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Can we finally get some performance figures and verify clockspeeds?
Pretty please...
Damn, you want everything..
Ok, here you go:
It's substantially faster than the current Yorkies.
OK?
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The mainstream chipset is currently referred to as "Ibexpeak"
More info here... Nehalem Overview
-Chris.
Even though the pin count is nearly double, the IHS is actually not much larger due to much higher density pad spacing...
-Chris.
Last edited by virtualrain; 05-31-2008 at 08:26 PM.
If you are planning a move to DDR3, you won't get much out of it vs DDR2 until Nehalem. Going DDR3 on Core2 technology leaves a lot of memory performance untapped due to the FSB bottleneck. However, if you want to take advantage of cheap DDR2, you might want to get a DDR2 P45 platform.
Nehalem CPU's will likely be expensive for the first 6-12months just like initial Kentsfields were when they came out and Nehalem might hold higher price points longer than Kenty's did.
-Chris.
Well, the 45nm/P45 question was to the other poster... I'm in the same boat. Don't know if I should jump on a 45nm dual or quad now and get P45, or just wait it out until Nehalem/X58.
45nm quad and P45 sounds like a better idea because I would need to get new RAM with the X58. My D9GMH Ballistix are treating me well.
Looks like both chips are sitting on a Taiwanese currency note and compared with Singapore coins....
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I went with getting the 8400 and a cheap P35 and will then hold out for Nehalem!
Posted by duploxxx
I am sure JF is relaxed and smiling these days with there intended launch schedule. SNB Xeon servers on the other hand....
Posted by gallag
there yo go bringing intel into a amd thread again lol, if that was someone droping a dig at amd you would be crying like a girl.qft!
That was another thought of mine... a friend just picked up a week old P5K Deluxe WIFI for $75, so he might sell me his IP35-E for cheap. E8400 to play with until Nehalem is a thought too... probably the cheapest route.
so skt 775 is slowly dissapearing ??, there are going to be 3 new sockts, awsome !
E8400
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750 Gb WD
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Hmm, Intel is finally getting rid of the god forsaken front side bus.
It's about time.
You did. It is a cut down version of P45 supporting only 1 PCIe 16x slot, no other PCIe slot (at least those accepting a graphics card). Not sure if anything else is lost...I could've sworn there was either a P43 or a P53 coming out though... Either that, or I was hallucinating when I read an article... Hmm...
55W is the peak, eg. "extreme". But yes, its is higher than the 44W today.
The usual john doe laptop will be 35W TDP just as today.
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yup, i dont think 55W is much for a quadcore, thought i dont know where i would need a quad in notebook.
And remember the mobile TDP is with a GPU aswell.
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Low voltage Xeons @ 2.5ghz have 50w TDP (of course w/out memory controller). I thought that for mobile they will do a bit better, but 55W isn't really bad.yup, i dont think 55W is much for a quadcore, thought i dont know where i would need a quad in notebook.
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HARDWARE I only own Xeons, Extreme Editions & Lian Li's
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Even if NVIDIA fails to make a QPI chipset, MoBo makers can add SLI support by putting a nForce 200 on the boards, like on the skulltrail.
The same for Lynnfield.
That $77 Foxconn supports 16x/4X dual slots. Newegg has it for;
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813186119
Picky with RAM but runs with my 4GB of Muskin. The only Problem I've seen is Deep Sleep/S3, will not wake up properly. WIll wake from stand by$74 after rebate.
Absolutely perfect cheap board is the Gigabyte DS3L in my ohter rig.
Posted by duploxxx
I am sure JF is relaxed and smiling these days with there intended launch schedule. SNB Xeon servers on the other hand....
Posted by gallag
there yo go bringing intel into a amd thread again lol, if that was someone droping a dig at amd you would be crying like a girl.
If the boffins get this right, these onboard Memory Controlled CPU's should kick some serious friggin Ass with numbers!
Hold on to your Lock-Nuts RE prices!! ........ Fat wallets will probably be required, but wtf eh!
Why the WTF? Look at what AMD did with X2 right out the gate? At least Intel held off raping us for two yearsIf the boffins get this right, these onboard Memory Controlled CPU's should kick some serious friggin Ass with numbers!
