I always thought FUD was pro-ati.

Anyways, at least in terms of crysis, its actually possible that the 4870 matches 9800gtx performance. Since current rumor put it at 20 percent faster than the 9800gtx. However thats probaly an average, and crysis is one game it has alot of catching up to do.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...ew,1800-7.html

Crysis has always run better on NV hardware than ATI hardware. In some cases the lead of the 9800 gtx is 50 percent. So alot of people thinking the 4870 has to perform better than the 9800gtx shouldn't feel so secure about that. It has alot of catching up to do.

This gives us another lesson, don't base purchasing this card strictly off of crysis performance because it not necessarily a reflection of everything else.