Ubisoft: no plans to re-implement DX10.1 in Assassin's Creed

[BenchZowner]

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It would have been nice to have SM3 on ATI cards in 2004, but I don't think it was necessary. ATI supported SM3, they just didn't have a card out w/ SM3 support until 2005.

They didn't support or applaud it, actually they were letting slides out with "SM3 hate" if my memory serves me right ( this time I'm quite sure it does ).

Considering I can't remember a clear example of a game that ever used SM3 and it had a noticeable effect (except Far Cry) until the ~2006-2007 timeframe (when games began to require it) I don't think ATI was wrong in waiting.

Once again, 1 game back then as you say ( FarCry ), 1 game now ( Assasins Creed ).

The difference here is nVidia seems to never be interested in supporting DX10.1, which is a bit different. If this was the same as the ATI SM3 issue, nVidia would be supporting DX10.1 a year later than ATI, in 2008 with G200. But that's not the case.

And why do you think nVIDIA is trying to prevent others from using DX10.1 while they could just reword their reworked architecture and with little to none changes ( hardware-wise DX10.1 isn't that much different ) and just make the performance gap between their products and the competitor's products even bigger ? ( since nVIDIA is already in the lead, even when comparing their card with DX10 against the AMD card with DX10.1 )

By the way, how many DX10.1 games have you heard about coming ?
How many DX10 games ? ( even those are few, very few )

Yes there is a 15-20% boost, in fact the difference is 25% comparing Minimum framerates:
http://www.rage3d.com/articles/assas.../index.php?p=3

I do not trust rage3d at all.
And also, if you've been following this thing from the beginning you'd already know that I've took several measurements in DX10 & DX10.1 comparing nV & AMD cards

And suggesting AMD actually market something is a lost cause. ATI has never had the marketing nVidia had. Why do you think nVidia did well even during the GeForce FX days? We see ATI on their knees right now because R600 wasn't competitive, but when nVidia runs into problems, they can just rely on marketing.

That's their problem. If they can't market their products and targets right, too bad.

p.s. @ Jakko about money... well... if AMD's employees worked really hard, and finally put out a decent product, then they'd have more money and such.

With the G80 nVIDIA made a big step forwarding and really swept ATi ( now AMD ) off the floor.
The next card was also a disappointment and also failed to compete even with the 'pre'-high end G80 part.
It took AMD a full year+ to come up with something that beats the initial G80 lineup and some of their refreshes.

Like in a car race, you have to keep up...otherwise you'll be left behind, and when you're behind you need to work hard and make your way to the "opponent".