ASUS Striker II Extreme

[cptkoulis]

i have been playing with a Q6600 G0 this weekend(my cpu is 8500) and i had no trouble overclocking it using 0507



I managed to hit 3800MHz using a TRUE 120,after 15-20 minutes of testing

BTW,that was my first OC try with a quad core plus i was basically using dual core bios settings

[TheHardCase]

i have been playing with a Q6600 G0 this weekend(my cpu is 8500) and i had no trouble overclocking it using 0507

I managed to hit 3800MHz using a TRUE 120,after 15-20 minutes of testing

BTW,that was my first OC try with a quad core plus i was basically using dual core bios settings

Very nice job bro

[Roger_D25]

I'll second that, great work man! That is why the Q6600 is still a great clocker!

[DaMulta]

So what does everyone think?

CPU dead

memory dead

motherboard dead


I was crussing along day 3 at -30 and my machine shut down. When I push power the fans spin for 1 sec then turn off.

Now I flashed the bios, let the board set for two weeks, pulled it out of the case put on the stock fan, and it does the samething. Now the CPU acted like this when the cooler wasent on all the way on this board. So this leads me to belive that the CPU is what died.

What does everyone think?

[MateoTTR]

So what does everyone think?

CPU dead

memory dead

motherboard dead


I was crussing along day 3 at -30 and my machine shut down. When I push power the fans spin for 1 sec then turn off.

Now I flashed the bios, let the board set for two weeks, pulled it out of the case put on the stock fan, and it does the samething. Now the CPU acted like this when the cooler wasent on all the way on this board. So this leads me to belive that the CPU is what died.

What does everyone think?

It sounds like a dead CPU?! Can you try another one?
Care to explain what exact bios settings / voltage you were using?
What does the LCD poster say when you boot?

[Leeghoofd]

Try the cpu on another board, or another cpu on ya striker... what do you mean with the cooler wasn't all the way on this board ? You didn't mount it properly ? That's one way of killing a Qx... when I had my dead CPU the board would come on and shut down after a few secs, I'm not able to do a flash of the mobo... it doesnt post at all... which seems quite logic...

Your posts are very confusing to me Damulta...

[DaMulta]

When I first mounted my phase I didn't get 100% contact and it was acting like that. I quickly seen what the problem was, and everything seemed fine.

At the time the CPU settings were stock, but that is not saying that it wasn't clocked up before.
I don't have another Intel machine I can drop that chip in so I'm just going to have to RMA it.

[RAID]

i had that happen to me before. hit the power button, fans spin for 2 seconds then shut off. it was a dead board

[psilos]

Guys any news for any program for rising fsb from windows for 790i chipset? As like setfsb/clockgen??

Thanks.

[sonofander]

Damuta, what psu are you using? Is it a thermaltake by chance? I had a similar issue and it turned out to be related to my psu

[Roger_D25]

DaMulta - Its tough to say exactly what the problem is (dead board, dead CPU, etc...)? I suppose the best and easiest way to figure this out is to test the CPU in another machine but its not possible in your case. Like MateoTTR said, what were your major settings in BIOS when this all happened (were you pushing this thing to the edge or was it setup for 24/7 use)? Also how well did you insulate the motherboard for the phase change cooling (it is especially difficult to properly do it on this motherboard given how populated the socket area is with components)! As I'm sure you know when your CPU is running at -30F condensation is a real worry and it doesn't take much liquid to conduct electricity! Last but not least, what bit of hardware are you going to RMA, the motherboarrd or CPU?

On a separate note guys I've never had any major data corruption in the past (enough to cause OS to fail or get messed up) so I don't know exactly what to look for. Well last night I was running some untested settings (2000Mhz FSB x 8.0x multi, RAM was running at 8-7-6 1T with P1 and P2 set to Auto). Well it booted right up without any issues but after a few minutes some of the programs I was using started shutting down (well I would get that generic windows message that said, "the following program needs to shut-down"). It happened with Orthos, Firefox, and a few others but the weird thing is that Orthos was running strong with no errors when I got that message? I just assumed that these programs were shutting down because my system was so unstable (and most likely it was the RAM settings causing the issues)?

I just backed down the settings to 1800Mhz FSB, 9.0x multi, RAM & 7-7-7 1T with P1 and P2 set to Auto, Linked & Synced and the problems went away. So I quess the question is this, do you guys think my programs shutting down was due to data corruption or just very unstable settings?

[DaMulta]

I'm using the Antec 1k PSU, I have another one I could hook up and try.
Wait----I did that last night LOL.


