Anandtech benches Nehalem

[alucasa]

I need more cores. That is for sure.

Rendering is my hobby, and a good render used to take over 12 hours on Pentium 4.
(Try Vue full scene rendering with Ultra High quality.)

It was reduced by literally half when Athlon X2 was introduced.

It was further reduced by Core 2 duo, and then Core 2 quad.
Still, 4 cores take more than an hour which is still a PITA to work with. My dual Barcelona system scored similar to Q6600, so, I didn't bother using the platform except for WCGing.

Now, my dual E5410 is in making, I should be able to get rendering done in less than an hour.
Though it will only be a matter of time that I become dissatisfied with 8 cores. I suppose that's where Nehalem comes in, and perhaps I can get rendering done in a half hour?

Oh..., dear lord. My dream is perhaps within my reach.

[largon]

Oh look. Yet another fast CPU.
That's just great. Now, if there just was atleast some use for them...

[metro.cl]

I need more cores. That is for sure.

Rendering is my hobby, and a good render used to take over 12 hours on Pentium 4.
(Try Vue full scene rendering with Ultra High quality.)

It was reduced by literally half when Athlon X2 was introduced.

It was further reduced by Core 2 duo, and then Core 2 quad.
Still, 4 cores take more than an hour which is still a PITA to work with. My dual Barcelona system scored similar to Q6600, so, I didn't bother using the platform except for WCGing.

Now, my dual E5410 is in making, I should be able to get rendering done in less than an hour.
Though it will only be a matter of time that I become dissatisfied with 8 cores. I suppose that's where Nehalem comes in, and perhaps I can get rendering done in a half hour?

Oh..., dear lord. My dream is perhaps within my reach.

You gotta buy a couple of GTX 280 and you'll do it in a lot less time.

[DarkDisciple]

Why would they do that? That would be like testing a high performance V8 with 7 spark plugs removed.

This test would be commonly used, if you were only allowed to use one cylinder on 90% of roads.

[alucasa]

You gotta buy a couple of GTX 280 and you'll do it in a lot less time.

It's CPU task.
Though the rig does have a Gefroce 7800gs on it for watching DVD.

However, Vue software requirement states no video card, and video card has little to do with rendering at least with Vue, Poser 7, and Carrara 6 Pro.

[Macadamia]

(Try Vue full scene rendering with Ultra High quality.)

You don't know how to do it really right.

(Ex Vue enthusiast passing by)

[Metroid]

Oh look. Yet another fast CPU.
That's just great. Now, if there just was atleast some use for them...

That is my point. Intel has done more than enough, now is up to developers. The benefits are very well shown in this great article by Anantech, also 3D benchmarks are sweet and that will attract high end gamers who look for the best system.

Servers are the breakthrough here, transactions done using ERP systems that have implemented EDI technology eliminating the bottleneck or deadlocks.

Metroid.

[Think]

I missed the Pending release date?

Thanks

[alucasa]

You don't know how to do it really right.

(Ex Vue enthusiast passing by)

P.S. I need to upgrade my Vue to 6... Not this month though.

[Shintai]

I missed the Pending release date?

Thanks

Q4 2008

[mstp2009]

Bulldozer cannot come fast enough for AMD.

And even then, with numbers like this, it may be too little to late.

[generics_user]

The testingboard only have SINGLECHANNEL working. Plus higher latency than another board. But they couldnt keep the other board long enough. SO all tests are done on the faulty.

THESE TESTS ARE TRIPLE CHANNEL

read thorugh the article, they use DDR3 1066, MAX theoretical BW on a single channel is 8533 MB/S, there is NO way they get 12 gb/s with a single channel , maybe it still isn't tweaked enough but AMD barely hits 11gb/s on DDR2 1066 so these tests have to run at triple channel, maybe dual if intel found a miracle way to get close to 100% efficiency

looking good, AMD'S going to be in the same position they are today if they manage to launch it at the same time amd'S going to release K10 45nm (K10 done right) with higher NB frequencies, higher clocks (maybe 3ghz).

intel's going to keep the lead for a longer time, however we still don't know the performance of their dual channel parts and how fast their NUMA arch is (we still don'T know this for amd either as 45nm finally brings HT3 to the server market...)

going to be some interesting months with all these new CPUs and GPUs, can'T wait until this stuff gets released

