I am hoping the performance of the 4850 is better than the 9800gtx because its a new generation(3800 and g92 were not) and should eclipse the old generation by some decent margin. Also because a gts basically offers the performance of a 9800 gtx and cost 200 dollars with a lifetime warranty(voltmodders need not apply), cheaper than the 4850 with its current price.

I want ATI to create a one chip, highend. A two chip, single die card is not the most sustainable, nor elegent way to create a highend because its just crossfire or sli on a single card. This to me is not true singlecard performance.

Half the fun of seeing records broken is because its not on cloned hardware.(although there only 2 or three different systems of it being made on). When I see a 9800gtx getting beat by a 3870 x2, I don't seeing a legitamate beating. If this were sports, it would be a two on one person advantage. Its also not a true reflection of gaming performance because the game still has to support sli or crossfire for the performance to be seen.

ATI is making the 3d competition, a competition of clones and this is going to kill alot of the excitement of watching people break records. The 4870 only going to be beating old records set by old g92 and other 4870s. Wheres the excitement in that.

Remember people this is xtremesystems not give me value like the latest budget website like slickdeals or fatwallet.