Foxconn Quantum Force Black Ops X48 OC Guide (56k Warning)

[Telo]

If you guys are having issues with the board. I suggest you post on the Quantum Force forums that way they can get the Bios Developer to fix it. I had the same issue with the CPU-Z showing something different. Its a multiplier issue in the bios as far as I know. Try disabling the 1/2 multis and it should go away.

I posted on the Foxconn forum last week... you want to know what I got from it so far? 50+ views of the thread and no replies whatsoever.

[ceevee]

I posted on the Foxconn forum last week... you want to know what I got from it so far? 50+ views of the thread and no replies whatsoever.

Yep its like the lights are on but no one is home at Foxconn.

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If anyone in the community here knows people at Foxconn please ask them to come and read this thread.

[Telo]

Yep its like the lights are on but no one is home at Foxconn.

Cee, go read what I posted on the retail version thread; you'll get a kick out of it.
Here: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=187156

[Telo]

I feel bad for you Cee, you spent $1,500 on a CPU, over $1,000 on RAM and God only knows what kind of GPUs your system is packing and this POS board won't even get off its @$$ and work.

[ceevee]

I feel bad for you Cee, you spent $1,500 on a CPU, over $1,000 on RAM and God only knows what kind of GPUs your system is packing and this POS board won't even get off its @$$ and work.

Actually I really wanted a 790i but didn't buy it because of some of the issues that users had experienced. Ironically a 790i would probably have been a walk in the park compared to this Blackops. (at least it would have posted!) Having to swap in 1GB sticks to even get a post is ridiculous.

Anyway with the recent fix of the corruption issues, I am probably going to switch to 790i.

[Telo]

Yeah I will never purchase another Foxconn product of any kind ever again.

Actually I really wanted a 790i but didn't buy it because of some of the issues that users had experienced. Ironically a 790i would probably have been a walk in the park compared to this Blackops. (at least it would have posted!) Having to swap in 1GB sticks to even get a post is ridiculous.

Anyway with the recent fix of the corruption issues, I am probably going to switch to 790i.

I'm 90% sure that I will return to my previous board [ASUS P5E3 Premium], worst case scenario, I can OC the PC up to 400FSB and it WILL allow me to run all 4 sticks at 6-6-6-18-2T. Only reason I left that board was actual physical defects [short in a RAM slot, power switch jumper was malfunctioning, Express gate was missing {BTW 3 cases on 3 different boards}], not poor BIOS coding. I'm bound to get a 100% solid board even if I got to return 100 of them.

[gmcg]

IMO Foxconn BlackOps is over-stabilized to get the best results for OC at sub-zero temps. It is designed for benching, not for normal operations (as we know, air cooling of NB or water cooling with copper-aluminum design is a joke).

I could run qx9650 with 1.392V rock-stable on 780i at 4.2GHz, and for the same stability I have to apply 1.45V WITH Vdroop compensation enabled! on BlackOps for the same CPU and the same 4.2GHz.
I had been able to run 460MHz FSB with the same QX9650 on 790i (unfortunately, te motherboard was not prime-stable), on BlackOps I can run 420 FSB stable with safe voltages, not crazy ones, posted by Cpt. Planet in his overclocking guide.

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...spx?i=3156&p=6

Our recommendation is never to exceed the manufacturer's maximum specified voltage. With that said, values in excess of ~2.2V with DDR3 are a death sentence.

The following are the timings I am running on my ram at 1800MHz 2.2v [-as we can see in BIOS picture, it is 2.21V actually] and a few have run up to almost 2000MHz with similar settings.

1.81V CPU Vcore (according to a BIOS picture) for 4.278 GHz on CPU 24/7? That is insane!

If you guys want to sell Foxconn products, you need to make your forum active with professional responses and provide some REAL OC guides, not something like this ...

[Planet]

IMO Foxconn BlackOps is over-stabilized to get the best results for OC at sub-zero temps. It is designed for benching, not for normal operations (as we know, air cooling of NB or water cooling with copper-aluminum design is a joke).

I could run qx9650 with 1.392V rock-stable on 780i, and for the same stability I have to apply 1.45V WITH Vdroop compensation enabled! on BlackOps for the same CPU. I had been able to run 460MHz FSB with the same QX9650 on 790i (unfortunately, te motherboard was not prime-stable), on BlackOps I can run 420 FSB stable with safe voltages, not crazy ones, posted by Cpt. Planet in his overclocking guide.

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...spx?i=3156&p=6


1.81V Vcore (according to a BIOS picture) for 4.278 GHz on CPU 24/7? That is insane!

Reread the section there. I said the bios is reporting the wrong voltages for my board because its a ES board running a retail bios. I run under 1.5 daily check out the voltage section.

