The Maximus Formula Thread - Help/OCing/Guide/Rampage conversion

[ZenEffect]

nice! from your pics, i understand you have the gpu's on the external rad? the external rad looks like it could handle your quad better than the internal. but then again i see space for a nice 120.2 rad right in the back of your case.
now overclock your cpu!

nice work again

[jorgito05]

very nice!
now overclock your cpu!

Thank you,

I play with the OC sometimes, but usualy set it back to auto; Am afraid of doing some damage. Had it to 3.2 for a while running 400 1:1 on mem but when I would play a Blu-Ray it tended to flutter once in a while so went back to auto on bios.

cpu ratio:8
fsb frequency:400
fsb strap:400
pcie:100
dram frequency:800
dram comand:2t
cpu voltage:1.312
cpu pll:1.52
nb voltage:1.35
dram voltage:1.8
fsbt:1.3
sb voltage:1.075
load line cal.:.063x
nb gtl:.067x
dram timings:auto
dram static read:auto
trans booster:auto or enabled I think

[jorgito05]

nice! from your pics, i understand you have the gpu's on the external rad? the external rad looks like it could handle your quad better than the internal. but then again i see space for a nice 120.2 rad right in the back of your case.
now overclock your cpu!

nice work again

Can't mount a 120.2 on the back, my psu is a 1200w and it extends out of the case. It would be in the way of the fittings. next christmass bonus I will probably get the qx9770 with a new x48 board and ddr3, then I will build a better external cooler.

[ZenEffect]

Can't mount a 120.2 on the back, my psu is a 1200w and it extends out of the case. It would be in the way of the fittings. next christmass bonus I will probably get the qx9770 with a new x48 board and ddr3, then I will build a better external cooler.

i was thinking inside

[iadstudio]

Anyone tested 1201 yet?

[Nuckin_Futs]

cannot hit ddr 1200 can you give me your bios setting to give it a try. If you guys ever get your hands on some Trascend axe ram DDr1200 it is even better than these doing DDr2 1333 and alows a much higher FSB.

For RAM in sig @ 2.24v (5:6 @ 500x8) (I cant get strap 266 to hold stable for 1204 at my 480x8)

DRAM Frequency: [DDR2-1201]
DRAM Command Rate: [2T]
DRAM Timing Control: [Manual]
Primary Info : 5-5-5-18-3-50-7-4
CAS# Latancy: [5]
RAS# to CAS# Delay: [5]
RAS# Precharge: [5]
RAS# Active Time: [18]
RAS# to RAS# Delay: [Auto] = 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time: [50] = 50
Write Recovery time: [7] = 7
Read to Precharge Time: [4] = 4

Secondary Info : 8-3-5-4-6-4-6
Read to Write Delay(S/D): [Auto] = 8
Write to Read Delay(S): [Auto] = 3
Write to Read Delay(D): [Auto] = 5
REad to Read Delay(S): [Auto] = 4
Read to Read Delay(D): [Auto] = 6
Write to write Delay(S): [Auto] = 4
Write to Write delay(D): [Auto] = 6
DRAM Static Read Control: [Enabled]
Ai Clock Twister: [Moderate]
Transaction Booster: [Disabled]
Relax Level [0]

Anybody have any luck with the 1200MHz divider when 480FSB (the 266 strap)? I cant get it stable. What area of loosening might halp? 5:6 on 333 strap is fine.

[CaseMD]

With my new ram (sig) i can get 470 x 8 stable.

my max. temp under load is 58. is that too much for a e6600??

[Nuckin_Futs]

With my new ram (sig) i can get 470 x 8 stable.

my max. temp under load is 58. is that too much for a e6600??

That's very good for an E6600. I got up to 61c @ 475x8, but I know of many pushing 66c on certain rev. Mine hit 67c at 4GHz. Loaded. I had very early batch and it hit 501FSB and 4GHz so we got lucky. so I guess there're some lucky E6600's out there. And this was on an !975X P5WDG2-WS Pro

[masska]

With my new ram (sig) i can get 470 x 8 stable.

my max. temp under load is 58. is that too much for a e6600??

CaseMD, noticed that you're running BiosV1201.
How are you finding it?

[CaseMD]

i see no big difference to 1004. yesterday i tested 1004 if there is a difference in fsb and voltage but cant find any. (in that short time).
today i changed back to 1201.

[masska]

thanks, Asus is saying the 1201 has better memory compatibility.
Hopefully the 1201 wont fry another set of my tracers...

