ASUS Maximus Formula SE

[zlojack]

You mean removing the CMOS battery and placing it back again?

Yeah. Some guys have had to do that when their board gets completely stuck.

But try with one stick first and see if you can get into the bios and change settings.

[Nuker_]

Yeah. Some guys have had to do that when their board gets completely stuck.

But try with one stick first and see if you can get into the bios and change settings.

It works! Thank you for the help! I'm probably going to flah to that rammpage BIOS now, which I put on my littleUSB memory.

[Nuker_]

When I'm going to change to rampage BIOS it says "ID is incompatible" and doesn't flash... How did you guys flash it then??

[zlojack]

You have to follow the instructions at the beginning of this thread

[Nuker_]

Yeah, I checked that thread. Now one problem has arisen, how do you make a slash or a backslash in ms dos? But I guess that's not a question for this thread... I have googled on all possible combinations of words without success, everyone seems to know how to make all kinds of signs, but no one will bother doing a tut on how to write these signs. o.O :s

[Talonman]

Glad to see a few of us Pureblood Maximus boy's left.

I just wanted to make sure I had a few buddies still out there that would want to talk some 907 and 1004 trivia...

As a Maximus I can get 3.8GHz or even more, that is if I want to hit my chip with about 1.5V's and up. It's tempature would be fine, it's the chip melting inside that worries me.

There looks to be two camps to me on OC'ing a Q6600.

Camp 1 is only going to go a tad above recomended voltage settings, and just see what their chip will give them. That keeps them at 1.4v's or lower max. I believe intel suggests not going over 1.35v?

Camp 2 thinks with proper cooling, voltage isn't a problem, and will go close to 1.6v's.

I am not sure who is correct?

I wan't to believe camp 2 real bad, juce my chip to 1.5v's +, and run like the wind. On the other hand, my default 1.224v Q6600 is probably a pritty darn good chip. I really wouldn't want to do any permanent damage to it...

I don't mind however, making it squeal a bit though.

I also wonder about the Maximus burning up its power chips too, if I were to run my Q6600 at close to 1.6v's.

I am currently trying to decide what my normal voltage should be. I would rather just have one 24/7 setting, but am starting to consider using the 2 slots for saved BIOS settings more. I could make one for just surfing, and the other as fast as I dare go on my voltage. Under bios 907 I did take this chip up to 3.9GHz for a short 45 minute Prime95 run. It did run error free too.

[WFO]

Glad to see a few of us Pureblood Maximus boy's left.

I just wanted to make sure I had a few buddies still out there that would want to talk some 907 and 1004 trivia...

As a Maximus I can get 3.8GHz or even more, that is if I want to hit my chip with about 1.5V's and up. It's tempature would be fine, it's the chip melting inside that worries me.

There looks to be two camps to me on OC'ing a Q6600.

Camp 1 is only going to go a tad above recomended voltage settings, and just see what their chip will give them. That keeps them at 1.4v's or lower max. I believe intel suggests not going over 1.35v?

Camp 2 thinks with proper cooling, voltage isn't a problem, and will go close to 1.6v's.

I am not sure who is correct?

I wan't to believe camp 2 real bad, juce my chip to 1.5v's +, and run like the wind. On the other hand, my default 1.224v Q6600 is probably a pritty darn good chip. I really wouldn't want to do any permanent damage to it...

I don't mind however, making it squeal a bit though.

I also wonder about the Maximus burning up its power chips too, if I were to run my Q6600 at close to 1.6v's.

I am currently trying to decide what my normal voltage should be. I would rather just have one 24/7 setting, but am starting to consider using the 2 slots for saved BIOS settings more. I could make one for just surfing, and the other as fast as I dare go on my voltage. Under bios 907 I did take this chip up to 3.9GHz for a short 45 minute Prime95 run. It did run error free too.

