"ASUS P5Q Deluxe discussion".

[Leeghoofd]

I'm on these at the moment :



4Gb ( 2 x 2 ) Mushkin PC8000 Redline 5-5-5-15, think they are powerchips as they require almost no volts to run at stock or even 1066Mhz (1.92ish level)
I don't have my 2gb Gskill kit here but will test those next week, they did 1200mhz 5-5-5-15 on the P5K and 780i...

My Gskill 4Gb PC8000PQ kit needs more volts to do the same... really looking forward to the OCZ test as running 1200mhz with 4Gb is a dream come true...

For the format I could go straight from my P5K Dlx to this one with just deinstalling my LAN drivers... worked fine... now I freshly installed WinXP64 and got that EPU thingy also installed but like BigJoe mentioned no settings possible when running OC'ed...

There's an Alpha bios around 0604, no beta yet...

Don't expect miracles from P45 coming from ya X48 DFI board mate. I think the latter is one of the fastest around if you can master the settings, which I can't lol
For me current Bios P5Q is already toooooo much

[TouGe]

I'm on these at the moment :

4Gb ( 2 x 2 ) Mushkin PC8000 Redline 5-5-5-15, think they are powerchips as they require almost no volts to run at stock or even 1066Mhz (1.92ish level)
I don't have my 2gb Gskill kit here but will test those next week, they did 1200mhz 5-5-5-15 on the P5K and 780i...

My Gskill 4Gb PC8000PQ kit needs more volts to do the same... really looking forward to the OCZ test as running 1200mhz with 4Gb is a dream come true...

For the format I could go straight from my P5K Dlx to this one with just deinstalling my LAN drivers... worked fine... now I freshly installed WinXP64 and got that EPU thingy also installed but like BigJoe mentioned no settings possible when running OC'ed...

There's an Alpha bios around 0604, no beta yet...

Don't expect miracles from P45 coming from ya X48 DFI board mate. I think the latter is one of the fastest around if you can master the settings, which I can't lol
For me current Bios P5Q is already toooooo much

No, not looking for miracles. Just 400-420FSB / 1066-1125MHz (400 STRAP) 5-4-4-12 PL7 w/ 9-9.5 multiplier. I have given up on achieving CAS4 on x38/x48 boards. I've ssen others do it but I haven't been able to get there as of yet.

I had problems with my DFI x48. I couldn't get my Flex II's off the 266/667 strap so I was stuck @ 1003MHz 5-5-3-12. No matter what I did, zilch. I also couldn't get any of my 4x1GB kits to work either, error'd in Memtest right from the start even though they all tested fine individually in all 4 slots.

So, I'm just looking for a trouble free experience so I can game for a few months before Nehalem comes, then I will play somemore.

Thanks....

Edit

[Leeghoofd]

My Settings mate with my Qx9650

JumperFree Configuration Settings
AI Overclock tuner: MANUAL
CPU Ratio Setting: 9
FSB Strap to North Bridge: AUTO
FSB Frequency: 400
PCI-E Frequency: 101
DRAM Frequency: 1066
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: MANUAL

1st Information :

CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 55
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO

2nd Information :

READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to READ Delay (D): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (S): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (D): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): AUTO

3rd Information :

WRITE to PRE Delay: AUTO
READ to PRE Delay: AUTO
PRE to PRE Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to REF Delay: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: DISABLED
DRAM Read Training: AUTO
MEM. OC Charger: AUTO
AI Clock Twister: AUTO
AI Transaction Booster: MANUAL
Common Performance Level 7
Pull-In of CHA PH1: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH2: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH3: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH4: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH1: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH2: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH3: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH4: DISABLED

CPU Voltage: 1.2
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): AUTO
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.5
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.2
DRAM Voltage: 1.92
NB Voltage: 1.2
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: AUTO
PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO
Load Line Calibration: DISABLED
CPU Spread Spectrum: DISABLED
PCIE Spread Spectrum: DISABLED

Here's a piccie for the subtiming fanatatics :

[TouGe]

Nice, I'm really liking the BIOS options this time around. It's good to see the clk skew options, Pull-ins, and GTL's that should help acheive a decent FSB and RAM clock. With your CPU PLL set at 1.5V what does your BIOS report? On my Formula x38 it over-volted to 1.61V. I really hope this is not the case this time around.

This might be a fun little tweaker board afterall.

[BigJoe]

No HW monitoring at P5Q Dlx for all voltages
Just +3.3 +5 +12 and vCore...

I think no overvolting or undervolting on this board, based on vCore expirience

[Leeghoofd]

Yep like with P5K Dlx if Premium board has these readings I might step up to that one

[Gr8 Vivec]

eh p5q deluxe
and p5q premium ( this has 4 pci express)

are 16 phases
the rest are 8.

yea, I know about phases, I dont care about them, it is all marketing crap, useless...

I'm asking about BIOS differences between P5Q-E and P5Q Deluxe, is there any?

[Leeghoofd]

yea, I know about phases, I dont care about them, it is all marketing crap, useless...

I'm asking about BIOS differences between P5Q-E and P5Q Deluxe, is there any?

Grab the manuals and find out, and really these crap phases made me buy this board and till now it has proven pretty stable on voltages... better than my P5K Dlx for sure...

EDIT : I grabbed P5Q-E manual and ram and voltage settings look the same... so you might be a pretty happy camper then....

