X3350 Arrival

[ChaosMinionX]

It works at stock, it IS compatible. Overclocking isn't guaranteed....

You dont buy a Maximus/Rampage to leave it at stock....sorry but thats not acceptable... Its not overclocking isnt guaranteed, its that everyone has hit that same 440mhz FSB barrier, with the exception of a few that their chips cooperated.

[karl_eller]

You dont buy a Maximus/Rampage to leave it at stock....sorry but thats not acceptable... Its not overclocking isnt guaranteed, its that everyone has hit that same 440mhz FSB barrier, with the exception of a few that their chips cooperated.

What he means is that Asus never guarentees that you're going to be able to OC anything. As far as they care, if everything works at stock speeds and what-not, then it IS compatible. If it doesn't OC as much as you'd like, well that's your problem.

Eller

[lowtcell]

You dont buy a Maximus/Rampage to leave it at stock....sorry but thats not acceptable... Its not overclocking isnt guaranteed, its that everyone has hit that same 440mhz FSB barrier, with the exception of a few that their chips cooperated.

I haven't read the entire thread, but going by that statement, I guess I'm not the only one having issues getting over 440. Hell, I actually can't boot Windows past 435 Would flashing Rampage Bios help, or is this a dead end for now?

[mu||et]

I tell ya whats really funny is the ASUS P5E-VM HDMI OC's way above the P5E @ $100.00 less.

[STEvil]

What he means is that Asus never guarentees that you're going to be able to OC anything. As far as they care, if everything works at stock speeds and what-not, then it IS compatible. If it doesn't OC as much as you'd like, well that's your problem.

Eller

Actually the board needs a certain VRM spec and BIOS codes according to Intel to be compatible.

If it doesnt meet that and still works, well its just luck of the draw according to Intel (and some back-end work by the board manu's..).

[mustrum]

Check your memory dividers and how they're set (333/667 or 333/800 or so).
1.34V for the NB might be a little low, try 1.45V and see if that works.
Just set your memory at 5-5-5-5-15 and the rest on AUTO, and 2.15V on them just to be sure.



I've got a X3350 here which won't work at all on both my DFI UT-P35's, but it does on the DK-P35. Weird.

Divider is at 333/667. 400/800 results in same DDR freq but is not stable. Higher settings that result in 1066ish wont boot and need a cmos reset eventho the memory is 1066 memory.
Memory is set at 5-5-5-5-15 2.2v wich is the default settings and voltage it is specified @1066.

NB i had up to 1.6v but it doesn`t help.

Edit: The CPU has a C1 stepping. Bad news for me i guess?
Don`t get me wrong. 3.5 stable ain`t bad at all but i`d hate to run it at anything less then the maximum possible.

[Leeghoofd]

And more importantly will Asus swap our boards with it?

Maximus was sold as fully Penryn compatible. It ISN'T.

What now, ASUS?

My Maximus booted fine with the Qx9650, E8300, E8400... and a QX9770 C1 stepping, now since monday it is on 1201 bios and it works fine here, no need to rant in each thread ya Anti Asus attitude , it doesn't help the dude with problems at all...

X38 is pretty hard to setup compared to P35 at high FSB, 4dimms and co only make it worse... and many users get lost in the settings and just up voltages...Bios updates will improve stuff...

It's Intel pulling our leg here with all these new demands, not the mobo manufacturers... the latter having a hard time to keep up with their revisions and bios programming...

I'm moving on to P45 once it pops up...

[aussie-revhead]

When is P45 expected ?

[mustrum]

Anyone else having trouble witht he RAM dividers? Basically 333/667 is the only one working as soon as i overclock the FSB. 400/800 is 1:1 too but not stable. All the others simply result in a needed cmos reset wich is kinda strange considering my memory could make at least 1066 and is set with the according timings and voltage.

Edit: got 437x8 primestable.
Anything above that is a no go (450 boots but freezes when i prime small FFTs after just 2 minutes) no matter how excessive voltage i feed. This is nuts. I am 100% sure the crappy X38 board is holding me back.

[T2k]

Any chance I'd get better results than ~3.4GHz with Q9450?

[ChaosMinionX]

Any chance I'd get better results than ~3.4GHz with Q9450?

Doubtful, since X3350 and Q9450 are the same exact chip..... despite the standing rumor that Xeons are binned differently

I am gonna get an actual Rampage and see how it does with 45nm.

[RunawayPrisoner]

Any chance I'd get better results than ~3.4GHz with Q9450?

Not without a new board. Not really?

[T2k]

Doubtful, since X3350 and Q9450 are the same exact chip..... despite the standing rumor that Xeons are binned differently

I am gonna get an actual Rampage and see how it does with 45nm.

This is such a nonsense. I'll never buy any Asus product again, I swear, unless they release a fix in a month.

[situman]

Doubtful, since X3350 and Q9450 are the same exact chip..... despite the standing rumor that Xeons are binned differently

I am gonna get an actual Rampage and see how it does with 45nm.

I think you'll like the Rampage. It brought my X3350 to 3.8 before I sold it.

[ChaosMinionX]

This is such a nonsense. I'll never buy any Asus product again, I swear, unless they release a fix in a month.

Solid boards, but the fact that they were not ready for 45nm, and clearly have a limitation in BIOS with overclocking (usually 440mhz FSB cap) which was similar to the 860mhz ATI HD3870 Core clock problem, I would have to say its a BIOS issue, or maybe the board physically cannot OC it more.

