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    ASUS posted "new" bios 1102 on their web site and it seems that this is not a beta bios.
    Only description is :Maximus Formula 1102 Bios Fixed it can not enter the setup of some PCI-Express SATAII RAID Card.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dostoyevsky77 View Post
    I have a weird situation: Recently, I added a non-SLI 9600GT to my system to run my secondary display. Last night, I took it out to compare benches. After I put it back in, BIOS gives me a "Keyboard/Interface Error: Press F1 to continue" error. If I press F1, everything is fine but it's weird: why is this? Has anyone seen this before?

    I've tried these: resetting CMOS, removing the 9600GT, reseating all other components, removing all USB except the keyboard, and trying the keyboard in different USBs.
    This is still perplexing me. Any recommendations would be truly welcome. I turned off F1 for errors, so it's nothing more than an annoyance, but the error unsettles me slightly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dostoyevsky77 View Post
    This is still perplexing me. Any recommendations would be truly welcome. I turned off F1 for errors, so it's nothing more than an annoyance, but the error unsettles me slightly.
    Have you tried a different bios ?

    I had some USB overvolt issue with 401 once I flashed to 403 it was all gone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dostoyevsky77 View Post
    This is still perplexing me. Any recommendations would be truly welcome. I turned off F1 for errors, so it's nothing more than an annoyance, but the error unsettles me slightly.
    Could be ich related; what's your pci-e frequency? You can play with that a bit.

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    Just popped into Windows to run 3DMark and get some info.

    CPU-Z Stuff:



    Everest:


    And she did 14,117 3Dmarks on 3DMark 06.


    I know it's a MILD overclock, I'll be getting faster RAM at some point, and more of it.
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    hi i changed my e8500 cpu gtl reference to 0.67x, and now it boots only max 320 fsb before this i have 9.5 x 450 @4.3 vcore 1.32 with no problems. I have tryed 3 motherboards: Maximus formula, Maximus rampage and p5w dh deluxe, same problem with each one. LCD poster says det ram, I have tryed with 3 different sets of memory. i cant understand :\

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    Quote Originally Posted by GiN View Post
    hi i changed my e8500 cpu gtl reference to 0.67x, and now it boots only max 320 fsb before this i have 9.5 x 450 @4.3 vcore 1.32 with no problems. I have tryed 3 motherboards: Maximus formula, Maximus rampage and p5w dh deluxe, same problem with each one. LCD poster says det ram, I have tryed with 3 different sets of memory. i cant understand :\
    the det ram issue has to do with PL settings once you find the right setting the issue is gone.

    Set dram static read control to auto
    and set trans booster to auto, I bet it boots...
    There is a chart to calculate the proper settings, dont have it handy atm for I'm installing a fresh OS but I'm sure someone can post it or a link to it

    Quote Originally Posted by OVERK|LL View Post
    Just popped into Windows to run 3DMark and get some info.

    CPU-Z Stuff:


    Everest:


    And she did 14,117 3Dmarks on 3DMark 06.


    I know it's a MILD overclock, I'll be getting faster RAM at some point, and more of it.
    If you set your ram timing to 4-4-4-12 what is your bandwidth then? or can it run at 4-4-4-12?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs View Post
    Is the RF hack adding any day to day benifits for the 45nm quads, more spacifically the Q9450 or Q9550? I seam to be at the 455FSB wall..
    My 9450 hit a wall @ 465. ATM, I do not have the settings or the batch. Will post when can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grnfinger View Post
    the det ram issue has to do with PL settings once you find the right setting the issue is gone.