[CaseMD]

@Nuckin_Futs:

At what Voltage do you get 8 x 475 stable??

[aussie-revhead]

masska - what do you have your ballistix clocked to ? My 6400 errors badly at anything over 400 , so I got some team extreem 6400 which raised my clock ceiling to around 445mhz before they error badly too . I have some team 1066 on the way but Im starting to think my mobo is stuffed.

[beard]

Guys, what the hell is this?!

===================================================
ASUS PC Probe II

Alert Log Report

Number = 35
===================================================

[05.06.2008 at 06:27 pm] DRAM Ref Voltage Abnormal, 1.68 V
[05.06.2008 at 06:27 pm] DRAM Ref Voltage become normal, 1.15 V
[05.06.2008 at 06:27 pm] DRAM Ref Voltage Abnormal, 1.68 V
[05.06.2008 at 06:28 pm] DRAM Ref Voltage become normal, 1.15 V
[05.06.2008 at 06:28 pm] FSBT Voltage Abnormal, 1.70 V
[05.06.2008 at 06:28 pm] FSBT Voltage become normal, 1.33 V
[05.06.2008 at 06:28 pm] DRAM Ref Voltage Abnormal, 1.70 V
[05.06.2008 at 06:28 pm] DRAM Ref Voltage become normal, 1.15 V
[05.06.2008 at 07:34 pm] DRAM Ref Voltage Abnormal, 1,73 V
[05.06.2008 at 07:34 pm] DRAM Ref Voltage become normal, 1,14 V
[05.06.2008 at 07:35 pm] DRAM Ref Voltage Abnormal, 1,73 V
[05.06.2008 at 07:35 pm] DRAM Ref Voltage become normal, 1,15 V
[05.06.2008 at 07:35 pm] FSBT Voltage Abnormal, 1,71 V
[05.06.2008 at 07:35 pm] FSBT Voltage become normal, 1,33 V
[05.06.2008 at 08:02 pm] DRAM Ref Voltage Abnormal, 1,70 V
[05.06.2008 at 08:02 pm] DRAM Ref Voltage become normal, 1,15 V
[05.06.2008 at 08:02 pm] FSBT Voltage Abnormal, 1,70 V
[05.06.2008 at 08:02 pm] FSBT Voltage become normal, 1,33 V
[05.06.2008 at 08:02 pm] FSBT Voltage Abnormal, 1,70 V
[05.06.2008 at 08:02 pm] FSBT Voltage become normal, 1,34 V
[05.06.2008 at 08:03 pm] FSBT Voltage Abnormal, 1,71 V
[05.06.2008 at 08:03 pm] FSBT Voltage become normal, 1,34 V
[05.06.2008 at 08:03 pm] DRAM Ref Voltage Abnormal, 1,70 V
[05.06.2008 at 08:03 pm] DRAM Ref Voltage become normal, 1,15 V
[05.06.2008 at 08:04 pm] DRAM Ref Voltage Abnormal, 1,71 V
[05.06.2008 at 08:04 pm] DRAM Ref Voltage become normal, 1,15 V
[05.06.2008 at 08:04 pm] DRAM Ref Voltage become normal, 1,15 V

With both RF0401 (earlier) and MF1201 (later warnings). The last time i had to stop occt ram test because dram ref voltage stayed high for seconds! This is scary...

Please say it's a sensor bug or something.

Settings (MF1201):

Extreme Tweaker 
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual 
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO 
CPU Ratio Control : 08.0
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 
FSB Frequency : 447
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-895 
DRAM Command Rate : 1T
DRAM Timing Control: Auto (5-5-5-18)
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Auto

(these are all bios settings, not "real")
CPU Voltage : 1,33125
CPU PLL Voltage : 1,60
North Bridge Voltage :1,71 
DRAM Voltage : 2,18
FSB Termination Voltage : 1,40
South Bridge Voltage : 1,100
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0,63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0,67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1,55

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled 
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled 

Advanced CPU Configuration 
CPU Ratio Control : 8
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 
C1E Suppport : Disabled 
CPU TM Function : Enabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled 
Execute Disable Bit : Enabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled 


USB Configuration 
USB Functions: Enabled 
Legacy USB Support : Enabled

Earlier had weird drop problems with SB voltage (when occt, sb voltage dropped to approx. 0.5V for a moment), upped the SB voltage (and SB 1.5V voltage) and the problem disappeared.

