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    PL7 w/ CAS 5...should be PL8...

    Over 1.65v starts issues with my board(real, not bios setting). maybe check bios reading and see if volts go over 1.65v, and then maybe lower them(volts and PL, I understand you voltsd are high due to PL used?)?

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    Hey guys, with my Q6600 I am having the over 440MHz FSB issue. 439MHz will be prime stable for hours at a time, but once I set 440MHz and up, it will fail Prime within minutes. Is this a FSBTerm volts issue?
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    Anyone had more success with a 45nm dual-core on the new Rampage BIOS? This thing is still taking .03 more volts to be 4GHz P95 stable then my IP35-E did

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade5399 View Post
    Hey guys, with my Q6600 I am having the over 440MHz FSB issue. 439MHz will be prime stable for hours at a time, but once I set 440MHz and up, it will fail Prime within minutes. Is this a FSBTerm volts issue?
    or Performace level needs to be changed. My board requires setting disabled "1" after 445...446 never stable unitl that one setting is changed.

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    The 0401 BIOS for the Rampage is requiring more vcore for 4GHz Orthos stable then the 0308 one did, for my E3110 Might convert my board back to the Maximus Formula and try out the latest release for that.

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    http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...2976/prime.jpg

    you want settings now or shall i prime longer?

    this is on bios 0308 btw. i get lower latency and slightly better bandwidth with this bios. i could let it prime for days, the temp wont budge

    you NEED to hook up that other rad somehow! mount it on top of case mabye? one on back on on top?

    *im rather disappointed in myself as ive forgotten which bios version i had when i could do the same speed prime stable on 1.52v *
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grnfinger View Post
    450x8 is faster than 400x9
    You guys are right. It's the area where x38/x48 shines. Go for 450x8 if it doesn't require much more voltage than 400x9. I was first suggesting 400x9 because my nb requires a lot more juice for 450 than 400 (bad one)...
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    Quote Originally Posted by cadaveca View Post
    or Performace level needs to be changed. My board requires setting disabled "1" after 445...446 never stable unitl that one setting is changed.
    Yes, but I am running a Rampage. I am thinking it's a FSBTerm volts issue, but I am not sure. I am hoping someone else here has had this issue fixed for them. It's driving me up the wall!
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    So why don't you up FSBt and see what happens, and report back?

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    Well, because that's one of the voltages that can damage a chip. I am cautious about upping that voltage.
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    10% is safe 100%, AFAIK... so from 1.1v on 45nm to 1.21, and 1.2v on 65nm to 1.35.

    Anyway, you got 65nm, so not so much worries...45nm is defiantely something to play with with caution.

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    Hi there !

    Right, first post and done reading the 200 pages of this thread :)

    The current discussions seem to be how you can reach the highest frequencies with a stable OS. My problem is currently to have a stable system with stock settings, and I hope someone here have the solution.

    The (already seen) problem is that I have random BSOD under Vista and random segmentation faults / errors under Linux. I also have random Windows Services and apps failures (mostly "access violation" code 0x0000005 exception).

    Yes, it looks like bad ram modules and/or wrong settings. Here are the facts :
    - memtest86+ v2.01 returns no error (at least 10 passes, each module tested separately, etc)
    - memtest under windows : no error in 5 or 6 hours (3 threads, the faulty memory region may not be tested because it is already allocated by Windows)
    - OCCT : sometimes stable for 1h, sometimes crash in the middle of the test (code 4 in one of the thread or just a nice BSOD)
    - stocks bios settings : 2x2Gb of G.Skill F2-6400CL4D-2GBPK rated for 800Mhz, 4-4-4-12 (2T), tRFC>80 @ 2.0-2.1v, currently at 2.08v. Higher voltage or lower settings don't help, nor raising the NB voltage (currently at 1.4v).
    - most of the bios settings are on "compatibility" mode (FSB @266, Clock Twister "Light", Transaction Booster Off, ...)
    - freshly formatted and reinstalled Windows (with integrated SP1) : still errors.

    My system was stable for 2 monthes (with heavy games like Crysis or Stalker running fine), then it began to slowly die. I've double checked voltages and temperatures (Everest, cpu-z, ...), everything looks fine. The only thing I've not tested is flashing to an older bios like v802 or to the new v1204 one.

    The RMA form is ready, but I don't know for sure it comes from faulty ram modules ... could it be something else ?

    If you need some details, just let me know, it's driving me crazy.

    Thanks :)

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    PS: I'm gonna test the ram modules on a Asus M2N this afternoon, and I'll test my system with 2x1Gb of Corsair 6400 modules. Hope it will help.
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    Is there a difference between the white and the blue ram slots?
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    Quote Originally Posted by karmounet View Post
    Hi there !

    Right, first post and done reading the 200 pages of this thread

    The current discussions seem to be how you can reach the highest frequencies with a stable OS. My problem is currently to have a stable system with stock settings, and I hope someone here have the solution.

    The (already seen) problem is that I have random BSOD under Vista and random segmentation faults / errors under Linux. I also have random Windows Services and apps failures (mostly "access violation" code 0x0000005 exception).