I insulated the board pretty good, used nail polished 3 coasts before used pipe wrap, and then smeared de-electrical grease over everything else. Now I messed up the serial number sticker when I did this for the motherboard, I know that I should of removed it, but I don't think I can RMA the board if I wanted to now.

I pushed the system HARD over and over around 1.7-1.75v, then on normal use I would just flash the BIOS back to stock. This happened during a run on stock settings.

Guys any news for any program for rising fsb from windows for 790i chipset? As like setfsb/clockgen??

Thanks.

There is another program like N tune on nvidia's website however I forget the name of it. The XFX came with it on the CD I belive, and I don't know why ASUS didn't put it on their cd.

[cptkoulis]

while testing my 8500 i came upon some fsb holes around 475 and 525.I didn't manage to get any higher than this,no matter what...



still using 0507 bios

[Erikz]

i have been playing with a Q6600 G0 this weekend(my cpu is 8500) and i had no trouble overclocking it using 0507



I managed to hit 3800MHz using a TRUE 120,after 15-20 minutes of testing

BTW,that was my first OC try with a quad core plus i was basically using dual core bios settings

Can you give me the bios settings including voltage mods.. OR even upload your BIOS config file?

What ram are you using?

Is it stable running a Direct X game?


Erik

[MateoTTR]

Note for everyone claiming rock stability:
I have tried shltloads of different settings over the last few weeks, and most of the time prime95+memtest will pass for 10h+, when other tests (that involve hdd/gpu activity) will immediately trigger instability:
- run the crysis benchmark tool with for instance 50 runs of 2 loops: the famous lockup can occur in-game or while loading a level. Setting vtt+gtlvref is key to work around this issue, as pointed out by 5010.
- install/uninstall assassin's creed from an iso on disk, do that multiple times in a row (5 times at least). Many settings that were stable with prime95, memtest86 and crysis can fail here making crc errors while extracting the large .forge files from the cab archives. I think the setting of ram timing jointly with vtt/gtlvref has a big impact here.

My current settings:
fsb: 1733
cpu: 8*433 = 3.46GHz
ram: 8-7-7-20 2T linked and synched
NB: 1.34v (more doesn't help)
SB: 1.55v
vcore: 1.35v
vdimm: 2.0v
vtt: 1.28v
gtlvref: -21 and -24 (lanes 0 and 1 resp.)

I tried vtt from 1.20 to 1.36 with all kind of negative values for the gtlvref (from 0 to -50), I kind of realized that:
-50 <------------------------------> -25 -------------------------> 0
CRC errors during AC install <---> seems stable <----------> lockups/freeze with hdd activity

that's just my 2c, honestly prime95 is now the last test I run when trying a new setting, because my 2 other tests are so much more sensitive.

[Tyke]

Note for everyone claiming rock stability:
I have tried shltloads of different settings over the last few weeks, and most of the time prime95+memtest will pass for 10h+, when other tests (that involve hdd/gpu activity) will immediately trigger instability:
- run the crysis benchmark tool with for instance 50 runs of 2 loops: the famous lockup can occur in-game or while loading a level. Setting vtt+gtlvref is key to work around this issue, as pointed out by 5010.
- install/uninstall assassin's creed from an iso on disk, do that multiple times in a row (5 times at least). Many settings that were stable with prime95, memtest86 and crysis can fail here making crc errors while extracting the large .forge files from the cab archives. I think the setting of ram timing jointly with vtt/gtlvref has a big impact here.

My current settings:
fsb: 1733
cpu: 8*433 = 3.46GHz
ram: 8-7-7-20 2T linked and synched
NB: 1.34v (more doesn't help)
SB: 1.55v
vcore: 1.35v
vdimm: 2.0v
vtt: 1.28v
gtlvref: -21 and -24 (lanes 0 and 1 resp.)

I tried vtt from 1.20 to 1.36 with all kind of negative values for the gtlvref (from 0 to -50), I kind of realized that:
-50 <------------------------------> -25 -------------------------> 0
CRC errors during AC install <---> seems stable <----------> lockups/freeze with hdd activity

that's just my 2c, honestly prime95 is now the last test I run when trying a new setting, because my 2 other tests are so much more sensitive.

