Asus P5E3 Premium Wi-fi-AP

[barfastic]

hey guys, i recently got this board and last night installed it and everything, but i cant seem to get it to post.

Ive connected all the power cables, ram, cpu, 2 hd3870x2's (in crossfire) and de nada, it turns on, fans go about spinning, fan bay devices on, but no beeps or anything, and on my bottom gfx card, there is a red led on (no idea what that is).

ive done all the suggested maneuvers to reset the bios (cause on my previous p5e3 deluxe wifi, it wouldn't show anything on the screen because of the express gate and some sort of error with 3870x2's).

1 replace jumper on rtc with psu plug not on, put jumper back to original spot
2. replace jumper and remove cmos battery without psu cable plugged in, and put bat and jumper back in original positions

im using 2gb of Corsair Ram DDR3 1600C7DHXIN G (9-9-9-24 stock timings)

and yeah im stuck, cant get it to beep or post, or even show me anything...
problem is that its siting on a tri-loop watercooling system, and its gonna be the biggest PITA to drain all the loops, replace fill, re leak test everything.

Anyone else have similar problems?
Id take it to the store, but god knows what they'll do me beautiful mm cube
any advice or help would be greatly appreciated

[BenchZowner]

3/3, that's a good sign.
Let's see if it's a "widespread" thing.
If it is, I bet we'll see the fix soon for every X48 board.

[dood001]

You guys might want to try the latest Beta BIOS v0503.
Click to download

Thanks for this, BenchZowner. I am a bit of a noob but having fun and enjoying the challenge! Certainly some interesting options in the DRAM Skew menu. I am running this BIOS now but didnt notice any differences regarding stability (on auto) so I did a test.

Following is an extract of a post I made at the ASUS community forum:

START

P5E3 Premium Wifi, BIOS 0503.
Intel Xeon X3360.
Windows Vista Ultimate 32bit.
Thermalright ultra 120 eXtreme HSF with 2xCoolermaster Silent case fans in push-pull.
2x1G Corsair Dominator 1800C7DFIN, 7-7-7-20-1N, with Corsair Dominator Airflow fans.
2x150G WD Raptors, non-raid.
Corsair TX750 Power Supply, 140mm cooling/exhaust fan integrated.
MSI 8800GT OC graphics card, in the bottom blue slot.
Thermaltake Armor+ Case, 1x140mm front intake fan, 1x200mm side intake fan, 1x120mm middle fan, 1x120mm exhaust fan.

I had some time today to play around with the 0503 BIOS.
I still could not get my system Prime95 "In-place Large FFTs" stable during overclocking using this BIOS. The In-place Large FFTs test is the best I have found to find holes in my setup. I would always get errors in less than 10mins on this and previous BIOSs.

I decided to take some temperature readings using a multimeter and a temperature probe. I slid the probe between the fins of the northbridge heatsink, under and to the right of the ASUS logo, and pushed it in so it was touching the flat surface of the northbridge. I set my system to 8.5x450 (3825MHz). Maximum multiplier for the X3360, and 450 FSB to get the 1800MHz memory speed. I then fired up Prime95 In-place Large FFTs. I got errors after 8mins. The temperature of the northbridge heatsink reached 51 C, ambient temperature was 21 C.

I decided to try cooling the northbridge down a tad and see what happens. I placed a 120mmx25mm fan between the 8800GT and the HSF, so that it was angled at the northbride heatsink arrangement. I fired up Prime95 In-place Large FFTs and took a temperature reading, 39 C.

The best thing is that Prime95 In-place Large FFTs has been running for 1 hour now and still going. The northbridge heatsink temperature is staying at 39 C.

