claims of being twice as good really are. That's all.
Thanks,
Utnorris

[Eastcoasthandle]

Granted, you cannot really compare one system that has a q6600 with another system that has a q9300, but you can still get some idea of whether or not the claims that have been made that these new generation chips are going to be twice as good as the current generation. Since this is the first legit review that I have seen so far, I am trying to get an idea of how valid the claims of being twice as good really are. That's all.
Thanks,
Utnorris

In this case, no you cannot. He's overclocked his GT along with is CPU which makes this comparison null and void.

[chri5g]

you can't compare 3dmark scors across differnet platforms and come with any real conclusion

Anyways, new version of GPU-Z is out, can you get us a new shot jiimyz?

What is faster QX 9650 @4Ghz or E8400@4,32Ghz in 3dmark??
answer QX9650@4Ghz
any conclusion now
CPU SCORE
QX 9650 =5789
E8400= 4019
compare GPU score

[Utnorris]

So then the claim that the 4850 would be twice as good as the 3850 or the 4870 would be twice as good as the 3870 is not a valid claim, correct?

Utnorris