Gigabyte MA790FX DQ6

[keithlm]

Keith

I think u cannot generalize like that,saying that the whole company and their entire line of motherboards and products not related to motherboards are crap is just nonsense.They made a fluke with the DS5 or its BIOS obviously and thats it.

Yeah... I know. They shouldn't let me drive a keyboard after I've gone out for beer.

But I CAN generalize like that. If this is the support we get with the 9850 on the DS5 board which is a fairly new release and not something that is EOL, then what can owners of Gigabyte equipment expect when AMD releases their 45nm chips? More of this same "quality" treatment?

This does not make me want to own ANY Gigabyte in the future; regardless of whether the DQ6 is a "better" board or not.

And at this point I say: It doesn't matter whether they "decide" to support the 9850 or they "decide" not to support it. Of course that would not be an acceptable path; not supporting a 125W chip on the cheap 770G motherboards is one issue... not supporting it on one of your "premium" boards is a completely different issue. Especially when you support it on the next step DOWN in your lineup.

I just wish I had read something like this post before I bought Gigabyte, it would have steered me clear of Gigabyte at all costs. I originaly had the the opinion that this was a "middle of the road" quality. Now I have updated my opinion. You do not want to buy Gigabyte unless you have absolutely NO OTHER CHOICE.

Sure, it was the only choice I had at the time I bought it. It was in stock at a local store and I didn't want to wait; I had just waited 5 days for my DFI board to get shipped back to Newgg. I didnt want to wait another 3 or 4 days.

But buying the Gigabyte brand is going to be the equivalent of taking 2 hundred dollar bills out of my pocket and burning them in the trashcan. Only burning money like that would probably provide some enjoyment.

[Lightman]

Some good news - BIOS F5C for DQ6 released!!

Took them some time to add INB voltage adjustment . Now if they only can add to that and allow overvolting (another 2 months maybe )!

[Aussie FX]

Keithlm You sure have my sympathy, Gigabyte have treated you like sh*t. I don't deal with their support anymore. If they can't get anyone there who speaks English It's only the most common language in the world afterall.....

However as KTE pointed out, you haven't got the top of the line motherboard so overclocking shouldn't be as good. I would have been angry if a DS5 outperformed mine for $100 less.

Dave Only poking fun mate.

Lightman How's the new bios.

rtz Yes you can go straight to F5 although I would recommend going to F3 first as it reflashes the backup bios for you too.

[keithlm]

Keithlm You sure have my sympathy, Gigabyte have treated you like sh*t. I don't deal with their support anymore.

Got a another reply. I guess they either ignored my last comment... or didn't really understand it. (Which is much more likely.)

Originally when they said to revert to an older supported CPU... what they REALLY meant to say was that I should revert to an older supported CPU and test to see if my motherboard itself is stable and has no apparent problems requiring an RMA. (And YES it works fine with zero problems when used with a 4800+ and the same memory. I can even overclock it... but I didn't really bother.)

Although their insinuation when they said: "if we decide to support the 9850 we will post it on the website" kind of made me... ANGRY ENOUGH TO CHEW NAILS. (Or rather I would break all the molecular bonds with my ANGERVISION® and the nails would just fall into powder.)

If they can support the 9750@125W but can not support the 9850@125W then they have some major problems that goes beyond the BIOS.

(If I underclock the 9850 to the 9750 speeds... it is STILL unstable; although it does take longer to crash/reboot. Actually I would bet that the "supported" 9750@125W is just as unstable... but I haven't seen anyone with a 9750@125W on this motherboard.)

BTW, just to let everybody know, it seems the correct translation of the word Gigabyte is: Ggthxbye

(Being stuck in a hotel in Ohio doesn't make me any more patient. I want to GO HOME. NOW. I hate business trips.)

[dyeager]

I agree with Keith. Their website was too slow around the time I ordered so I took the "Phenom Supported" notation at it word. You are also buying for future upgrade capability, which lack of 9850 support also brings into question. This upgradeability was the main reason for purchasing this over a q9450. Lack of 1066 support for 4 modules at close to full memory specs is also puzzling.

My quest for stability on this system... its getting easier to say what I have not replaced yet: Motherboard (RMAing now), video card, disks, os (reloading). I try to think of alternate uses for this motherboard and the Phenom 9850. No good choices.

More experience with SPD editing and debuggers than I would like. Had hoped to be pushing the system to higher limits.

[Lightman]

@Aussie FX
It is stable for me, very stable. I haven't tried much overclocking yet, but cold boots are gone, at least at HTT230, 2645MHz!

Update: I've now played for over an hour in GRID at 2760MHz! No problem!! On previous BIOS this setting was somewhat stable only to do 3DMark06 and that if I was lucky. Normally hang up was after 3-10 minutes !
So now I can tell that BIOS F5C is better and more stable for me! Let's try 2.8GHz (instant hang up before)...

[Aussie FX]

Good news.

I'm off to get it then.