BIOS 0503 settings, all auto except the following:

Ai Overclock Tuner - Manual
CPU Ratio - 8.5
FSB - 450
PCIE Freq - 105
DRAM Freq - 1800
DRAM Command rate - 1N
DRAM Timing - Manual
7
7
7
20
CPU Voltage - 1.41250 (1.368 idle, 1.320 full load in Prime95)
CPU PLL - 1.70
FSB Term - 1.38
DRAM Voltage - 2.02
NB Voltage - 1.51
CPU SS - Disabled
PCIE SS - Disabled

C1E Support - Disabled
Vanderpool - Disabled

Memory Remap - Disabled

END



I stopped Prime95 after 1hour and 17mins. I realize this amount of time does not constitute stability but it's a big improvement on my previous efforts.

And here is a screenie:

[barfastic]

ok so more news, i tried placing the ram modules into different slots, both single and both ram modules, nothing, no beep, no nothing.

then i tried booting with no ram on, still nothing, shouldnt it of beeped with no ram in it?

[voodo]

Make sure your cpu is working. Test it on another motherboard. Try and boot up with no video card or memory just cpu installed. Make sure your speaker is connected. If your get no beeps you have a defected motherboard.

[voodo]

I once bought an expensive TV set. Got it home. Hook it up and didnt turn on. I was mad. I call the guy that sold it to me. He was nice. He ask me if i had read the manual. I said yes. He came over after work to help me out. I had forgotten to plug it in He show me in the manual where it said that this was important.

[nunor]

I can't pass the 400fsb.. tried to play with voltages and other settings but nothing! Always errors in Large FFTs in less than 10 mins. Other curious thing, i run prime for 12 hours 400*8 (3.2GHz) stable @ 1.20v and if i open this site (tvtuga . com) with any browser except IE my pc just reboots. With vcore 1.24v it doesn't reboot anymore. wtf is this? that site stress more in 5 secs than prime in 10 hours? :\

I have a Q9450 & P5E3 Premium. Help pls :s

[SoulsCollective]

I'm finding the best stability test for my Q9450 / P5E3 combo is 3DMark06 "Return to Proxycon" (the first SM2 test and the first test in the series). In order to get 400FSB stable I've got everything at auto except RAM (set to 7-7-7-20 1T {start with 2T as not all RAM will be able to do 1T} Strong {again, start with Lightest as not all RAM will be able to do more} and PL 6) and some voltages - NB at 1.36v, vCore at 1.265v, vPLL at 1.6v and vFSB at 1.2.

hey guys, i recently got this board and last night installed it and everything, but i cant seem to get it to post.
*snip*

I'm running the same RAM and aren't having any problems. However, I originally bought two kits for 4*1GB, and one of my kits was dead (now off for RMA), meaning when I first dropped in all four sticks I was having the same issues as you. Perhaps it's simply a bad kit?

Edit: just for an FYI the stock timings are 7-7-7-20, not 9-9-9-24.

[barfastic]

i tried with some other asus brand ram modules, that i know work, and de nada.

Also, in the manual it shows where the speaker is, but i cant seem to find if i personally have to connect it, on my p5e3 deluxe, i didnt have to, it was up and running.

is it that connector where you put the power button wires onto, and ide leds, reset button etc?

Im trying to figure out what is wrong, cause this whole new system set me back a few thousand euros, and id hate to see it take the long road downhill to destruction. (aka my little brother, i give him my old pcs)

[SoulsCollective]

i tried with some other asus brand ram modules, that i know work, and de nada.

I take it by "de nada" you mean it doesn't work with your known good RAM? RMA time.

Also, in the manual it shows where the speaker is, but i cant seem to find if i personally have to connect it, on my p5e3 deluxe, i didnt have to, it was up and running.

I don't think the board has an onboard speaker. The header is above and to the right of the battery.

EDIT: WAIT A SECOND! I just saw this in your above post -

and on my bottom gfx card, there is a red led on (no idea what that is).

That red LED means that that card isn't plugged in properly - try re-seating your card and see if it boots.

[barfastic]

no no no, the red led isnt on the motherboard, its on the actual graphics card.

So your saying for the mobo to beep, i need to connect a cable or no?
what are the chances of my cpu being shot?
god i hate this

[SoulsCollective]

Bugger, thought we might have an easy fix there.