[Shintai]

THESE TESTS ARE TRIPLE CHANNEL

read thorugh the article, they use DDR3 1066, MAX theoretical BW on a single channel is 8533 MB/S, there is NO way they get 12 gb/s with a single channel , maybe it still isn't tweaked enough but AMD barely hits 11gb/s on DDR2 1066 so these tests have to run at triple channel, maybe dual if intel found a miracle way to get close to 100% efficiency

Lets try again...

http://anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/int...spx?i=3326&p=2

We had access to a 2.66GHz Nehalem for the longest time, unfortunately the motherboard it was paired with had some serious issues with memory performance. Not only was there no difference between single and triple channel memory configurations, memory latency was high. We know this was a board specific issue since our second Nehalem platform didn't exhibit any issues. Unfortunately we didn't have access to the more mature platform for very long at all, meaning the majority of our tests had to be run on the first setup (never fear, Nehalem is fast enough that it didn't end up mattering).

The motherboard implementation of our 2.66GHz system needed some work so our memory bandwidth/latency numbers on it were way off (slower than Core 2), luckily we had another platform at our disposal running at 2.93GHz which was working perfectly. We turned to Everest Ultimate 4.50 to give us memory bandwidth and latency numbers from Nehalem.

Note that these figures are from a completely untuned motherboard and are using DDR3-1066 (dual-channel on the Core 2 system and triple-channel on the Nehalem system):

Benchmarks=singlechannel. Not the synthetic everest. The everest is also done with a 2.93Ghz nehalem.

[Buckeye]

Well well, Intel certainly wants AMD gone...don't they?

Actually it may work out the other way around.

If Nvidia does not get the ability to use SLI with these chips then how many of you will go for ATI GPUs so you can max out your setups ?

[Nedjo]

Bulldozer cannot come fast enough for AMD.

And even then, with numbers like this, it may be too little to late.

why do people think that after Nehalem there will be no other CPU on the market!? I haven't noticed that BMW M3 is the only car selling out there?

[Atal]

omg!!! I have been waiting for these a long time, so on the overclocking side? cant wait to see how is it going to be since there is no FSB anymore

[Shintai]

why do people think that after Nehalem there will be no other CPU on the market!? I haven't noticed that BMW M3 is the only car selling out there?

That BMW M3 got quite cheap didnt it?

[tajoh111]

Actually it may work out the other way around.

If Nvidia does not get the ability to use SLI with these chips then how many of you will go for ATI GPUs so you can max out your setups ?

Alot more people are going to buy intel when they can get this type of performance than get an AMD so they can run two cards.

SLI and crossfire are so niche, I'd imagine less than 15 percent of cpu game to begin with, and probaly 1 percent of that runs dual cards.

But computing power, everyone wants that. Just look what happens when some cpu has crazy performance on it compared to the competition(core2 = nearly bankrupt AMD).

[Macadamia]

P.S. I need to upgrade my Vue to 6... Not this month though.

You haven't? D:

Now something's really wrong. The only long renders I have was on bad spectral configs.

Hence: 6 is uber slow (5+hrs for default high, 800*600 on my Brisbane), Vue 5 only took 24 hours on my Barton with high supersampling for a 2k res render.

[Nedjo]

That BMW M3 got quite cheap didnt it?

don't know, you tell me?

[Shintai]

don't know, you tell me?

Nehalem doesnt equal a BMW M3, perhaps some of the top bins. But Nehalem strecthes all the way down to the lowest CPU.

[alucasa]

You haven't? D:

Now something's really wrong. The only long renders I have was on bad spectral configs.

Hence: 6 is uber slow (5+hrs for default high, 800*600 on my Brisbane), Vue 5 only took 24 hours on my Barton with high supersampling for a 2k res render.

Building a 8 core Harpertown rig this month. I am gonna be on tight budget throughout this month.
Gamers will never know our pain.

Too bad that Nehalem is 4 physical and 4 logical though.

Off topic, when is 8 physical-core coming ? What codename is it under ?

[systemviper]

Well that just changed my roadmap for this year....

[GoThr3k]

Q4 2008

Q4 for servers, not desktop, or only very limited

[3NZ0]

Oh wow I know where my money is going in Q4 fo-sho now