The Maximus Formula Thread - Help/OCing/Guide/Rampage conversion

[CaseMD]

i see no big difference to 1004. yesterday i tested 1004 if there is a difference in fsb and voltage but cant find any. (in that short time).
today i changed back to 1201.

[masska]

thanks, Asus is saying the 1201 has better memory compatibility.
Hopefully the 1201 wont fry another set of my tracers...

[CaseMD]

@Nuckin_Futs:

At what Voltage do you get 8 x 475 stable??

[aussie-revhead]

masska - what do you have your ballistix clocked to ? My 6400 errors badly at anything over 400 , so I got some team extreem 6400 which raised my clock ceiling to around 445mhz before they error badly too . I have some team 1066 on the way but Im starting to think my mobo is stuffed.

[beard]

Guys, what the hell is this?!

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ASUS PC Probe II

Alert Log Report

Number = 35
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[05.06.2008 at 06:27 pm] DRAM Ref Voltage Abnormal, 1.68 V
[05.06.2008 at 06:27 pm] DRAM Ref Voltage become normal, 1.15 V
[05.06.2008 at 06:27 pm] DRAM Ref Voltage Abnormal, 1.68 V
[05.06.2008 at 06:28 pm] DRAM Ref Voltage become normal, 1.15 V
[05.06.2008 at 06:28 pm] FSBT Voltage Abnormal, 1.70 V
[05.06.2008 at 06:28 pm] FSBT Voltage become normal, 1.33 V
[05.06.2008 at 06:28 pm] DRAM Ref Voltage Abnormal, 1.70 V
[05.06.2008 at 06:28 pm] DRAM Ref Voltage become normal, 1.15 V
[05.06.2008 at 07:34 pm] DRAM Ref Voltage Abnormal, 1,73 V
[05.06.2008 at 07:34 pm] DRAM Ref Voltage become normal, 1,14 V
[05.06.2008 at 07:35 pm] DRAM Ref Voltage Abnormal, 1,73 V
[05.06.2008 at 07:35 pm] DRAM Ref Voltage become normal, 1,15 V
[05.06.2008 at 07:35 pm] FSBT Voltage Abnormal, 1,71 V
[05.06.2008 at 07:35 pm] FSBT Voltage become normal, 1,33 V
[05.06.2008 at 08:02 pm] DRAM Ref Voltage Abnormal, 1,70 V
[05.06.2008 at 08:02 pm] DRAM Ref Voltage become normal, 1,15 V
[05.06.2008 at 08:02 pm] FSBT Voltage Abnormal, 1,70 V
[05.06.2008 at 08:02 pm] FSBT Voltage become normal, 1,33 V
[05.06.2008 at 08:02 pm] FSBT Voltage Abnormal, 1,70 V
[05.06.2008 at 08:02 pm] FSBT Voltage become normal, 1,34 V
[05.06.2008 at 08:03 pm] FSBT Voltage Abnormal, 1,71 V
[05.06.2008 at 08:03 pm] FSBT Voltage become normal, 1,34 V
[05.06.2008 at 08:03 pm] DRAM Ref Voltage Abnormal, 1,70 V
[05.06.2008 at 08:03 pm] DRAM Ref Voltage become normal, 1,15 V
[05.06.2008 at 08:04 pm] DRAM Ref Voltage Abnormal, 1,71 V
[05.06.2008 at 08:04 pm] DRAM Ref Voltage become normal, 1,15 V
[05.06.2008 at 08:04 pm] DRAM Ref Voltage become normal, 1,15 V

With both RF0401 (earlier) and MF1201 (later warnings). The last time i had to stop occt ram test because dram ref voltage stayed high for seconds! This is scary...

Please say it's a sensor bug or something.

Settings (MF1201):

Extreme Tweaker 
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual 
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO 
CPU Ratio Control : 08.0
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 
FSB Frequency : 447
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-895 
DRAM Command Rate : 1T
DRAM Timing Control: Auto (5-5-5-18)
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Auto

(these are all bios settings, not "real")
CPU Voltage : 1,33125
CPU PLL Voltage : 1,60
North Bridge Voltage :1,71 
DRAM Voltage : 2,18
FSB Termination Voltage : 1,40
South Bridge Voltage : 1,100
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0,63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0,67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1,55

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled 
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled 

Advanced CPU Configuration 
CPU Ratio Control : 8
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 
C1E Suppport : Disabled 
CPU TM Function : Enabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled 
Execute Disable Bit : Enabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled 


USB Configuration 
USB Functions: Enabled 
Legacy USB Support : Enabled

Earlier had weird drop problems with SB voltage (when occt, sb voltage dropped to approx. 0.5V for a moment), upped the SB voltage (and SB 1.5V voltage) and the problem disappeared.

These voltages are not final (most of them are more than enough), system has been unstable, after upping PLL it's been stable but these problems appeared. Too much PLL? Less is unstable though (crashes after 19min of occt ram).

[sesion]

Guys, what the hell is this?!

With both RF0401 (earlier) and MF1201 (later warnings). The last time i had to stop occt ram test because dram ref voltage stayed high for seconds! This is scary...

Please say it's a sensor bug or something.