Totally agree!! However I would settle for getting Prime95 stable!! I cannot get my 1600MHz memory to run at that speed at any settings. My QX9770 arrives tomorrow, perhaps I will have more luck

[Roger_D25]

MaeoTTR - I'm curious, I can understand how a failing 3D benchmark would be a good indication of instability (like the Crysis benchmark you mentioned) but how can the installation/uninstallation of certain files (like the large .forge files you mentioned) be an indication of system instability? I'm asking because I truly don't know, it seems to me that would be caused by some other type of issues? I ask because at the moment I just finished a 12+hrs Prime run (blend test with no errors) along with many different 3D Benchmark runs which also ran with no problems so I want to somehow test for the issues you mentioned above (but I don't know how to "install/uninstall assassin's creed from an iso on disk, do that multiple times in a row (5 times at least))? I also don't know what a "crc" is but I'd like to know so I can test for it. Is there any pre-made benchmarks that tests these things on a whole (like Custom PC's downloadable benchmark which seems to test archiving, multi-tasking, compressing, image editing, etc...)?

At the very least I'm pretty happy with being Prime and 3D stable (as its pretty much the only testing I've ever done when testing for stability)! Especially since just a few days ago I couldn't raise my FSB to anything over the default 1333Mhz or run my DDR3 to anything above th default 1333Mhz! Last but not least should I post my current settings along with some screenshots showing the benchmarks, would that be helpful for anyone (so maybe they could try these settings on their own boards)? I'd be happy to do so as I've found reading others peoples settings to be very informative! As soon as I figure out some benchmarks (ones that MateoTTR recommends to test for the above mentioned issues) I am going to install my QX9770, I can't wait to throw it in and start testing as I haven't run a quad core in this board yet! Thanks a bunch MateoTTR for all your help and time with this!

[Lu(ky]

MaeoTTR - I'm curious, I can understand how a failing 3D benchmark would be a good indication of instability (like the Crysis benchmark you mentioned) but how can the installation/uninstallation of certain files (like the large .forge files you mentioned) be an indication of system instability? I'm asking because I truly don't know, it seems to me that would be caused by some other type of issues? I ask because at the moment I just finished a 12+hrs Prime run (blend test with no errors) along with many different 3D Benchmark runs which also ran with no problems so I want to somehow test for the issues you mentioned above (but I don't know how to "install/uninstall assassin's creed from an iso on disk, do that multiple times in a row (5 times at least))? I also don't know what a "crc" is but I'd like to know so I can test for it. Is there any pre-made benchmarks that tests these things on a whole (like Custom PC's downloadable benchmark which seems to test archiving, multi-tasking, compressing, image editing, etc...)?

At the very least I'm pretty happy with being Prime and 3D stable (as its pretty much the only testing I've ever done when testing for stability)! Especially since just a few days ago I couldn't raise my FSB to anything over the default 1333Mhz or run my DDR3 to anything above th default 1333Mhz! Last but not least should I post my current settings along with some screenshots showing the benchmarks, would that be helpful for anyone (so maybe they could try these settings on their own boards)? I'd be happy to do so as I've found reading others peoples settings to be very informative! As soon as I figure out some benchmarks (ones that MateoTTR recommends to test for the above mentioned issues) I am going to install my QX9770, I can't wait to throw it in and start testing as I haven't run a quad core in this board yet! Thanks a bunch MateoTTR for all your help and time with this!

Well I was having the same issue myself when I had my S2E. I got it to pass PRIME95, Prime Benchmark 1.61 32M & 1024M, memory was fine, and I ran all 3DMARK03,05,& 06 benches and passed with no problems. Now when I try to play games like Crysis, Call of Duty 4, BattleField 2 I would get blue screens. Mostly on my QX9650 cpu. I had no issues with my Q6600, but then again it was not Prime95 stable. So I thinking this board does not like the extreme chips or all of the games need patches for the mobo/cpu combo? Anyways I gave up on the S2E and sent it back to the egg this week. Now I am looking for a new board that is QX9650 friendly..

[Roger_D25]

Well I was having the same issue myself when I had my S2E. I got it to pass PRIME95, Prime Benchmark 1.61 32M & 1024M, memory was fine, and I ran all 3DMARK03,05,& 06 benches and passed with no problems. Now when I try to play games like Crysis, Call of Duty 4, BattleField 2 I would get blue screens. Mostly on my QX9650 cpu. I had no issues with my Q6600, but then again it was not Prime95 stable. So I thinking this board does not like the extreme chips or all of the games need patches for the mobo/cpu combo? Anyways I gave up on the S2E and sent it back to the egg this week. Now I am looking for a new board that is QX9650 friendly..

Well besides just running the regular 3D benchies I've also been gaming at least a few hours a night (mostly playing R6 Vegas 2, Witcher, Assassins Creed, and DiRT). At my current settings (the ones talked about above) I've had no issues at all.

