**Official DFI LanParty UT X48-T2R(and LT) Discussion

[Sir Lancelot]

[offtopic] Love your headhones m8. Just awesome! [/offtopic]

[TouGe]

ive had 4-4-4-10 up to 1040 with 4GB of gmh, but my gmh is strange it acts like gkx and dosnt do cas5 until u get to 1150mhz, it took 1.6V NB

4x1GB has no problem with cas4 but 2x2GB cant do it


whats the best 2.2V ram cas3 that people are getting

Yeah, you sure are right about the 2x2gig kits. Thanks for the info Zanzabar.

[offtopic] Love your headhones m8. Just awesome! [/offtopic]

It took me a while to figure out what the heck you were talking about.

[ZenEffect]

That's a 2 gig kit though, right? So I'd probably need around 1.55V for a 4 gig kit then, about the same as I needed with my old board. Have you tried to hit CAS4 w/ 4 gigs? I'm starting to think its nearly impossible to hit CAS4 w/ 4 gigs.



I spoke with Clunk the other day and he had said that the new BIOS should be out any day now, until then 0320 is the current BIOS.

it is a 2 gig kit. i havent had the chance to try 4gig cas4 but i imagine trfc values will have everything to do with clocking them up properly.

[zsamz_]

You were able to hit 4-4-4-12 @ 1000MHz w/ your Mushkins on this board? If so, what NB voltage did you need? I would have been happy with those timmings @ 1000MHz but for some reason I couldn't get CAS4 to work. Did you have to lax PL in order to get such tight timmings?

i hit 4-4-4-12@1120 2.3v but i had to send rma ram cause it gave me 1 error
4-4-4-12@1000 needed 2.24v pl8 pull to 7 1.58vnb
for some reason my board hated 1:1@500fsb but @ 505+ was ok 1:1

[adya]

Just purchased 4x1GB Cellshock PC-2 8500 D9GMH 64Mx8 chips from MemoryC. I hope these clock better than my 4x1GB PC-2 8500 D9GKX Mushkins did on this board. I had a hard time getting 5-5-15-42 @ 1067MHz PL7 stable on this board when I was running 5-4-4-12-32 @ 1067MHz PL7 on my Maximus/Rampage conversion. This has got to me my last DDR2 purchase or I am never going to be able to move up to DDR3.

touge im thinking about buying the exact same ram ,4x1gb as well. ill wait to see how far u can push urs though if u can get close to 4-4-4-12 at 1000mhz + then ill get em for sure.
just curious ,what error code were u getting with ur mushkins when ur timings were to tight?

[TouGe]

i hit 4-4-4-12@1120 2.3v but i had to send rma ram cause it gave me 1 error
4-4-4-12@1000 needed 2.24v pl8 pull to 7 1.58vnb
for some reason my board hated 1:1@500fsb but @ 505+ was ok 1:1

Thanks for the info zsamz. I thought I had tried a PL of 8 with all pullins set to Auto but I was still getting errors @ 1000MHz 5-4-4-12 w/ 2.3V on the 5:4 divider and about the same nbv as yours. Maybe my trusty ol Mushkins are slowly dying, too bad. I'll give all this a whirl when I get my cellshocks from MemoryC.

touge im thinking about buying the exact same ram ,4x1gb as well. ill wait to see how far u can push urs though if u can get close to 4-4-4-12 at 1000mhz + then ill get em for sure.
just curious ,what error code were u getting with ur mushkins when ur timings were to tight?

I don't know when I will be getting my cellshocks from MemoryC. I chose 1 day delivery but then I realized that they are located overseas--for some reason I thought they were a Canadian company. I sent them an email asking how they could offer 1 day shipping to America but didn't get a response yet.
As for erros, I used memtest to check for stability @ 5-4-4-12 and was getting errors about 5 minutes into testing. When trying 4-4-4-12 it wouldn't load windows.