    Yes, it looks like bad ram modules and/or wrong settings. Here are the facts :
    - memtest86+ v2.01 returns no error (at least 10 passes, each module tested separately, etc)
    - memtest under windows : no error in 5 or 6 hours (3 threads, the faulty memory region may not be tested because it is already allocated by Windows)
    - OCCT : sometimes stable for 1h, sometimes crash in the middle of the test (code 4 in one of the thread or just a nice BSOD)
    - stocks bios settings : 2x2Gb of G.Skill F2-6400CL4D-2GBPK rated for 800Mhz, 4-4-4-12 (2T), tRFC>80 @ 2.0-2.1v, currently at 2.08v. Higher voltage or lower settings don't help, nor raising the NB voltage (currently at 1.4v).
    - most of the bios settings are on "compatibility" mode (FSB @266, Clock Twister "Light", Transaction Booster Off, ...)
    - freshly formatted and reinstalled Windows (with integrated SP1) : still errors.

    My system was stable for 2 monthes (with heavy games like Crysis or Stalker running fine), then it began to slowly die. I've double checked voltages and temperatures (Everest, cpu-z, ...), everything looks fine. The only thing I've not tested is flashing to an older bios like v802 or to the new v1204 one.

    The RMA form is ready, but I don't know for sure it comes from faulty ram modules ... could it be something else ?

    If you need some details, just let me know, it's driving me crazy.

    Thanks

    C.

    PS: I'm gonna test the ram modules on a Asus M2N this afternoon, and I'll test my system with 2x1Gb of Corsair 6400 modules. Hope it will help.
    First off dont flash to 1204 just yet, members at ocforums have been experiencing problems. I wonder when Asus will get this bloody bios right so many bios revisions still in beta just screams bad to me.
    Now on to your problem, I had similar slowdowns and hangs with mine aswell and I noticed this happened arround when I installed SP1.It would take forever to boot and shutdown.I had issues with my ram and I know that cotributed to the other problems and maybe somehow corrupted the OS.
    Anyway, flashed to 1004 and reinstalled OS and SP1 and now she runs great.
    Just waiting on my ram to come back from Crucial, then I'm set. Oh and I wont be using the Ballistixs again with this mobo, (anyone wanna buy 8GB of the 'Red Ballistixs'?)
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    My Maximus Formula hates my Ballistix too (fails anything over 400mhz), and the low end team extreem is a bit better but still poor (fails over 430), so Im on to my third set of ram with this mobo , fingers crossed.

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    hey all this is my first post, i've been looking around this forums for a while now and just got my account activated.

    My old Maximus Formula hated the Ballistixs i went through 3 pairs and finely the 3rd pair seemed to work fine. I sold off my Maximus Formula along with my Q6600 to my friend cos he wanted one and couldent find one. So far with my Rampage Formula the real retail version no Maximus Formula to Rampage Formula conversion that i did to my Maximus Formula for my friend. The Ballistixs were running fine @ 5-5-5-15 1200MHz 2.26V. haven't run Memtest86+ but im very sure that their stable and ok.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaseMD View Post
    Is there a difference between the white and the blue ram slots?
    Nope.

    I've just tested the modules in a M2N (Asus) with "auto" timings (something like 5-6-6-18, I guess the board can't read the SPD properly), and memtest86 returned many errors in the very first pass. However, I couldn't set the ram voltage above 1.9v (bios too old or just impossible with this board).

    Fine. Time to use this RMA form ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by aussie-revhead View Post
    My Maximus Formula hates my Ballistix too (fails anything over 400mhz), and the low end team extreem is a bit better but still poor (fails over 430), so Im on to my third set of ram with this mobo , fingers crossed.

    Really? Then that might be why my CPU kept failing P95 when I knew it was more then capable with the amount of voltage I was putting into them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aussie-revhead View Post
    My Maximus Formula hates my Ballistix too (fails anything over 400mhz), and the low end team extreem is a bit better but still poor (fails over 430), so Im on to my third set of ram with this mobo , fingers crossed.

    I must be really lucky, then. I've never had a problem with my Ballistix! I'm on my second board, but still my first set of RAM!
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    Quote Originally Posted by aussie-revhead View Post
    My Maximus Formula hates my Ballistix too (fails anything over 400mhz), and the low end team extreem is a bit better but still poor (fails over 430), so Im on to my third set of ram with this mobo , fingers crossed.

    I never had a problem with 4 gigs of ballistixs. I'm now running 8gbs of OCZ HPC PC 8500 at close to ddr2 1000. My NB volts are also really really low compared to some guys here. I'm only pushing 1.41 (what asus probe reads in windows). PL 5 or 6 I forget which one 5-5-5-15.
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    Guys, and gals...

    Hi, when you are going on about the issues with Crucial Memory sticks, can you possibly make the distinction whether they are with the Tracers, or with the ordinary Ballistixs.

    I do feel that the majority of issues might be with the Tracers and not with the modules I am using, and have been since last november, and it would clarify things a bit more.
    Thanks..
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    haha Dosto its me badboychris from NVIDIA Forums, we must be the lucky 2 then
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    Quote Originally Posted by cuke2u View Post
    Guys, and gals...

    Hi, when you are going on about the issues with Crucial Memory sticks, can you possibly make the distinction whether they are with the Tracers, or with the ordinary Ballistixs.

    I do feel that the majority of issues might be with the Tracers and not with the modules I am using, and have been since last november, and it would clarify things a bit more.
    Thanks..
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    I have the tracers. I do not believe there is a difference between them and the non-Tracer versions.

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    There is a new BIOS for Maximus formula, on ftp site, 1201 no info about changes.

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    Thanks for the tip!
    ftp://ftp.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socke...ximus_Formula/
    Maybe I'll be able to get my FSB past 444 MHz with this BIOS.

    Quote Originally Posted by mazzy View Post
    There is a new BIOS for Maximus formula, on ftp site, 1201 no info about changes.
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