To bad you gave up on the S2E although I totally understand as I'm pretty close to doing the same thing (especially because I have no plans for using SLI in the near future)! Initially I was going for the Asus P5E3-Premium but I got the S2E for great price from friend and went for it! The real "make or break" will be how it performs with the QX9770 and given your experience witih the QX9650 I'm not hopeful

So what motherboard are you going to get, do you know yet? I'm very curious as to what route you go so please keep us (or just me) posted if you would? Also did you get any stability at all with the QX9650 and if so what were the highest stable settings you achieved? Thanks for your help!

[MateoTTR]

MaeoTTR - I'm curious, I can understand how a failing 3D benchmark would be a good indication of instability (like the Crysis benchmark you mentioned) but how can the installation/uninstallation of certain files (like the large .forge files you mentioned) be an indication of system instability? I'm asking because I truly don't know, it seems to me that would be caused by some other type of issues? I ask because at the moment I just finished a 12+hrs Prime run (blend test with no errors) along with many different 3D Benchmark runs which also ran with no problems so I want to somehow test for the issues you mentioned above (but I don't know how to "install/uninstall assassin's creed from an iso on disk, do that multiple times in a row (5 times at least))? I also don't know what a "crc" is but I'd like to know so I can test for it. Is there any pre-made benchmarks that tests these things on a whole (like Custom PC's downloadable benchmark which seems to test archiving, multi-tasking, compressing, image editing, etc...)?

CRC stands for cyclic redundancy check.
What's the point of install/uninstall: the game files are packed and compressed into large archive files (*.cab in the case of AC).
When the game is installed, the installer decompresses the game files from the archives, stores them to disk, and checks that the files extracted are corruption free by testing CRC codes (look for CRC on wikipedia).
This operation is quite CPU intensive, and involves multiple access to your HDD especially when the files to be checked are large (those .forge files can be up to a few GBs I believe).
So it is somehow a good stability test that stresses jointly CPU/RAM/HDD. I don't know what compression/CRC algorithm is used in AC, but this game more than others can trigger unstable OCs in my case.
Why doing the install/uninstall from an iso: if you install from the DVD, the access time to the DVD becomes the bottleneck and the install process is much slower = not stressful enough for your system.

If you want to setup a different test, you can try to compress whatever game folder (that preferrably contains both small and large files) using Winrar with best quality. Once the archive is created, you can open it and test it multiple times (winrar will check the integry of the compressed files using CRC).

I tried the above experiment but for some reason it is not as stressful as the *.cab decompression with the installer of AC.

[Roger_D25]

Great explanation MateoTTR, thanks for taking time! Since I have Assassins Creed installed and I also have winRAR installed so I'm going to give it a go. I will use winRAR to compress some of the AC files (because as you mentioned most of them are huge files) and then check the archives using CRC. As I'm sure many of you guys have read the 790i chipset has shown some issues with Data Corruption ever since the motherboards were released. Well do you think there is any chance that this Data Corruption is causing these issues instead of stability issues causing them (just curious because there are other threads devoted to this 790i data corruption and many posts there describe these same issues)?

[Leeghoofd]

How about being rockstable in prime and benches, yet a fresh install of Vista doesn't pass giving errors in copying files... yet the rig seemed stable on the OS preinstalled before the OC... 680i had this and 780i seems plagued too...

[Lu(ky]

well after talking with the the newegg rep she says I can request a replacement or refund and I decided to request a replacement and if this doesn't work and can request a refund after this. So I will try again and keep my fingers crossed. I never had corruption at all, I think it was a chipset problem. So I will keep my fingers cross and see what will happen. I am thinking of selling my QX9650 and buying a e8400 and a small phase unit from Nol.

[cptkoulis]

Can you give me the bios settings including voltage mods.. OR even upload your BIOS config file?

What ram are you using?

Is it stable running a Direct X game?


Erik

FYI the screenshot was taken while using a custom single stage

It is not stable,i was just checking max fsb for Qcores(so i guess my settings wouldn't be useful even if i could remember them ...)

i'm using 4 x 1GB G.Skill GBHZ always unlinked

[slim142]

For me BIOS 0507 seems to be doing nice with everything in AUTO LLC disabled and memory at 1.9 with XMP settings for RAM. So far stock was working good. Because IFX-14 is not compatible, I will have to wait for tomorrow to get my Extreme 120 and lap it, then on saturday build my rig since my case comes that day.

I will stay awake all night on saturday to try to maintain my system estable. I got some training with the even-more-problematic Striker I so I think I can tolerate this board for some time as long as issues dont become BIG issues.