[adya]

yeh same , seems like its hard getting tighter timings with this board. i have noticed though its alot faster and more stable with 2x1gb 1141mhz with 5-5-5-12-30 pl 8 than with 4x1gb 1141mhz 5-5-5-15-47 . not only with benchmark results but i dont seem to get many errors now, unless i try 4-4-4- then it just dies.
instead of getting 4x1gb of cells or team im thinking of just sticking with 2x1gb and getting this gtx 280 nxt mnth, it has 1gb of ramdec so that would solve alot of slow gaming issues i have with vista .i noticed a massive difference with vista/gaming when i upgraded from a 7800/256 to a 8800/512

[TouGe]

yeh same , seems like its hard getting tighter timings with this board. i have noticed though its alot faster and more stable with 2x1gb 1141mhz with 5-5-5-12-30 pl 8 than with 4x1gb 1141mhz 5-5-5-15-47 . not only with benchmark results but i dont seem to get many errors now, unless i try 4-4-4- then it just dies.
instead of getting 4x1gb of cells or team im thinking of just sticking with 2x1gb and getting this gtx 280 nxt mnth, it has 1gb of ramdec so that would solve alot of slow gaming issues i have with vista .i noticed a massive difference with vista/gaming when i upgraded from a 7800/256 to a 8800/512

Yeah, I've been told by some over at the Formula/Rampage post not to expect much performance from using 4x1GB kits as these boards were not designed for such usage and that it puts too much stress on the NB but......

If you don't need the extra RAM then go for the 2x1GB set-up and save your cash for the video card. You'll definitely see better performance going that route.

[CrapCrasher]

After some further fine tuning I found optimal settings for 24/7 usage at 3400mhz, here are my settings for who is willing to use/tryout them:

CPU 1.33750v
DRAM 2.03v
SB 1.510v
NB 1.367v
VTT 1.250v
GTL 115-107-100

I will try next to pump up to 3600mhz as in my past experience I found some problem to reach the needed stability I am research, if anyone has stable settings at 3600mhz and wan't share them let me know

[Jeremyz]

Hi Guys,

I currently have a Maximus Formula SE, was wondering whether a switch over to the DFI X48 (LT) would be of noticeable change.

[zsamz_]

Hi Guys,

I currently have a Maximus Formula SE, was wondering whether a switch over to the DFI X48 (LT) would be of noticeable change.

nope
the dfi just clockin ram better

[Jeremyz]

So would it be a good change? Has anyone made such a transition before?

[zsamz_]

So would it be a good change? Has anyone made such a transition before?

me i bought a dfi ut p35 lol i think its the best board ever made

[SXS]

Just found this link:

http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?f...e&dno=6395&i=1

DFI doesnt have the latest x48 drivers, everything comes up as x38 in the system section of device manager. But after installing the above - all good!

PS. I'm LOVING THIS BOARD!!!!!!!!

I thought I was a veteran overclocker - how wrong I was!!! This board is a killer for configuration, soooo many bleedin edge options, and all where it counts, memory stability... just wish there was a paragraph that in just a few words could tell me what it all means lol.... Newbie I most definitely aint, but this motherboard is like showing a VB programmer some C++....

I'll be back with some updates and loads of questions, so you guys who've been through the late nights and beers/coffees and countless CMOS clears - dont run away just yet! I need help!!!!

I've watercooled the CHIPSET/CPU/GPU (in that order) using 1/2" tubing, Apogee GT block on the CPU and the similar looking version for the northbridge and a Danger Den Ione 8800 (92v) gpu block.

Also removed the heatsink from the mosfet area, and removed the nasty gunk that was there (highly recommended, looks like the this paste they use just ripples to the sides so definitely not as effective as it should be, so replaced it with some AS5. Did the same for the southbridge, I know it barely heats up but what the heck I was bored!

I still cant get my head round how STABLE this board is, once you go D-F-I you aint ever going back to M-S-I... lol

I had the Gigabyte x38 board, pile of crap IMHO, it didnt last with an extreme clock (and yup I do have fans all over the place to keep things cool, I think its ty dual-bios implementation didnt work quite right and totally screwed the board up when it tried to recover from a fatal crash or something).... The Asus Maxi just had too many operational quirks...

DFI - PLEASE JAZZ UP YOUR SMARTGUARDIAN SOFTWARE WITH SOME SLICK VISTA SKINNING FOR US VISTA FOLKS - IT LOOKS LIKE A 50 YEAR OLD WROTE THE SOFTWARE USING 80'S GUI SKILLS!

[zanzabar]

a SXS way to have your board walking the green mile by putting as5 on a pwm, migrating conductive paste on a pwm whop would have thought that that was a good idea especially when every1 says mx-2 or cermiq (mx-2 being preferred)


i hope that u didnt also as5 your grafix card

[SXS]

a SXS way to have your board walking the green mile by putting as5 on a pwm, migrating conductive paste on a pwm whop would have thought that that was a good idea especially when every1 says mx-2 or cermiq (mx-2 being preferred)


i hope that u didnt also as5 your grafix card

Good point... but that was more of an issue before version 5 came out.