[Chri$ch]

Static Read Control disable
VCore @ 1.23xx v
PLL @ 1.50v
FSB @ 1.20v
NB @ 1.26v
SB @ 1.10v
PCIe / Sata @ 1.50v

[TouGe]

Yep like with P5K Dlx if Premium board has these readings I might step up to that one

Any ETA on the Premium?

If this board handles like the P5K-D then I'll be happy. I really enjoyed that board, more so than any of the boards I've had previously and since.

I wonder if Everest will be able to read any of the voltages then....

Edit

[Leeghoofd]

It is like the P5K Dlx, just more tweaking options and better stable voltage control , a few biosses on and it will surpass the P35 for sure...

And ditch my piccies Touge in the replies plz...

Keep us informed when you get the board...

[Chri$ch]

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=372081

with only 1.36v NB voltage AND the Corsair Dominator

[STaRGaZeR]

What PL are you guys using for 450FSB and CAS5 2x2GB modules?

[Leeghoofd]

With the Quad and 2 x 2 Mushkin ram here :

450FSB /900Mhz ram PL 10 was the lowest I could set (bios gives 13 at auto)
450FSB /1081Mhz ram PL8 (bios 10 auto)

Make sure you set TRFC to 55....

See post 149 for screenies...

[xVeinx]

Any rumors on this board NOT working with crucial ballistix (single sided)? I'm looking to upgrade from my p5k vanilla, and I might get new ram, but it would be nice if I can work with these at least at first...

[STaRGaZeR]

With the Quad and 2 x 2 Mushkin ram here :

450FSB /900Mhz ram PL 10 was the lowest I could set (bios gives 13 at auto)
450FSB /1081Mhz ram PL8 (bios 10 auto)

Make sure you set TRFC to 55....

See post 149 for screenies...

P5E can do 450/1081 at PL7. My board should be here soon.

[chispy]

Good info here guys , has any one tried ballistics 8500 2x 1 GB and E8400 max FSB ? My board will be here next week.

[R@ptor =]]]

I sold my mobo yesterday, and now I only look forward to more tests to take this wonderful mobo..
The problem is: it is not yet sold in Brazil and when it will be available It will be very, very expensive!

[diablos]

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=372081

with only 1.36v NB voltage AND the Corsair Dominator

can you test the max fsb with 6x?

thanks

[velvet44]

Have a P5Q Deluxe on the way for a new system. Not sure what memory to go with. Any suggestions??
Will be using a X3320 (9300) for now that I have on hand. I know it has a low multi (7.5) so will need to run high FSB to get to decent clock. Nice low power consumption tho for quad
Also, I am thinking of keeping it on air for now and ordering Xigmatek 1263 if that will fit...

Thanks,
hope to contribute down the road to this thread!

[Chri$ch]

can you test the max fsb with 6x?

thanks

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=372251

i dont know if the CPU, Mem or Board limited. I try tomorrow a E8200 which can do
595FSB on P35 chipset

Regards
Chris

[Leeghoofd]

P5E can do 450/1081 at PL7. My board should be here soon.

One of the reasons I stressed this with current alpha bios things are way better, but still needs some tweaking to get up to P35/X38 level...

Overall stability is amasing out of the box...PWM voltage regulation too and the board seems build to last... hope we've got a winner here !!!

[Leeghoofd]

Test with 4Gb PC8000 Mushkin and 4gb Gskill PC8000 ram : Totalling 8Gb ram at 1066Mhz Performance level 7 : 2hours blend stable

Settings :

JumperFree Configuration Settings
AI Overclock tuner: MANUAL
CPU Ratio Setting: 9
FSB Strap to North Bridge: AUTO
FSB Frequency: 400
PCI-E Frequency: 101
DRAM Frequency: 1066
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: MANUAL

1st Information :

CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 55
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO

2nd Information :

READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to READ Delay (D): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (S): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (D): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): AUTO

3rd Information :

WRITE to PRE Delay: AUTO
READ to PRE Delay: AUTO
PRE to PRE Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to REF Delay: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: DISABLED
DRAM Read Training: AUTO
MEM. OC Charger: AUTO
AI Clock Twister: AUTO
AI Transaction Booster: MANUAL
Common Performance Level 7
Pull-In of CHA PH1: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH2: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH3: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH4: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH1: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH2: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH3: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH4: DISABLED

CPU Voltage: 1.2
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): AUTO
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.5
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.2
DRAM Voltage: 1.96
NB Voltage: 1.2
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: AUTO
PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO
Load Line Calibration: DISABLED
CPU Spread Spectrum: DISABLED
PCIE Spread Spectrum: DISABLED

Everest test :



Blend Run :

[BigJoe]

@Leeghoofd
Load Line Calibration: DISABLED
Why?

[Leeghoofd]

@Leeghoofd
Load Line Calibration: DISABLED
Why?

I'm scared BigJoe : of spikes exceeding the specs of Intel... I wouldn't mind using it on the E8400/E8500 but not on the superexpensive QX9650... till some specialist can tell me there are no more spikes...

For 3.6Ghz I set 1.2 to get 1.18 under idle and 1.13 under load, for 4ghz I need 1.325 to get 1.26 under load without loadline calib...

anyway a piccie of the 8gb Gskill and Mushkin ram in perfect harmony :