Definitely something isn't right if it isn't POSTing at default settings. Now you need to start the process of elimination to see where exactly the problem lies - you've ruled out RAM, which leaves CPU or mobo or PSU. Can you try another LGA775 CPU in your board to check?

[dood001]

So your saying for the mobo to beep, i need to connect a cable or no?

The P5E3 Premium WiFi AP@n does not have a speaker installed on the board. You will need to connect a cable.


Just a thought, you have installed the CPU heatsink? Others have put their system together to test, without a CPU heatsink, and have found that it will not POST.

[soapman72]

Can anyone list any 2x2gb ram that is known to work in this board with little or no problems? When I say WORK, I mean at rated timings and speeds. I am specifically looking for 1600mhz or faster. My setup just started locking up on Friday, and I traced it back to memtest errors. Trouble is, my OCZ EB Platinum kit is rated for 7-6-6-24 timings which are impossible in this and 2 other P5E3 Premium boards I have tried them in. I also tried 7-7-6-24 but no go. A tech from OCZ had me settle on 7-7-7-20, which worked fine foe a few weeks, but now is throwing errors on memtest86 (test#4). I backed off further to 7-7-7-24, and the errors seem to have stopped. I am not optimistic as I have been in this situation before with this memory. The kit will work at a given set of timings for a while, but eventually, the computer will start acting flakey, and sure enough, when I test for errors with memtest, there will be some.

Anybody else experianced this. Ideas? I either need to dump this memory, or the board so I can enjoy my new computer without having to run test, after test, after test, even after I found a seemingly stable overclock.

[Razmatazz]

Getting FSB above 400 tips?

Default 400 MHz with QX9770
I relaxed memory timings and decreased cpu multiplier
As I get around 420 MHz I get prime95 errors within minutes
I had increased CPU voltage to 1.36 to make sure this wasn't the issue.
I haven't adjusted CPU pll or FSB term voltages as I'm not sure exactly what they do or what is safe.
Are these needed in order to up the FSB?
If so, could someone make a recomendation as to settings?
Am I missing anything else? Thanks

[SoulsCollective]

FSB term needs to be raised above stock, as does PLL. I'd suggest trying 1.2 for FSB and 1.6 for PLL, you'll definitely need to play with these to raise FSB. It might also be worth having a look at the RAM skew values as you push higher; see this post over at the OCZ forums.

[Telo]

Can anyone list any 2x2gb ram that is known to work in this board with little or no problems? When I say WORK, I mean at rated timings and speeds. I am specifically looking for 1600mhz or faster. My setup just started locking up on Friday, and I traced it back to memtest errors. Trouble is, my OCZ EB Platinum kit is rated for 7-6-6-24 timings which are impossible in this and 2 other P5E3 Premium boards I have tried them in. I also tried 7-7-6-24 but no go. A tech from OCZ had me settle on 7-7-7-20, which worked fine foe a few weeks, but now is throwing errors on memtest86 (test#4). I backed off further to 7-7-7-24, and the errors seem to have stopped. I am not optimistic as I have been in this situation before with this memory. The kit will work at a given set of timings for a while, but eventually, the computer will start acting flakey, and sure enough, when I test for errors with memtest, there will be some.

Anybody else experianced this. Ideas? I either need to dump this memory, or the board so I can enjoy my new computer without having to run test, after test, after test, even after I found a seemingly stable overclock.

I'm pretty sure the Corsair Dominators work just fine on this board, even in the 2GB variety.
As far as the MemTest, my OCZA RAM was throwing off errors left and right until I tested it with the default settings [ 1800Mhz at 8-8-8-24 with 1.95v for me]. You might want to test them at their rated specs.

