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    nezzari: I'll admit, the MHz feature is a work in progress. I plan to do a few tweaks to it in the next day or so but I need some user feedback. There is a feature built into RealTemp that if you right click the mouse on an empty part of the dialog, it will try to re-calculate your MHz. If that gets it right or if that still doesn't help then let me know. Calculating MHz is easy but getting it to work properly with ClockGen and SetFSB takes a little more work. It seems to be working properly on a lot of computers.

    Graysky: Maybe I should rename the Idle calibration feature because for a lot of users with low load temps, the Idle calibration feature will effect your load temps as well. That is not a mistake on my part. The reason for this is that according to my graph in the documentation, the DTS is only linear with changes in core temperature within approximately 35C of TjMax. At your load temps, you are outside the range where the DTS is 100% accurate so you still need a slight calibration factor. I have a couple of minor fixes to do and I also plan to add temperatures to the Tray icon this week to keep the fans happy. After that I will do some more extensive testing to see if the idle calibration feature needs any adjustments. I know it is very close as is if you select the right factor but I also know it is never going to be perfect because I can't test every processor. It will definitely help get your temperatures closer to the truth.

    GamingAddict: Your average reported temperature across your 4 cores is 28.5C which is about equal to your room temperature of 29C. That is exactly what I was expecting to see and helps prove that TjMax really is 85C for your B3 Quad. I know people will continue to doubt this because they have been brainwashed with TjMax=100C by the competition. I'll show you some pics tomorrow of my G0 Q6600 which shows the same core temp vs ambient temp during this test when using TjMax=95C for it.

    My E6400 - B2, which is very similar to the Dual Cores contained in your B3 Quad, needed a +2 idle calibration. I think +2 on core0 for you would be perfect and the other 3 cores should probably have a correction of about 2.5 to get them in line with core0. We don't have that feature yet but I will add it this week for you since you actually took the time to do some proper testing. When you see some very similar results from my E6400 this week, you will start to believe TjMax=85C is correct.

    If TjMax=100C like CoreTemp claims, your processor is idling at 14C to 15C above your room temperature during this test which I have not seen on any processor I've tested and definitely not on my very similar Q6600.

    Flip_Lx: Have you read the documentation yet or calibrated your idle temps? Try that first. My E2160 also reports below ambient temperatures at idle but that isn't a good reason to adjust TjMax like some programs do. Post some pics and give me something that I can see.

    Here's a good test of my E8400:
    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=573

    and a very thorough test of an E2160:
    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=423

    I'm not just making this stuff up. I did a lot of research before writing a single line of code and then have done far more testing after that to continue to back up my theories. I don't think any other programmer has put a fraction of the amount of time into this as I have. Anyone can guess randomly at TjMax and continue to assume that the DTS data is linear even though Intel and test after test confirms that it's not.

    Furiøùs: Thanks for the thumbs up. I enjoy all feedback but I seem to like the positive stuff more!
    Last edited by unclewebb; 05-04-2008 at 11:32 AM.

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