    Set dram static read control to auto
    and set trans booster to auto, I bet it boots...
    There is a chart to calculate the proper settings, dont have it handy atm for I'm installing a fresh OS but I'm sure someone can post it or a link to it



    If you set your ram timing to 4-4-4-12 what is your bandwidth then? or can it run at 4-4-4-12?
    I haven't tried. Settings you see are SPD. Sticks are Crucial Ballistix. Perhaps I will try that later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grnfinger View Post
    I have never had an issue with S3, I set it to S3 Only in bios and has always worked for me for maximus or rampage bios. Flashing will take less than a min, it will take you longer to make the usb boot disk. Maybe try it out for a few hours and if you dont like it flash back. I just flashed back to MF yesterday and there was no need to re do my OS, everything played nicely.
    And now that my self inflicted USB problem is gone I'm going to flash back to Rampage today

    For 45nm c2d the claim is keep cpu volts below 1.45 and I think FSBT max was 1.40. I think cooling plays a large part so if your running cool enough then you should be safe. I was going to buy a Q9450 but the rumors around were very disturbing, so thats why I bought another ( better, lower vid ) 65nm quad. I like the wolfdales speed, the bandwidth is very impressive, but you cant match the power of a quad
    I may try it later today RF 403!What about max PLL on these 45nm quads? Is 1.632v too high

    I think I may want a new 65nm Quad though. So what is the current best batch or rev to have? Are the current stock at local stores any good compard to our old GO early rev? I can keep 'em cool, but can they take the clock mHz?

    BETA hacks? Are these BIOS rewritten spacifically for the mobos we used here, or can the actual RF download be used? If so then can we use the BETA v402 of the P5E3 Premium? Will it gain access to the multi CPU GTL control? If not, is somebody working on this for our mobos?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs View Post
    I may try it later today RF 403!What about max PLL on these 45nm quads? Is 1.632v too high

    I think I may want a new 65nm Quad though. So what is the current best batch or rev to have? Are the current stock at local stores any good compard to our old GO early rev? I can keep 'em cool, but can they take the clock mHz?
    I think PLL is 1.65-1.70 max but I could be wrong you may want to google that. I had the Intel paper but I just formatted and dont have everything handy atm, my NAS is still disconnected.

    I just grabbed a quad batch# L737B021 with a VID of 1.22 and I'm very pleased it will hit 4.0 with little effort altho I run it at 3.825 for 24/7
    I bought it from Zen and he bought it from ebay ( correct me if I'm wrong Zen ) Ebay would probably give you a better choice of Q6600's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonathankru View Post
    Hi Guys i have been really struggling to get my qx6850 stable @ 4Ghz.
    I can get it to boot into Vista @ 4.0Ghz with just 1.488V but it is not stable.
    I have tried setting the vcore right up to 1.55 and it still is unstable.
    Try to up the Vcore a bit more... also did you put TRFC in the bios to 55 or higher ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by OVERK|LL View Post
    I haven't tried. Settings you see are SPD. Sticks are Crucial Ballistix. Perhaps I will try that later.
    If they are single sided, 5-5-5-15-3-55-8-3 should get you 1100mhz+/-, 2.0v in bios.
    Last edited by cadaveca; 07-31-2008 at 11:13 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cadaveca View Post
    If they are single sided, 5-5-5-15-3-55-8-3 should get you 1100mhz+/-, 2.0v in bios.
    Holy CRAP!!!! They are double-sided though.........
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    Then you might get 1200mhz...

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    I would have thought that 2v on the memory would be hard on it, no?
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    Quote Originally Posted by OVERK|LL View Post
    I would have thought that 2v on the memory would be hard on it, no?
    Pretty safe so far, tested for over 3 yrs regular used PC's. Even some of the cheaper of budget can do 2.0v 24/7 on air. Better DDR2 can do 2.4v comfortably 24/7 w/ GOOD air and fan if you got it. Relaxing that trfc seamed to allow mine to use less at higher MHz. I can do 1164 at trfc50 2 2.24v.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs View Post
    Pretty safe so far, tested for over 3 yrs regular used PC's. Even some of the cheaper of budget can do 2.0v 24/7 on air. Better DDR2 can do 2.4v comfortably 24/7 w/ GOOD air and fan if you got it. Relaxing that trfc seamed to allow mine to use less at higher MHz. I can do 1164 at trfc50 2 2.24v.
    Well, have it running at 1066Mhz now, the next one up was a bizarre 1112Mhz, then 2xFSB after that which is 1333, and I doubt the RAM can do that.

    No errors in Memtest, and my 3DMark score went from 14,117 to 14,260 with no other changes.