[barfastic]

the cpu is liquid cooled, i got a dtek fuzion on the cpu. i've tried re-seating it, in case it didnt contact properly, thermal paste seemed fine both times., i also re applied the gpu waterblocks, mosfet and chipset blocks and still it wont post.

about retrying parts. the only other cpu i have is a amd athlon fx 64, go go buy a celeron?
the psu is a modular thermaltake 1500w, but the strange thing is that it has 2 8 pin mobo power cords (but on the baord there is only 1 above and to the left of the cpu. ive tried with both cables and it still doesnt work. but if it was the cpu wouldnt it not start at all? i mean, everything seems like its getting power, fans attached to the mobo headers, etc...

im afraid its the mobo damn it, and what sucks is that ive removed the stock heatsinks to put on the waterblocks, and im not sure i can get an RMA, id have to find 4 push pins that fit the stock cooling sinks :S

what about sata drives? could that be a problem? i have 4 hdds, and a dvd burner connected, from sata1 - sata5. But not in a particular order (i doubt its this ive never had this sort of problem due to placement of hdd's and dvd's).

ugh my brain is MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELTING

[Telo]

no no no, the red led isnt on the motherboard, its on the actual graphics card.

So your saying for the mobo to beep, i need to connect a cable or no?
what are the chances of my cpu being shot?
god i hate this

Quick question, where are you plugging in your monitor cable? When I connected both of my HD2990XTs, it would show me the post with the cable connected to the left port on the top card, but the it would go black; I found out that then the signal would switch to the bottom card's left port. You should try either removing one of the cards or plugging in the monitor cable on all the ports [one at a time of course].

[barfastic]

ive tried that Telo and with 3 different monitors. my current one Viewsonic 21inch, a iiyama crt one, and then i was like hmmmm maybe the crt is bust from old age or something, cause it has been moved to over 6 different houses in its life. and the last one was my office monitor a Eizo 17" lcd.

Im trying to figure out where the speaker is, or what i gotta do to make it work.
my psu has a 4 pin connector at the end of every molex attachment. i tried connecting that to that little bridge they give you to connect the power button wires, power led, reset button cables etc.

im running out of options here as it seems.

[dood001]

Im trying to figure out where the speaker is, or what i gotta do to make it work.
my psu has a 4 pin connector at the end of every molex attachment. i tried connecting that to that little bridge they give you to connect the power button wires, power led, reset button cables etc.

That 4-pin connector is the power for a floppy disk drive....

[soapman72]

I'm pretty sure the Corsair Dominators work just fine on this board, even in the 2GB variety.
As far as the MemTest, my OCZA RAM was throwing off errors left and right until I tested it with the default settings [ 1800Mhz at 8-8-8-24 with 1.95v for me]. You might want to test them at their rated specs.

I appreciate the tips. For the record, I have tried running the ram at rated specs. THIS particular kit won't come close. My previous kit would run at rated timings for acouple of weeks, then I started getting errors. I have tried every possible combination of voltages, gtl, skew imaginable.

If I drop the multiplyer on the CPU, the problems are still there. Problems are definately memory related. Could these boards really dislike this memory that much?

[Telo]

I appreciate the tips. For the record, I have tried running the ram at rated specs. THIS particular kit won't come close. My previous kit would run at rated timings for acouple of weeks, then I started getting errors. I have tried every possible combination of voltages, gtl, skew imaginable.

If I drop the multiplyer on the CPU, the problems are still there. Problems are definately memory related. Could these boards really dislike this memory that much?

That board will allow you to set your RAM to it's rated SPEC, it just will not allow you to boot into Windows with it. That will give you a chance to run MemTest and verify if the sticks are bad. I did it after all of them failed at 1600Mhz I knew all 4 sticks couldn't possibly be bad.

[Razmatazz]

Has anyone had a chance to "dial in" their clock skews on this board? I've not been able to dial them in as I would have anticipated.

[soapman72]

Has anyone had a chance to "dial in" their clock skews on this board? I've not been able to dial them in as I would have anticipated.

I have tried every clock skew from 50ps delay all the way to 300ps delay. This did not help me at all. I also tried advancing the clock skew, but that only made more errors when testing.