"Arctic Silver 5 contains over 88% thermally-conductive filler by weight. In addition to micrometre sized silver, Arctic Silver 5 also contains sub-micrometre zinc oxide, aluminum oxide and boron nitride particles."

It should be noted that AS5, although slightly conductive and capacitive, is not as great a danger to electronics as believed. Its ability to capacitively couple adjacent traces only becomes a problem under high pressure.

[Sem]

a SXS way to have your board walking the green mile by putting as5 on a pwm, migrating conductive paste on a pwm whop would have thought that that was a good idea especially when every1 says mx-2 or cermiq (mx-2 being preferred)


i hope that u didnt also as5 your grafix card

ages ago during my foolish years i used AS5 on my 6800 Ultra
a little bit got on the contacts and thought i killed the card when it wouldnt boot up
i cleaned it up and then it worked again
after that i dont bother with AS5 anymore i only use ceramique or more recently mx-2

[SXS]

It is not a real conductor, it is rather more a capacitive substance, it will change the impedance across electrical points if under pressure. When applying, you just need to be careful to just spread a thin layer where you need it. AS5 does not run, it cures over 200-250 hours, becomes a thick gasket clay type material and thats when it comes to its own. The problem with many reviewers is that they dont cure the damn thing before testing its ability against other compounds. If you let it cure across 200 hours of continuous hot-cold cycling (regular PC on sessions and the switched off overnight etc)... you will notice its thermal conductivity improves over time, from 2-5degress in most cases...

Correct application is 9 tenths of the law in these things...

I use it everywhere, from CPU to GPU to MOSFETs... I even use it as toothpaste now and again! great stuff...

[asap]

finally, was able to run my DDR2 at 1020 4-4-4-12 2.3v, vNB 1.5v, OCCT 2 hours. Tried with 5-5-5-15 2.25v Orthos blend 16 hours, it's amazing coz with my abit x38 i cannot post with 1000 5-5-5-18 even with higher vDimm and vNB, will try memtest..

also, with enhance data transmit fast, enhance addressing fast and T2 dispatch enabled really add more speed

love this board

asap

[zfactor]

well i was going to be a member here of the x48 club.. the new board i got just went up in smoke.. burned up fet melted really bad.. so i guess im out for a good while seeing as i sold my x38 to get this one.. this sucks

do they warranty a board bought used from another member here?? if not guess i will not be building this for a while

[anubis_is_evil]

have u tried resetting cmos? or possibly bios update?

yes i have, my board already have the newer bios, but i tried to update it once again, but it still won't detect the cpu..

Looks like cpuz detect's it and if nothing else does after loading the latest bios then return the board.

yes, but it seems not detect complete of the the cpu, real temp is detect it but why only one core ???

the one thing is funny, when i attach E84 in the first time it does'nt detect, but when i start the computer in the next morning, it's finally detect it, oww it feel so glad, but now it's undetected again, realy2 weird going on damm what the hell happen here....thinks to throw this board away back to maximus again..

[asap]

sorry bout ur board anubis , go for RMA m8 it has spectrum warranty if im not mistaken, same as abit. I have 2 of my abit being RMAd and they are quite well with their services... unless if they already had their own ditro.

good luck

[SXS]

... but it seems not detect complete of the the cpu, real temp is detect it but why only one core ???

the one thing is funny, when i attach E84 in the first time it does'nt detect, but when i start the computer in the next morning, it's finally detect it, oww it feel so glad, but now it's undetected again, realy2 weird going on damm what the hell happen here....thinks to throw this board away back to maximus again..

Either a dud board or you got something funny going on in there, do you have access to another CPU other than your 8xxx? bang it in and see what happens... also check that all your pins in the CPU socket are pointing north all equally, also inspect your board - follow all traces on rear and on front just to make sure you or someone else havent accidently broke a trace...
First try the other CPU thing, if its still a problem then RMA definitely, but always helps to do a bit of investigation - speeds up the RMA process and also peace of mind if you can suss it out... Good-luck...!

[Big Lar]

Just a quick question, whats the difference between 1.0 and 1.0A as to the video,ie PCI-E in bios?

Reason I ask is that I am switching my vid from an HD3870 which is 2.0 and bios detects 1.0A for the setting, and am going to an 8800GTX and just figured I may need to switch it to 1.0 in bios?

Thanks

Larry

[wilson]

Can any1 tell me the difference between using 400;800 and 333;667 because both give a 1.1 ratio ???
Thanks Paul.