By far the biggest benefit Intel has gotten from AMD is from x64. Scary to think Intel told us all that 64bit on the desktop is not needed.
K8 didn't copy anything except the concept. AMD took the memory controller and made it mainstream, right down to the budget desktop.
30% is an excellent improvement.
HAHA good point.
AMD would be in trouble today if they didn't own ATI. K10 would have little or no platform to run on. Look how long it took Nvidia to field a K10 chipset.
I started that thread over at AMDzone.com. I have been a very strong AMD supporter for years, but I see the writing on the wall. Scientia is a very, very knowledgeable person and has excellent technical understanding. But he also tends to find the silver lining for AMD more often than not. I agree with a lot of what he says yes, but in this instance I think he is grasping a bit. AMD IS in trouble. Their last bastion, the server CPU with IMC and multi-socket scaling due to HT is coming to an end.
I really think AMD's biggest problem right now is their fab tech. If they had their ducks in a row, K10 would probably be running at above 3Ghz with decent power consumption. It is damn near impossible to make up for a 500+ mhz deficit, which is what AMD is dealing with. Never mind that Nehalem is bring improved IPC into the mix.




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