Hey Talonman, although I now use a Maximus Rampage, a Rampage Formula and 2 9450s in lew of my Maximus Formula/ Q6600 combo, I did use the former at 1.5 actual for 4 months 24/7 and have a Q6600 G0 on air running 24/7 @ 1.5 vcore. The latter has been going about 6 months. About a year ago there was a thread asking who was running what at 1.5 and above 24/7. There were at least 3 pages of replies. It might be worth a new thread. Given your low temps I'd go 1.5 24/7 without hesitation if you were folding or doing something equally constructive. Running the high clock and voltage doesn't seem worth while if you have nothing utilizing 100% of the cpu while doing so. In that case I'd have 2 profiles saved. One for gaming/ benching. One for surfing and e-mail. My 2 cents.

Edit: And yes my sig needs updating. Just haven't gotten around to it.

[Talonman]

Thanks for your input WFO!

[Nuckin_Futs]

I've gone to 1.56 for daily use for periods of 1~3 months and back to 1.48v for the rest and over a period of 10 months I periodically go back to my 4GHz @ 1.56 for messing around or testing RAM and such for days and weeks sometimes so YES, 2 profiles work great for this. I do feel benching 24/7 over 1.5 is gonna show some wear after a point way much sooner then regular personal use. Mine are on at least 8~14hrs a day at most days. But I do leave for days so it gets plenty of rest.

[Amurtigress]

Hi peeps,

just wondering where the Part 2 of this thread went. My "old" bookmarks don't work anymore...
<waves hi to Nuckinfuts>

[Grnfinger]

Hi peeps,

just wondering where the Part 2 of this thread went. My "old" bookmarks don't work anymore...
<waves hi to Nuckinfuts>

the powers that be in there greatness have decided to merge the threads into 1 big muddy thread. It will be easier for everyone to find information this way

[Amurtigress]

the powers that be in there greatness have decided to merge the threads into 1 big muddy thread. It will be easier for everyone to find information this way

Oh jeeez. Did they notice why we split it up actually?

Well, where did the posts of part 2 go then, were they merged into this thread?

[Grnfinger]

Oh jeeez. Did they notice why we split it up actually?

Well, where did the posts of part 2 go then, were they merged into this thread?

Most of it is in here somplace, other information is here http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=179580
it is more based on the Maximus to Rampage conversion but there is a tad of usefull stuff in there

[Talonman]

Hey Talonman, although I now use a Maximus Rampage, a Rampage Formula and 2 9450s in lew of my Maximus Formula/ Q6600 combo, I did use the former at 1.5 actual for 4 months 24/7 and have a Q6600 G0 on air running 24/7 @ 1.5 vcore. The latter has been going about 6 months. About a year ago there was a thread asking who was running what at 1.5 and above 24/7. There were at least 3 pages of replies. It might be worth a new thread. Given your low temps I'd go 1.5 24/7 without hesitation if you were folding or doing something equally constructive. Running the high clock and voltage doesn't seem worth while if you have nothing utilizing 100&#37; of the cpu while doing so. In that case I'd have 2 profiles saved. One for gaming/ benching. One for surfing and e-mail. My 2 cents.

Edit: And yes my sig needs updating. Just haven't gotten around to it.

I started working on a 3.6GHz setting, that I intend to use for just web surfing. I will save the 3.8GHz + for games only.

My lapped Q6600 GO (L726B397) with a default vcore of 1.224v's, only requires 1.392v's to make 3.6GHz stable.

It did pass the OCCT mixed test for 1 hour error free, and have Primed it successfully for 4 hours. This shot is only a run of 1.5 hours, but just wanted to post a picture to keep things honest.

I only get about 42C max temp on my CPU @ 1.392 volts.

[Grnfinger]

Here is a 9x425 setting as well 6.5 hours prime blend stable, this is on a MAximus rampage hack but the settings will play nice with a Maximus Bios
All voltage is bios set not actual



Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 425
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1133
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 30
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [6]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

CPU Voltage : 1.475
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

[Talonman]

I just wanted to post a follow up, on my successfully getting 3.8GHz back and more!