I wonder how P45 will do, but I probably wont be looking at P45 unless there are a few 16x/16x PCIE2.0 boards.

[mustrum]

This is such a nonsense. I'll never buy any Asus product again, I swear, unless they release a fix in a month.

It's not any better on the DFI. I am not the only one having the FSB wall problem and it is definatly not because the DFI bios lacks settings.

[Xilikon]

Solid boards, but the fact that they were not ready for 45nm, and clearly have a limitation in BIOS with overclocking (usually 440mhz FSB cap) which was similar to the 860mhz ATI HD3870 Core clock problem, I would have to say its a BIOS issue, or maybe the board physically cannot OC it more.

I wonder how P45 will do, but I probably wont be looking at P45 unless there are a few 16x/16x PCIE2.0 boards.

If you get a true Rampage Formula, I would like to hear some results. I'm in the same boat as you with mine being limited to 8x440 even with full watercooling on board

[Jupiler]

Same for me.
I simply don't understand why my X3350 won't run on both my UT-P35.
I hope that a future bios release will resolve the problem.

[FiXeR]

If you get a true Rampage Formula, I would like to hear some results. I'm in the same boat as you with mine being limited to 8x440 even with full watercooling on board

Yes, here exact the same problem! Rampage Formula and a Q9550 C1. (Xeon X3360)

[aussie-revhead]

It looks like the 45nm fsb wall lingering on .

[T2k]

T2K -

If you can run a Q6600 at 433x9 or a X3350 at 470x8 (with C1E and EIST disabled and On Air) with a VGA 9800GTX OCd by 22% and DDR2 ram at 1150-1200 on less than a NB voltage of 1.60v on a Maximus, rampage or P5E3 Prime stable for 12 hours, I'll have Asus send you a Free Mobo.


Let's see the voltages and screen shots posted again at 480x8 on your Rampage!!!!

It's a Maximus Formula and my previous CPU - Q6600 G0 - was running ~475 stable everyday - above 3800MHz -, with ~1.5V NB, memory at ~1100MHz.
FYI: recently this was my everyday configuration (I use water) until I sold my G6600.
ASUS can send me my new, Penryn-capable mobo, PM me for my address.

[T2k]

It looks like the 45nm fsb wall lingering on .

Yeah, that's my biggest fear.

[mngdew]

Well, I've running my QX9650 at 10x400mhz until recently. I've gone through total six Q9450 I got from a local Fry's. They were all from the same batch with the same pack date, and they couldn't run at 450mhz and up FSB.
Then QX9650 surprised me by running 2 hours of OCCT rock solid at 8.5x450mhz. I had to give NB 1.50V though.

[MNX1024]

I would like to state that I'm new to overclocking so, please bare with me.

I'm currently having some slight trouble with my overclock. Before I state my problem, I would like to request some specific information from you fellow overclockers. I would like to know all your voltage settings, the exact number of your FSB and multiplier, and your motherboard(please state model number and chispet).

Currently I'm having freezing(yes, my pc actually froze, last time I had a freezing problem was from my AMD Athlon XP 2600+, my pc never froze when I overclocked my X6800 to 3.6) problems with my computer when I'm at full load(by prime95). I'm guessing this is because of an unstable overclock, I'm not too sure; it would be nice if someone can tell me if the overclock is causing the problem. It actually froze on me once when I was playing Counter Strike Source(which only uses 40% of my cpu max) for more than half an hour and playing a video for about a minute and half.. Every other time was from Prime95.

My overclock set up is 440 x 8 at cpu voltage 1.45v(BIOS), 1.416-1.424(CPU-Z, it flickers between those "two" number randomly), and around 1.375(I think that's the exact number) full load(CPU-Z). Every other voltage setting is currently at auto. I would also like to mention that this setup survived prime95 for a little over an hour, but after that test, it can't survive more than a few minute of stress testing from prime95.

I also have some questions on my temperature, just want to make sure if it's too hot or not and which temperature reading is correct. I've used three different programs to detect my temperature and all three displayed different temperature from one another. Those three programs are coretemp, realtemp, and speedfan. The readings I'm about to give are all idle temperatures if you want to know the load temperature, just add 10-18c to the temperatures there. By the way, these are the latest version of the programs. Here are my readings:
Realtemp
core 0: 33c core 1: 36c core 2: 39c core 3: 39c
Speedfan
core 0: 38c core 1: 41c core 2: 44c core 3: 44c
Coretemp
core 0: 43c core 1: 46c core 2: 49c core 3: 49c
The TJ max for all of them are 105c except for speedfan since it doesn't list the TJ max. If you look at the numbers carefully, from core 0 and onward, the temperatures increase by 5 except for core 2 and 3. Also, between the three reading, there's a 5 degree difference. So, which one has the correct reading? Does my processor have proper temperature ?And, is it considered cool? Also, it would be nice if someone can tell me what exactly is TJ max.

I would also like to know a list of program that can detect voltage settings.

Thank you very much in advance for reading my ridiculous long post.

[MNX1024]

It "seems" like I've fixed the problem now. I think the cause of the freezing problem was the ram. I have to manually set the timing, frequency, and the voltage.

I'm going to try lowering the cpu voltage at the moment. Once I hit the lowest voltage I can go, I'll post some screenshots.

Forgot mention that I'm also hitting the fsb wall at 440FSB. I can't post at all on 450FSB. I guess I can probably squeeze in one or two more FSB, but no point since I probably won't notice the performance gain.