[gmcg]

Reread the section there. I said the bios is reporting the wrong voltages for my board because its a ES board running a retail bios. I run under 1.5 daily check out the voltage section.

Well, we all bought the board with RETAIL BIOS ...

[Planet]

Well, we all bought the board with RETAIL BIOS ...

There's nothing different just simply the voltage is reported wrong with my board.

[Nosfer@tu]

IMO Foxconn BlackOps is over-stabilized to get the best results for OC at sub-zero temps. It is designed for benching, not for normal operations (as we know, air cooling of NB or water cooling with copper-aluminum design is a joke).

I could run qx9650 with 1.392V rock-stable on 780i at 4.2GHz, and for the same stability I have to apply 1.45V WITH Vdroop compensation enabled! on BlackOps for the same CPU and the same 4.2GHz.
I had been able to run 460MHz FSB with the same QX9650 on 790i (unfortunately, te motherboard was not prime-stable), on BlackOps I can run 420 FSB stable with safe voltages, not crazy ones, posted by Cpt. Planet in his overclocking guide.

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...spx?i=3156&p=6


1.81V CPU Vcore (according to a BIOS picture) for 4.278 GHz on CPU 24/7? That is insane!

If you guys want to sell Foxconn products, you need to make your forum active with professional responses and provide some REAL OC guides, not something like this ...

Nobody here works for Foxconn dude!
Be happy he bothered helping you out with a guide ?

Give us some REAL comparison here ? So you cant run 460 fsb with a Quard on the Blackops
Set your bios better dude It is EASY.

Why is air and water cooling a Joke ? I dont get that ? Ever heard of anti corrosion ?
Why did you buy the board then ?

Well, we all bought the board with RETAIL BIOS ...

If that is the biggest problem, Maybe you should by an Asus board

ALL new boards have issues in the biginning!

Be happy with your new board, And show us some results ?

[ceevee]

If Foxconn really wanted to break into the enthusiast market they sure have done a bad job of it.

If they had a representative who would read and respond either here or on their forums, and let us know how they are fixing the massive massive problems with the Blackops it would go a long way towards creating goodwill.

At this point I would say from reading here and other overclocking forums they are starting to get a pretty bad reputation based on this product. There are a lot of people having fundamental problems with this board even working at all and all we get from Foxconn is silence.

[Nosfer@tu]

Actually I really wanted a 790i but didn't buy it because of some of the issues that users had experienced. Ironically a 790i would probably have been a walk in the park compared to this Blackops. (at least it would have posted!) Having to swap in 1GB sticks to even get a post is ridiculous.

Anyway with the recent fix of the corruption issues, I am probably going to switch to 790i.

Move your mem to the other slot ?
Give your mem the volt they need and then put nr 2 stick in ?

[ceevee]

If that is the biggest problem, Maybe you should by an Asus board

ALL new boards have issues in the biginning!

Be happy with your new board, And show us some results ?

Did you read this thread? Here are few of the issues:

The board will not post on default settings with many 2GB sticks. To get it to post you have to swap in 1Gb sticks.

The board will not overlock a QX9770 no matter what multiplier you set in the BIOS it will always run at 3.2Ghz.

Sleep mode in Vista crashes the motherboard when you try to "wake up"

Overlock recovery must be disabled or it will reset the board to default settings and then it won't post.

The board will not run 2GB sticks anywhere near the rated settings, I am using Intel XMB SPD certified sticks for 1600Mhz 7-7-7-18, they will only run at 1066Mhz to 1200Mhz. I also tried OCZ 1600Mhz sticks and they won't run past 1200Mhz either.

The board takes about 30-45secs after pushing the power button to actually get to a post screen.

I am sure I forgot some things but this is unaceeptable in a retail product.

[ceevee]

Move your mem to the other slot ?
Give your mem the volt they need and then put nr 2 stick in ?

Please read the whole thread. I have been through every basic troubleshooting option already.

[Lu(ky]

Did you read this thread? Here are few of the issues:

The board will not post on default settings with many 2GB sticks. To get it to post you have to swap in 1Gb sticks.

The board will not overlock a QX9770 no matter what multiplier you set in the BIOS it will always run at 3.2Ghz.

Sleep mode in Vista crashes the motherboard when you try to "wake up"

Overlock recovery must be disabled or it will reset the board to default settings and then it won't post.

The board will not run 2GB sticks anywhere near the rated settings, I am using Intel XMB SPD certified sticks for 1600Mhz 7-7-7-18, they will only run at 1066Mhz to 1200Mhz. I also tried OCZ 1600Mhz sticks and they won't run past 1200Mhz either.

The board takes about 30-45secs after pushing the power button to actually get to a post screen.

