Real Temp - New temp program for Intel Core processors

[msgclb]

That's why we call this beta software! You guys get to test things out before I release this version to the masses over on the main TechPowerUp site. I noticed that you are using Vista. I didn't need to re-boot when using XP. The coding technique I used probably dates back at least 10 years so I'm just happy that it works. Could you try disabling the tray icon feature by using IconShow=0, running the program, exiting and then change IconShow back and see if the icons display properly. At the moment I'm going to blame all your problems on your mail icon. It looks suspicious!

I was playing around with the latest version of RMClock 2.35 and I was having problems with it leaving icons in the tray and not closing down properly. RealTemp doesn't seem to have any issues that way but I still need to go back and test every imaginable thing a user can do to try and screw things up.

It's probably Vista that's still in beta! This testing was done on the Gigabye system running Vista x32. The EVGA system is currently down for modifications.

IconShow=0

No icon in the tray. I had to kill the process in the Task Manager.

IconShow=3

It's not the mail icon!



If i put the mouse over the first Task Manager icon the tooltip shows the core temps, the second one's tooltip shows Core1 and the third one is the real Task Manager.

ADDED: The proper core temp icons returned after I rebooted.

[unclewebb]

It's probably Vista that's still in beta!

I'm glad you said it! The only thing I can think of is if I try using a larger color palette that might fix this bug. On XP you can switch back and forth without ever having to re-boot.

IconShow=0 No icon in the tray. I had to kill the process in the Task Manager.

Could you try the above test again. I wrote some code so that if you choose not to use a tray icon, when you minimize, it should minimize to the Taskbar and show the temps like it used to do during the early days of RealTemp. Some people like that feature. That's how it works in XP. You shouldn't need to kill the process in the Task Manager.

IconShow=3 It's not the mail icon!

Thanks for that pic. Maybe I should forward it to Mr. Gates as well.

You always get in trouble when you try to write efficient code.

Could you try logging off and then back on next time when this happens or maybe even hide the Taskbar / Tooltray area by dragging it lower off the screen and then back up again. If anyone finds a work around for this they'll win a prize!

[msgclb]

StartMinimized=1
TaskBar=1
IconShow=0

There's no indication that Real Temp is running except in the Task Manager's Processes tab. I noticed that the form flashes momentarily and then it disappears. It's not in the Application tab and no icon anywhere on the Taskbar. I checked all the tooltips just to make sure it wasn't masquerading in one of them.

I checked the Auto-hide taskbar and it's not under the taskbar. I logged off and on. Nothing changed. I next tried these settings.

StartMinimized=0
TaskBar=1
IconShow=0

This works as I think you designed. It looks like StartMinimized=1 causes the app to start minimized with no icon.

I did a Google search for..

vista taskbar source code

and came up with 553,000 hits. Ok, so most of them will be bogus.

[Unrealer]

E4300 lapped @ 3.2Ghz 1.42v (only testing what vcore i need...)
Ambient temp 23º
TRUE lapped + Noctua P12 (@ 1350rpms)

Core temp: 66º
Real Temp: 51º



I measured the temp @ TRUE fins and shows 29ºC...

So, the problem is the IHS contact with the cores...

[rge]

E4300
Core temp: 66º
Real Temp: 51º

I measured the temp @ TRUE fins and shows 29ºC...

So, the problem is the IHS contact with the cores...

The max gradient from core temp to cpu temp is ~5C.
http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/0709/0709.1861.pdf

At load, Real temp is reporting core temps as 3C higher than your cpu temp, which is reasonable, (assuming your cpu temp is not horribly inaccurate). Coretemp is reporting 18C higher core than cpu, which is not plausible as it is 13C higher than intel has measured.


Also on max load, the gradient from core to Tcase temp can be ~20C or more (see explanation below and note Tcase is IHS temp, not cpu temp which is between cores). You are measuring fins which is coolest part of block and across tim2 from IHS and thus cooler than even Tcase temps.

The gradient temperature from core to Tcase = Tjunction-Tcase = theta(core to case) * TDP (Intel's formula)
So at full 65W load (if tested under intel parameters), Tjunction-Tcase (gradient from core to case at 65W)=.37C/W*65W=24C
(or at 4W, undervolted, underclocked idle = .37*4=1.5, and remove heat sink and less than 1.5C)

Though the gradient is going to vary based on cooling equipment, load, and everything else...51C at core and 29C on fins of block is perfectly reasonable and nothing to shrug or frown about, unless you looked up the thermal conductance of each material, worked out all the additive resistances across each change in materials, and then tested each formula for accuracy, as intel does, and proved something radically different for your set up.

I think 51C is so good and 66º is a bit high...

Based on what?