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    hey guys I'm having trouble running 450 FSB on my maximus formula, I've tried every voltage option available
    that is with using a 6.5 multi and running the ram at 900MHz
    I've tried using the Rampage 0308 BIOS and the Maximus 1201 BIOS
    I'm running a Xeon X3360 (Q9550)

    the system posts but I either freeze during the windows (xp) load screen or get a blue screen during it

    any ideas?
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    Finally 10 hrs. Prime small FFT's stable @ 3.6GHz on air!!! Temps never went over 62c on cores, or 41c on N/B. Heres my settings, thanks for all the info I got from Xtremeforums and the people who helped with answers to my questions.


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    Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
    OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
    CPU Ratio Control : Manual
    - Ratio CMOS Setting :9
    FSB Frequency :400
    FSB Strap to North Bridge :400 MHz
    PCI-E Frequency:100
    DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1066 MHz
    DRAM Command Rate :2T
    DRAM Timing Control: Manual
    CAS# Latency :5
    RAS# to CAS# Delay :5
    RAS# Precharge :5
    RAS# ActivateTime :12
    RAS# to RAS# Delay :4
    Row Refresh Cycle Time :55
    Write Recovery Time :5
    Read to Precharge Time :Auto

    Read to Write Delay (S/D) :9
    Write to Read Delay (S) :5
    Write to Read Delay (D) :5
    Read to Read Delay (S) :4
    Read to Read Delay (D) :6
    Write to Write Delay (S) :4
    Write to Write Delay (D) :6
    Dram Static Read Controlisabled
    Ai Clock Twister :Auto
    Transaction Booster isabled
    Relax Level:1
    CPU Voltage :1.36875
    CPU PLL Voltage :1.52
    North Bridge Voltage :1.39
    DRAM Voltage :1.90
    FSB Termination Voltage :1.34
    South Bridge Voltage :1.05
    Loadline Calibration :Auto
    CPU GTL Reference :.063x
    North Bridge GTL Reference :.067x
    DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage DR2-Ref
    DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage DR2-Ref
    DDR2 Controller REF Voltage :Auto
    SB 1.5V Voltage : Auto

    NB LED Selection : NB Volt
    SB LED Selection : SB Volt
    CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
    Voltiminder LED :Enabled

    CPU Spread Spectrum : Auto
    PCIE Spread Spectrum : Auto

    Advanced CPU Configuration
    CPU Ratio Control : Manual
    - Ratio CMOS Setting :9.0
    C1E Suppport : Disabled
    CPU TM Function : Enabled
    Vanderpool Technology : Enabled
    Execute Disable Bit : Enabled
    Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled


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    USB Functions: Enabled
    Legacy USB Support : Disabled

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    Priming the Q9450? If prime or the PC just freezes, no shut down crash but locks up where I have to or get to reset, what is that usually the 1st signs of? I usually used to just get crach/restart or no crash or 1 or more cores error out but 1 or 2 keep going. Bumping the FSBT up a hair kept all cores good but PC fose after 10 minutes. Prime 95 v25.5 blend mores, full CPU stress is OK.

    Testing 433x8 in 5:6 aI light, boost off=0 (reported PL8), vvore: 1.32v (again, not sure idf it's too high but temps are good), FSBT: 1.456v, PLL: 1.632v, CPU GTL Ref: Auto for now cause I havent found the butter zone yet.
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    @Ric2L

    What is the CPU PPL voltage set to [as it's on auto according to your explanation]
    Also - you've got a very good CPU then - mine needs around 1.47v for 3.6ghz
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    Hey scottath , my q6600 can prime at 3600 with 1.3925 in bios / 1.37 actual , but its still not a 4.1+ cpu .

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    Isn't your a crap clocker? - you seem to say that everywhere on OCAU, can you post all of your settings? [or pm me on OCAU]
    Thanks
    I managed a boot at 4.1ghz, but highest i've been able to run 3dmark was at 3.96 - got good video card scores, but horrid [considering clocks] for the CPU
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    Will do , and no this is another cpu , this one is only moderately crap ...

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