I am sure I forgot some things but this is unaceeptable in a retail product.

Before I buy my stuff I will watch other guys buy and try it out before I do for the sake of headaches, but I didn't do that with my Asus S2E board and regretted it. I tried to OC my QX9650 for the life of me on that board all I would get is memory dumps and data corruption every time I tried. So I sent it back to the egg, and got this board and I was able to OC it to 4GHz with no problems. Now I sold my QX9650 and bought a e8400 and still trying to OC it. My point is every part is different when you combine them together. So just because you spend $$$$ does not mean it will be compatible, specially the 8gb thing is just crazy. I see guys having problems with 4gbs. And why do you really need 8GBs of ram are you a photo/video editor or something? Because in gaming it will not help you... maybe it is time for a RMA on the board itself...

[Nosfer@tu]

Did you read this thread? Here are few of the issues:

The board will not post on default settings with many 2GB sticks. To get it to post you have to swap in 1Gb sticks.

The board will not overlock a QX9770 no matter what multiplier you set in the BIOS it will always run at 3.2Ghz.

Sleep mode in Vista crashes the motherboard when you try to "wake up"

Overlock recovery must be disabled or it will reset the board to default settings and then it won't post.

The board will not run 2GB sticks anywhere near the rated settings, I am using Intel XMB SPD certified sticks for 1600Mhz 7-7-7-18, they will only run at 1066Mhz to 1200Mhz. I also tried OCZ 1600Mhz sticks and they won't run past 1200Mhz either.

The board takes about 30-45secs after pushing the power button to actually get to a post screen.

I am sure I forgot some things but this is unaceeptable in a retail product.

I have sent of an email to Foxconn, the folks there I have contact with.
I agree, That is NOT acceptable.
I dont know, But I hope they contact you and ask you for more info.

I know that they give great support, I just dont think they understood the amount of manpower need for a end user board and not big distributers.

Lets hope they give this propper attention!

Please read the whole thread. I have been through every basic troubleshooting option already.

Sry mate, I read it yesterday. My mistake

[ceevee]

Well I think I have discovered what some of the RAM problems might be from. Again there is a situation where what you set in the BIOS does not actually happen.

Look here at my BIOS setting for memory timings (you can see CAS9 and 2T):



Here is what actually happens:


Why won't the BIOS set 2T CR? I think this may be what is holding back my memory. It is supposed to run at 1600Mhz 2T, but I cannot get the motherboard to actually run 2T. Am I missing anything here? (and why is it running CAS8 when I put CAS9??)

[Planet]

What happens when you set them in memset does the board crash or does it not apply?

[ceevee]

What happens when you set them in memset does the board crash or does it not apply?

It does not apply. I select the 2T option then it automatically goes back to 1T.
What do you think this means?

[Planet]

Prolly an issue with the bios. As far as the multiplier thing. They said change the EIST to something other than native save and exit. Then go back in and make all your changes and the last thing you should change is the EIST to Native.

[ceevee]

As far as the multiplier thing. They said change the EIST to something other than native save and exit. Then go back in and make all your changes and the last thing you should change is the EIST to Native.

Well that works.

But why do I want EIST in native? With EIST in Native mode Vista will underclock the CPU to 2.4Ghz to save power most of the time.

I checked CPU-z and it says 2.4Ghz, but then I ran p95 and it shot up to 3.6Ghz.



Is there no way to overlock with EIST turned OFF? I don't want to see this most of the time:

[Planet]

EIST has to be set to Native if you are running an unlocked multiplier. Thats why its set that way in the guide. You should beable to use CrystalCPUID to change the multiplier in windows and it should stay locked there.

[ceevee]

EIST has to be set to Native if you are running an unlocked multiplier. Thats why its set that way in the guide. You should beable to use CrystalCPUID to change the multiplier in windows and it should stay locked there.

Hi, I had tried it that way before when first setting up, but I did not realize that EIST must be turned on for it to overclock at all. I thought this was merely "recommended" setting.

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Starting to make some progress in spite of the bugs.

Got 8GB DDR3 @ 1345Mhz 8-9-9-24 1T, qx9770 @ 3.785Ghz @ 1.30v



I am feeling confident that if the BIOS will let me go to 2T and CAS9 that I can get all 8GB to 1600Mhz.

Also Cpt. Planet do you know how hot is too hot for the QX9770. At 3.8Ghz I am getting 65C under full Prime95 load in Coretemp. Is 65C too hot for max load (I belive it is the Tjunction reading)? (this is on air atm btw)

[Planet]

Hi, I had tried it that way before when first setting up, but I did not realize that EIST must be turned on for it to overclock at all. I thought this was merely "recommended" setting.

EIST must be set to Native if you wish to set your multiplier to over a stock setting.