ASUS Striker II Extreme

[Roger_D25]

I'm still trying to get fully stable at 4050Mhz (450Mhz x 9.0) and although I'm getting closer I'm still not there. With that said however I also haven't touched a single GTL setting either (despite planning to do so every day), lol! I'm gonna first work within the voltage settings and see how far I can get, then make my way to GTL tuning. Given your above post its probably a good thing that I haven't tested much with GTL's (since they might not be correct anyway). I'd hate to have spent hours and hours testing GTL settings only to find a new BIOS changing the GTL tables and make all my tuning useless! By the way the best I'd gotten so far is 2hrs 45min running Prime95 (v25.6) before one of the cores failing (always core1, well its actually core0). I wish there was a way to actually measure the GTL voltages for eacy core in real-time (using DMM). That would make life far easier but I've been unable to find such a voltage read point.

[slim142]

Exactly, I always get problems with Core 0 and Core 2 for some reason and this leads me to believe is GTLREf related, because if the CPU wasnt estable at all, it would be vcore problem and Prime95 instead of keep running, it would freeze.

We will be able to verify this either this week or next week.

[Roger_D25]

We will be able to verify this either this week or next week.

Is this because of the new BIOS coming out, or the new BIOS that is supposed to come out?

[slim142]

There is a BIOS that is coming out this week for sure which will "supposedly" fix isolated corruption issues

[Tyke]

I'm still trying to get fully stable at 4050Mhz (450Mhz x 9.0) and although I'm getting closer I'm still not there. With that said however I also haven't touched a single GTL setting either (despite planning to do so every day), lol! I'm gonna first work within the voltage settings and see how far I can get, then make my way to GTL tuning. Given your above post its probably a good thing that I haven't tested much with GTL's (since they might not be correct anyway). I'd hate to have spent hours and hours testing GTL settings only to find a new BIOS changing the GTL tables and make all my tuning useless! By the way the best I'd gotten so far is 2hrs 45min running Prime95 (v25.6) before one of the cores failing (always core1, well its actually core0). I wish there was a way to actually measure the GTL voltages for eacy core in real-time (using DMM). That would make life far easier but I've been unable to find such a voltage read point.

I have my QX9770 absolutely stable at 4.05GHz with 1.375V set for VCore in bios, LLC enabled. This gives me 1.42V in windows actual vcore. All GTL/VTT set to Auto. Prime 95 stable for 24 hours!! Also stable playing Crysis for 4 hours. Temps max at 60ºC. Haven't tried reducing the vcore yet.

[nuclearjock]

I have my QX9770 absolutely stable at 4.05GHz with 1.375V set for VCore in bios, LLC enabled. This gives me 1.42V in windows actual vcore. All GTL/VTT set to Auto. Prime 95 stable for 24 hours!! Also stable playing Crysis for 4 hours. Temps max at 60ºC. Haven't tried reducing the vcore yet.

Given past posts regarding 45nm's nuking @>1.4v Vcore, consider yourself brave at heart.

[Tyke]

Given past posts regarding 45nm's nuking @>1.4v Vcore, consider yourself brave at heart.

Can you link me to one of these posts as I have never seen one? As far as I am aware 1.45 is a safe limit for this chip, unless I have missed something. I read that high VTT (over 1.4V) is more likely to cause damage, are you sure this is not what you have read?

[andymg350]

i was going to say the same thing, about 1.4-45 vcore is safe for 45nm chips but when going into the 1.4v ranges in vtt it can start to damage and degrade cpus.
ive been following the 3x 790i threads since i got my striker II and ive been reading the different reviews about the chipsets not just my particular board including the one from anandtech and im pretty sure they state that 1.4 is safe voltage for vcore on 45nm.

[slim142]

But 1.42 is over the safety line.
Also, more than 1.36v for VTT is not safe according to anandtech

I am trying to keep the voltages as LOW as possible, I hate to have them high when I know they can be lowered.

[toyzruz]

Hi slim,
I know you're still testing your configuration ... but are the settings (posted in your signature) stable? Can I give them a try?

[DaMulta]

So what does everyone think?

CPU dead

memory dead

motherboard dead


I was crussing along day 3 at -30 and my machine shut down. When I push power the fans spin for 1 sec then turn off.

Now I flashed the bios, let the board set for two weeks, pulled it out of the case put on the stock fan, and it does the samething. Now the CPU acted like this when the cooler wasent on all the way on this board. So this leads me to belive that the CPU is what died.

What does everyone think?

Well I got a new QX9650 in last week, and that's what it was. I replaced the cpu and bam it came right up.

[slim142]

Hi slim,
I know you're still testing your configuration ... but are the settings (posted in your signature) stable? Can I give them a try?

I answered you here
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...179184&page=58

[Tyke]

But 1.42 is over the safety line.
Also, more than 1.36v for VTT is not safe according to anandtech

I am trying to keep the voltages as LOW as possible, I hate to have them high when I know they can be lowered.

I understand your desire to keep voltages as low as possible, but doing this and heavy overclocking are usually not compatible Where do you get the info that 1.42 is over the safety line from, I have never heard this before?