These voltages are not final (most of them are more than enough), system has been unstable, after upping PLL it's been stable but these problems appeared. Too much PLL? Less is unstable though (crashes after 19min of occt ram).

[sesion]

Guys, what the hell is this?!

With both RF0401 (earlier) and MF1201 (later warnings). The last time i had to stop occt ram test because dram ref voltage stayed high for seconds! This is scary...

Please say it's a sensor bug or something.

Settings (MF1201):

Extreme Tweaker 
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual 
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO 
CPU Ratio Control : 08.0
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 
FSB Frequency : 447
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-895 
DRAM Command Rate : 1T
DRAM Timing Control: Auto (5-5-5-18)
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Auto

(these are all bios settings, not "real")
CPU Voltage : 1,33125
CPU PLL Voltage : 1,60
North Bridge Voltage :1,71 
DRAM Voltage : 2,18
FSB Termination Voltage : 1,40
South Bridge Voltage : 1,100
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0,63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0,67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1,55

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled 
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled 

Advanced CPU Configuration 
CPU Ratio Control : 8
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 
C1E Suppport : Disabled 
CPU TM Function : Enabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled 
Execute Disable Bit : Enabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled 


USB Configuration 
USB Functions: Enabled 
Legacy USB Support : Enabled

Earlier had weird drop problems with SB voltage (when occt, sb voltage dropped to approx. 0.5V for a moment), upped the SB voltage (and SB 1.5V voltage) and the problem disappeared.

These voltages are not final (most of them are more than enough), system has been unstable, after upping PLL it's been stable but these problems appeared. Too much PLL? Less is unstable though (crashes after 19min of occt ram).

Crap settings, im running 8x 450 with:

CPU PLL Voltage : 1,5 (1.62 real)
North Bridge Voltage : 1.57 (1.6 real)
FSB Termination Voltage : 1,2 (1.23 real)
South Bridge Voltage : 1,050 (1,100 real)

also try setting those to DDR2 REF

DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto

[theonlybabyface]

New Bios, Rampage-Asus-Formula-0401.zip

ftp://ftp.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socke...mpage_Formula/

[ZenEffect]

New Bios, Rampage-Asus-Formula-0401.zip

ftp://ftp.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socke...mpage_Formula/

already posted, and tested. 0308 is faster memory wise.

[beard]

Crap settings, im running 8x 450 with:

Q6600

I know it's crap, you think i didn't try serttings like yours? And as i said, i'm aware it's more than enough. I've tried everything possible. Seems like adding cpu pll voltage is the answer for me. I was so stupid i didn't try it earlier (with these exact settings), i was staring at others' setting - almost everyone use 1.50 from bios. I'm pretty sure i'll be able to drop almost everything now. I disabled loadline calibration (didn't intend to use it anyway), seems like those weird problems are gone (30min occt no voltage warnings EDIT: 1hr). Better believe those anandtech guys about vdrop, i don't want to consume my mobo and cpu just for nothing, vdrop rocks

[kup]

First post updated with new bios link.

[beard]

First post updated with new bios link.

Sorry, you're doing a great job, and i know i'm being annoying, but you forgot the new rampage bios in the rampage conversion guide

[kup]

Yeah, just adding it now. I didn't realise there was even a new bios. I've been away and had some financial troubles so not been following the thread much but I'm still trying to keep it updated.

[aicjofs]

already posted, and tested. 0308 is faster memory wise.

Is it really faster? or is it that they just changed some of the "auto" timings to different defaults?


I have almost all of my timings set manually, but I did notice Tref changed default from 16383 to 3120 for example when moving from 308 to 401

[ZenEffect]

Is it really faster? or is it that they just changed some of the "auto" timings to different defaults?


I have almost all of my timings set manually, but I did notice Tref changed default from 16383 to 3120 for example when moving from 308 to 401

its faster. i dont use auto settings.

[aicjofs]

Yeah I saw your pictures a few pages back, but you didn't show any timings in one picture, which was the reason I was asking. Didn't know if you were on auto, or what.

I see the same thing too but it's very slight, the everest runs have a little play which is what I attributed it to the first time.

[ZenEffect]

Yeah I saw your pictures a few pages back, but you didn't show any timings in one picture, which was the reason I was asking. Didn't know if you were on auto, or what.

I see the same thing too but it's very slight, the everest runs have a little play which is what I attributed it to the first time.

i will update the pics with full timings etc when i get off work if you want more proof. the everst play was taken into account, 0308 is clearly faster.