Quote Originally Posted by Syn. View Post
This makes me wonder, now that they finally implemented everything AMD invented so far what will they do next?
By far the biggest benefit Intel has gotten from AMD is from x64. Scary to think Intel told us all that 64bit on the desktop is not needed.

Quote Originally Posted by Shintai View Post
K8 copied the IMC from 386SL and 486SL.
K8 didn't copy anything except the concept. AMD took the memory controller and made it mainstream, right down to the budget desktop.
Quote Originally Posted by RealTelstar View Post
About a 30% perf increase is what I would have expcted. Nothing exceptional.
30% is an excellent improvement.

Quote Originally Posted by DarkDisciple View Post
This test would be commonly used, if you were only allowed to use one cylinder on 90% of roads.
HAHA good point.

Quote Originally Posted by Metroid View Post
AMD did it to itself. AMD bought ATI without any short return investment.
AMD would be in trouble today if they didn't own ATI. K10 would have little or no platform to run on. Look how long it took Nvidia to field a K10 chipset.
Quote Originally Posted by gallag View Post
Actually guys, If you nip over to AMDzone scientia and the_ghost have some pretty compelling theories as to why we should not get to excited about this.
I started that thread over at AMDzone.com. I have been a very strong AMD supporter for years, but I see the writing on the wall. Scientia is a very, very knowledgeable person and has excellent technical understanding. But he also tends to find the silver lining for AMD more often than not. I agree with a lot of what he says yes, but in this instance I think he is grasping a bit. AMD IS in trouble. Their last bastion, the server CPU with IMC and multi-socket scaling due to HT is coming to an end.

I really think AMD's biggest problem right now is their fab tech. If they had their ducks in a row, K10 would probably be running at above 3Ghz with decent power consumption. It is damn near impossible to make up for a 500+ mhz deficit, which is what AMD is dealing with. Never mind that Nehalem is bring improved IPC into the mix.