My key, was getting new RAM. I baught one if these kits:
G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1000 (PC2 8000) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231145
I plan on getting a second!

Fixed me right up...

Everest Memory benchmark:
Memory Read - 8,547 MB/s (+ 2,562 MB/s)
Memory Write - 7,776 MB/s (+ 1,737 MB/s)
Memory Copy - 7,831 MB/s (+ 2,786 MB/s)
Memory Latency - 58.6ns (13.5ns lower latency) [/COLOR]

I have had my DRAM Command Rate set as 2T. I just tried the 1T setting and it booted with no issues.

Now I get with Everest Memory benchmark:
Memory Read - 8,653 MB/s (+ 106 MB/s)
Memory Write - 7,738 MB/s (- 38 MB/s)
Memory Copy - 7,737 MB/s (- 94 MB/s)
Memory Latency - 57.8ns (0.8ns lower latency)

Going to chack 3DMark06 score now...

Update: 3DMark06 just froze on me using the 1T @ 3.8GHz setting. Trying to decide if something needs more voltage now?

Using my 3.6GHz setting and 1T ran fine, but my score was lower! odd...

Going back to 2T.

[JH_man]

Any info the 1102 and 1201 bioses? Been posted recently:
ftp://ftp.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socke...ximus_Formula/

Edit:
I should go for the 1004 bios?..

JH_man

[Nuckin_Futs]

Any Q9450 overclockers here yet, to share OC experiences?

[crackbag]

has anyone found a way around doing sli on this bord? another dumb qustion.. since it does not support sli will a 9800gx2 work on it?

[Leeghoofd]

No SLI on this board mate, GX2 works fine on the board...

[Amurtigress]

Any Q9450 overclockers here yet, to share OC experiences?

Hi Nuckin and the rest,

I just booted my E6600 B2 out today and got me a shiny new Q9300. I came to the conclusion that an extra 100 Euros (155 USD) aren't worth the extra 0.5 multiplier points...

However, what about the issues of AFAIK all current boards with quads, they seem to hit the ceiling at around 450-46 MHz FSB.

My Q9300 is a SLAWE C1 stepping, and I got 3.3 GHz stable without any issues with the old CPU's settings. My RAM works up to FSB 500/DDR2-1000.

What is to be taken special care of in Quads, considering the electric differences of the two dice under the hood?

Any specific forum treads about it, perhaps with special regards to the Maximus/Rampage boards?

[MacClipper]

I did notice that my system would hang if ACPI was set to AUTO, once it was set to S3 it would resume without a hang this was on bios 907 and 903, 802 never had an issue.

On BIOS 1201, S3 sleep and resume works mostly fine in Vista Ux64 when set at Auto but slave PATA device (using 2 PATA DVDRW in my setup) goes missing on resume, needing a reboot. Had kinda same problem on my P5W which was later fixed in newer BIOS versions.

[sullysnet]

anyone try Corsair's DDR2 1142 (PC2 9136) in this board and will it work? Seems like it would Do you think there would be any big improvment over PC2 8500
thanks

[Nuckin_Futs]

NO, I haven't. I am still curious on how the 2x 2g kit of OCZ FLEX II perform on this mobo myself. Is the Corsair kit a 2x 2g or x1g kit? If at least a 2x 1g kit, I would predictat least comparable if not a little more head room or w/ less vdimm or maybe slightly relaxed trfc in auto. OCZ is defaulting to 50 or 55 trfc in AUTO for BIOS that donot allow loosening below 42. Others may do so as well.

[sullysnet]

Corsair kit is 2x 2G (4Gkit) it's not cheap so I'm not sure it is worth the upgrade. It would be neat to go to the 1333FSB Quad Core at some point and 4G of this memory but not
sure if it would make a huge difference

thanks