[Justifire]

It all depends on good cooling.
Maybe 1.4v is the max save voltage on air, on water or anything colder it definatly isn't.
I always tell myself, if it keeps running it's ok

[nuclearjock]

Can you link me to one of these posts as I have never seen one? As far as I am aware 1.45 is a safe limit for this chip, unless I have missed something. I read that high VTT (over 1.4V) is more likely to cause damage, are you sure this is not what you have read?

Victor Wang lost one @1.45v.

Link

[slim142]

I understand your desire to keep voltages as low as possible, but doing this and heavy overclocking are usually not compatible Where do you get the info that 1.42 is over the safety line from, I have never heard this before?

I understand, but keep in mind most users here are using air and AFAIK, people dont recommend more than 1.40 (after overvoltage) for any 45nm CPU and thats why I said 1.42 over the safety line, by a bit, but it still is.

It all depends on good cooling.
Maybe 1.4v is the max save voltage on air, on water or anything colder it definatly isn't.
I always tell myself, if it keeps running it's ok

Exactly, if you are on water, then go ahead, probably 1.45v is not a problem as long as you get good temps. However, because you are on water, doesnt mean the processor has changed, is still a 45nm cpu which you have to take care of unless you have money that you dont mind to spend...

[Roger_D25]

Tyke - Thanks for posting your experience at 4.05Ghz, much apprecaited (at least I know its possible)! YGPM

[nuclearjock]

Slim142, I have to say I really admire your tenacity for trying to achieve apparent infinite stability with this board and BIOS(s). Your dedication is commendable...

Currently I'm playing with a boxed E8500, my QX9650 is taking a rest for awhile.

FSB = linked and synced @1801
8.5 multi (3.8ghz)
Vcore = 1.2375 bios, 1.24 load LLC disabled
Vdim = 1.76 bios ~1.78 real (8-7-6-15 1T)
nb = 1.38
vtt = 1.28
pll = 1.5
sb = 1.5

nb ref gtl = +.20mv

system is occt and prime stable for at least 1 hour, (haven't gone further), and I can game till the cows come home with no probs, (Crysis and MS FSX and FS9).

Thing is, I think you're trying to stabilize a board with almost decent bios(s) and it's going to be at least a challenge.

I'm waiting for the final polished version before I start long term stability testing, but at this point it's almost trivial since the system is stable enough for gaming.

(btw, I like 0511 and am currently on 0703).

You realize that when I say I'm waiting for the final polished version, I'm putting my faith in Asus tech. That's scary...

Just look in their forum and read the horror stories, people ready to threaten legal action, etc.

Anyway, I think the board's overpriced but it works ok and I have no SLI issues so all's pretty good.

Good luck in your quest for ultimate stability.

My head's in the sand with "ok" stability at this point.

[Roger_D25]

Your bring up a great point nuclearjock about taking stability with a grain of salt (so to speak) until we actually get a polished BIOS version (if it happens). I'm not sure why it didn't dawn on me until reading your post but spending hours and hours trying to get Prime95 stable for 24+hrs on a Beta BIOS version seems a bit silly to me know. Especially since I'm also able to game with no issues what-so-ever. Now I should mention that stability is very important to me (even if its only important to me and not needed to actually use my computer) but whats the point unitl we get a sorted BIOS? By the way thanks for posted your settings above, very helpful!

[Joonas612]

I'm having trouble with my Striker II Extreme bios. For some reason some of the oc settings were locked and updating to 0703 didn't help . When I "updated" to 0602 some of the options were unlocked but not all of them. Which bios version works best?

Currently I have Q9450 @ 3,5Ghz easily. My goal is that I could run 3DMark06 or at least SuperPI with 4Ghz. What kind of bios settings would you recomend to get it stable?

I also have 1600Mhz 2x2Gb 1,8 V. Do they need changes?

[nuclearjock]

I'm having trouble with my Striker II Extreme bios. For some reason some of the oc settings were locked and updating to 0703 didn't help . When I "updated" to 0602 some of the options were unlocked but not all of them. Which bios version works best?

Currently I have Q9450 @ 3,5Ghz easily. My goal is that I could run 3DMark06 or at least SuperPI with 4Ghz. What kind of bios settings would you recomend to get it stable?

I also have 1600Mhz 2x2Gb 1,8 V. Do they need changes?

Nothing is "locked". You just haven't made the correct selections to enable the options you're refering to. But you need to be more specific about the "locked" settings you're refering to..

[Joonas612]

With 0703 every thing between Memory Level Up and LTD Frequency were locked. Now with 0602 AI overclock tuner and FSB - memory clock mode are the only ones locked.

[BenchZowner]

You need to set the AI Tuner ( or something else, don't remember the setting's name at the moment ) to manual to have full control over the settings @ Extreme Tweaker menu

[Joonas612]

You need to set the AI Tuner ( or something else, don't remember the setting's name at the moment ) to manual to have full control over the settings @ Extreme Tweaker menu

I know that but AI overclock tuner is locked:

http://www.techspot.com/articles-inf...es/BIOS_01.jpg

That's not my bios but AI overclock tuner is grey in my bios.

I was wondering which version of bios people use with Striker and get everything to work?

[pmp]

Striker II Extreme BIOS build 0704 :-)