Settings (MF1201):

Extreme Tweaker 
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual 
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO 
CPU Ratio Control : 08.0
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 
FSB Frequency : 447
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-895 
DRAM Command Rate : 1T
DRAM Timing Control: Auto (5-5-5-18)
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Auto

(these are all bios settings, not "real")
CPU Voltage : 1,33125
CPU PLL Voltage : 1,60
North Bridge Voltage :1,71 
DRAM Voltage : 2,18
FSB Termination Voltage : 1,40
South Bridge Voltage : 1,100
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0,63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0,67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1,55

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled 
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled 

Advanced CPU Configuration 
CPU Ratio Control : 8
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 
C1E Suppport : Disabled 
CPU TM Function : Enabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled 
Execute Disable Bit : Enabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled 


USB Configuration 
USB Functions: Enabled 
Legacy USB Support : Enabled

Earlier had weird drop problems with SB voltage (when occt, sb voltage dropped to approx. 0.5V for a moment), upped the SB voltage (and SB 1.5V voltage) and the problem disappeared.

These voltages are not final (most of them are more than enough), system has been unstable, after upping PLL it's been stable but these problems appeared. Too much PLL? Less is unstable though (crashes after 19min of occt ram).

Crap settings, im running 8x 450 with:

CPU PLL Voltage : 1,5 (1.62 real)
North Bridge Voltage : 1.57 (1.6 real)
FSB Termination Voltage : 1,2 (1.23 real)
South Bridge Voltage : 1,050 (1,100 real)

also try setting those to DDR2 REF

DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto

[theonlybabyface]

New Bios, Rampage-Asus-Formula-0401.zip

ftp://ftp.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socke...mpage_Formula/

[masska]

masska - what do you have your ballistix clocked to ? My 6400 errors badly at anything over 400 , so I got some team extreem 6400 which raised my clock ceiling to around 445mhz before they error badly too . I have some team 1066 on the way but Im starting to think my mobo is stuffed.

I hear ya,memtest returned more than 400 errors for me. Played arround with timings for ages with these sticks and nearly did my head in. Are yours Tracers, I didn't notice.
These are the settings that worked the best for me;
DRAM Frequency: [800]
DRAM Command Rate: [2T]
DRAM Timing Control: [Manual]
CAS# Latency: [5]
RAS# to CAS Delay: [5]
RAS# Precharge: [5]
RAS# Active Time: [15]
DRAM Voltage: [2.20v]

Everything else was left to auto.Ran and stressed fine for a while, then they died.I'm still waiting for the returns.Yesterday I was speaking to the guy from Crucial and after a long discussion about the issues these sticks have with the Maximus, he recommended to replace my sticks with 5300's.I told him 'no way'. He basically admited there has been a lot of issues with x38 and Maximus and that it was due to an incompatible bios. After all that he then went on to say that he would replace my red tracers with the black ones, as they have slightly lower lat. It doesnt make any sense to me because on their website specs, they are both the same.
Also just before mine RIPIECES, did a validation http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=349653 (check out slot 3).
Something dodgy going on here

[aussie-revhead]

I hear ya,memtest returned more than 400 errors for me. Played arround with timings for ages with these sticks and nearly did my head in. Are yours Tracers, I didn't notice.
These are the settings that worked the best for me;
DRAM Frequency: [800]
DRAM Command Rate: [2T]
DRAM Timing Control: [Manual]
CAS# Latency: [5]
RAS# to CAS Delay: [5]
RAS# Precharge: [5]
RAS# Active Time: [15]
DRAM Voltage: [2.20v]

Everything else was left to auto.Ran and stressed fine for a while, then they died.I'm still waiting for the returns.Yesterday I was speaking to the guy from Crucial and after a long discussion about the issues these sticks have with the Maximus, he recommended to replace my sticks with 5300's.I told him 'no way'. He basically admited there has been a lot of issues with x38 and Maximus and that it was due to an incompatible bios. After all that he then went on to say that he would replace my red tracers with the black ones, as they have slightly lower lat. It doesnt make any sense to me because on their website specs, they are both the same.
Also just before mine RIPIECES, did a validation http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=349653 (check out slot 3).
Something dodgy going on here

Very odd mate ....

I got this mobo as I thought this would allow me to get the most out of my q6600 and ram , and thats why I got a gx2 over SLi - to suit this mobo and combo . The issues with this are getting too much - the cold boots , ram issues and fsb limitations they impose - I hope they sort out a nice fast bios for us before I sell up . I would like to see a 4870x2 or a 9900GTX on this , unless I sell up first .

[masska]

I wouldnt sell up just yet aussie, I know this board has got some issues but its mainly to certain brands of ram (namely Crucial).Apart from that I think its a great mobo and with the right ram and bios, this thing works really well and very stable.I've had no issues with it except the ram. My Tracers should be comming back in a couple of days.I'll give them another go with the 1201 bios, and see how she goes. If it kills my sticks again, I'll toss the Tracers and get some OCZ or Corsair.At least I know there is no issues with these and lots of guys & gals are getting very decent numbers.

[Nuckin_Futs]

Who has tested the effects of the Static Read Control in more depth? I tested just yested ay again but in actual aps in use for editing. and Disabled it. Now I didnt run any kind of RAM test to confirm. What Windows based app is best for checking RAM for read write and overall performance with Windos and apps? I did notice, not sure if it had to do with Disabling Static Read, but I got several Windows Delay erros and cannot save errors. I actuall just lost 1 scratch drive. I am now back to Enabled. till I learn more. Remember, I am speaking of FSB of 480 min up to 525. So is this something spacific to the FSB and chipset internal timings as a given strap? I am 333 strap since I can use 266 in this BIOS 9BETA v1004).

@Nuckin_Futs:

At what Voltage do you get 8 x 475 stable??

For the E6600, was somewhere close to 1.50 w/ PLL to 1.63v and FSBT to 1.47.