Hold on to your Lock-Nuts RE prices!! ........ Fat wallets will probably be required, but wtf eh!Also, it's not like Penryn sucks
Posted by duploxxx
I am sure JF is relaxed and smiling these days with there intended launch schedule. SNB Xeon servers on the other hand....
Posted by gallag
there yo go bringing intel into a amd thread again lol, if that was someone droping a dig at amd you would be crying like a girl.
Dunno what the knock on effect will be with Nehalem on pricing. With so many new CPU features, I guess Intel will be able to throttle the marketing accordingly & the more Juicy CPU`s will be fetching some pretty hefty prices. Top end Intel CPU`s have already seen £1000.00 GBP at launch, so I don`t figure your idea of Intel holding off from raping us in the last 2 years kinda works here. It`s much the same as nVidia Raping the industry over SLI. nVidia got too big for their boots & Intel have made them suffer for the last 2 years over it.Why the WTF? Look at what AMD did with X2 right out the gate? At least Intel held off raping us for two years
Thing is with the Nehalem architecture, the speed difference your rig will see for it should be massive. It should blow even the most ardent Hardware gurus clean out of the zone & whilst Penryn doesn`t suck, it`s not yet sat in Nehalem's shadow. Fatten your wallet & get ready for WTF!
Very few folks on this forum care about AMD's or Intel top or high end models. The low to mid-range ones are more like to have more overclocking room so those are the most sought after models. That's something some folks tried to explain to at least one other poster here. Buying $1000 processors of any kind of defeats one of the main reason for overclocking, getting more for lessDunno what the knock on effect will be with Nehalem on pricing. With so many new CPU features, I guess Intel will be able to throttle the marketing accordingly & the more Juicy CPU`s will be fetching some pretty hefty prices. Top end Intel CPU`s have already seen £1000.00 GBP at launch, so I don`t figure your idea of Intel holding off from raping us in the last 2 years kinda works here. It`s much the same as nVidia Raping the industry over SLI. nVidia got too big for their boots & Intel have made them suffer for the last 2 years over it.
Thing is with the Nehalem architecture, the speed difference your rig will see for it should be massive. It should blow even the most ardent Hardware gurus clean out of the zone & whilst Penryn doesn`t suck, it`s not yet sat in Nehalem's shadow. Fatten your wallet & get ready for WTF!
The WTF is for who is surprised by Intel wanting more for Nehalem? Without competition, should prices on the lower end models stay low forever? Very few here care anything about the top two or even 3 models. Most of the time, Intel has a much wider range of products so there is no pressure most of the time to buy the High end models. The only question is how long after the Money making high end processors will folks have to wait for the mid-ranged models that most folks buy.
Posted by duploxxx
I am sure JF is relaxed and smiling these days with there intended launch schedule. SNB Xeon servers on the other hand....
Posted by gallag
there yo go bringing intel into a amd thread again lol, if that was someone droping a dig at amd you would be crying like a girl.
Actually I disagree here. Just as you saw all the top benchmarks on the SkullTrail systems done with QX9775's I am interested in the top numbers I can get and to do that I need the top end cpu'sVery few folks on this forum care about AMD's or Intel top or high end models. The low to mid-range ones are more like to have more overclocking room so those are the most sought after models. That's something some folks tried to explain to at least one other poster here. Buying $1000 processors of any kind of defeats one of the main reason for overclocking, getting more for less
The WTF is for who is surprised by Intel wanting more for Nehalem? Without competition, should prices on the lower end models stay low forever? Very few here care anything about the top two or even 3 models. Most of the time, Intel has a much wider range of products so there is no pressure most of the time to buy the High end models. The only question is how long after the Money making high end processors will folks have to wait for the mid-ranged models that most folks buy.
On the dual boards there is no way a 5420 with it's 7.5 multi will do what a X5460 will do with it's 9.5 multi.
Possibly 3375 with the 5420's but very possible to do 4275 with he same numbers with the X5460's..
Yea, you pay more but thats an additional 900mhz per core and there are 8 of them for an additional 7200mhz.
Besides, an 8 core machine at over 4000mhz is pure epeen..
I just had a 8 core X5482 Harpertown setup up to 3600 on air and God's truth, you wouldn't beleive the power in that bastage..
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