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    Phoronix Test Suite v0.50.0

    If you're looking for some repeatable Linux benchmarks, here they are.
    PTS: http://global.phoronix-test-suite.com/

    I've ran many [automatic] benchmarks, haven't been able to merge the total results files yet but they're all uploaded - you'll find them all under my username. Here they are.

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    Stock Volts on all hardware
    2000MHz NB, 2000MHz HT, 800MHz 4-4-4-12-20 RAM Unganged









































    Hows that?
    I'll try running more - the Kernel compile benchmark placed the highest load I've seen so far on Phenom.

    Quote Originally Posted by Suosaaski View Post
    The one that needs to be adjusted via P-states. so that would be CPU NB

    And when I sead "OC to be enabled all the time" I meant via BIOS settings, not by program like bar_edit, but you are correct, bar edit would be an easy way to check the nb multi.
    I know what you meant but you wanted to "check" if lower NB multi gives you any more stability and I mentioned an easy and quick method to do so with that. If it works you can then flash 1.13b which most of us use, and that will give you NB multi options back so you can use it in the BIOS. If you want such options, you will have to learn them though, they are not difficult, they just need time spent on like with anything - probably 30 minutes maximum for a learner.

    I'm not sure what NB VID is stock on your CPU, open AMD Power Monitor and it will mention it.
    Last edited by KTE; 05-02-2008 at 04:19 PM.

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    Hey KTE: MSI accepted my RMA of the board that died during the bios flash, I was a pretty loyal customer before, now those guys are my heros!! The replacement is on it's way back now.

    Is the 1.13 Beta still the best OC/Fully Functional bios (P-States etc)?

    Thanks.... Dave
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    Great news

    1.13b is still the best - but try 1.4 aswell.

    In Linux I've found a way to get Vcore; Screenlets, grab Sensors and AllCoreUsage screenlets.

    The first is not useful due to the CPU load it places apart from when running the voltage/temperature sensors it picks up. It registers the real Vcore from the I/O chip.
    The second shows loads across all cores conveniently, CPU usage is minimal.

    You can see them running top right in my ss below:


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    nice and cool looking desktop BTW...
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    http://global.phoronix-test-suite.co...51-10040-30430

    64bit vs. 32bit might make an big impact here, also i ran at 2.8GHz/2.25GHz.

    Try to run the universe suite kte. How do you submit under your username?

    EDIT: Saw you ran already, here's my result http://global.phoronix-test-suite.co...19379-691-1761
    Last edited by justapost; 05-02-2008 at 03:46 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonspd View Post
    nice and cool looking desktop BTW...
    Thanks

    The beauty of it is still hidden though... Compiz at its best, cube, fire, rain, water, skydom, fade, wobbling windows, pull back windows, exploding windows, transparent windows, burning windows -- you name it
    Most of the applets are hidden too, but whilst I really hated, yes hated, many Ubuntu versions before it for the massive problems - this one really is attached to me, so much so that I can't be bothered rebooting into Windows

    Jeeez SpecViewPerf9, Quake4, Enemy Territory Quake Wars and Doom3 are taking eons to download in that PTS for Linux
    Also they take a lot of space, beware - I might have to add GB to that partition.

    Keep an eye on the above graphs, more will be added, maybe 2.8G and 2.9G too and I'll try adding 4450e and Q6600 on there if I can...

    Quote Originally Posted by justapost View Post
    http://global.phoronix-test-suite.co...51-10040-30430

    64bit vs. 32bit might make an big impact here, also i ran at 2.8GHz/2.25GHz with 4GB ran at 4-4-3-5 timings.
    Hehe, yeah, with multi-threaded ones, 64b does make a good difference, but wow, see the scaling, large decrease in time there. Can you download and run v0.5 please, Michael says the results between different versions shouldn't be compared.

    Try to run the universe suite kte. How do you submit under your username?
    The above shots I posted are from the universe suite and others.
    Or are you saying, you're trying to run that?

    You have to first register at: http://global.phoronix-test-suite.com/
    Wait for email validation, click the validation link and then open console:

    cd to the phoronix-test-suite dir
    type:
    Code:
    ./phoronix-test-suite login
    Then you can type your login name and password - after that it will always ask you to upload anything you run automatically.
    When it says "launch PTS to view your results" answer no and then it'll ask you to upload results automatically.

    If you have an old result you want to submit, then first find that result.
    For me say 2700-2000 (a result I saved), they are saved automatically under:
    /home/kte/.phoronix-test-suite/test-results/2700-2000 [kte is my OS username there]

    Then open console, cd to phoronix-test-suite dir
    Now find where your results are saved - the name will be the filename you gave before the benchmark [special identification] and it will be an XML file in the same dir as the composite.xml file, i.e. in the example above:
    Code:
    /home/kte/.phoronix-test-suite/test-results/2700-2000/test-1.xml
    Then you have to type in console;
    Code:
    ./phoronix-test-suite upload /home/kte/.phoronix-test-suite/test-results/2700-2000/test-1.xml
    It'll be uploaded under your username then. Hope it helps

    Edit, seen your new results just now.. what speed and tRFC is your RAM in?
    I'm going to keep it at plain settings for now without any hardware tweaking, but I'll give your settings a try if you let me know them fully under 32b.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KTE View Post
    Thanks
    Hehe, yeah, with multi-threaded ones, 64b does make a good difference, but wow, see the scaling, large decrease in time there. Can you download and run v0.5 please, Michael says the results between different versions shouldn't be compared.

    The above shots I posted are from the universe suite and others.
    Or are you saying, you're trying to run that?

    You have to first register at: http://global.phoronix-test-suite.com/
    Wait for email validation, click the validation link and then open console:

    cd to the phoronix-test-suite dir
    type:
    Code:
    ./phoronix-test-suite login
    Then you can type your login name and password - after that it will always ask you to upload anything you run automatically.
    When it says "launch PTS to view your results" answer no and then it'll ask you to upload results automatically.

    If you have an old result you want to submit, then first find that result.
    For me say 2700-2000 (a result I saved), they are saved automatically under:
    /home/kte/.phoronix-test-suite/test-results/2700-2000 [kte is my OS username there]

    Then open console, cd to phoronix-test-suite dir
    Now find where your results are saved - the name will be the filename you gave before the benchmark [special identification] and it will be an XML file in the same dir as the composite.xml file, i.e. in the example above:
    Code:
    /home/kte/.phoronix-test-suite/test-results/2700-2000/test-1.xml
    Then you have to type in console;
    Code:
    ./phoronix-test-suite upload /home/kte/.phoronix-test-suite/test-results/2700-2000/test-1.xml
    It'll be uploaded under your username then. Hope it helps

    Edit, seen your new results just now.. what speed and tRFC is your RAM in?
    I'm going to keep it at plain settings for now without any hardware tweaking, but I'll give your settings a try if you let me know them fully under 32b.
    Thank you for the detailed info, saved me some time. I created three different accounts till now, activated all of em and none works.
    I get "PTS Global Account not found" instead.

    I ran the above test at 12,5*225 CPU, 10x225 NB and Mem at 600MHz 5-7-7-18-31 105ns timings.


    I rerun the test now with 220 ref HT and will run at 13,5x200, 10x200, 400 later.

    Here are the 0.5.0 results, the new version made the difference

    12,5x220 : http://global.phoronix-test-suite.co...8208-5683-8972
    630.79s

    13,5x200 http://global.phoronix-test-suite.co...906-17635-2096
    615,63s
    EDIT: universe http://global.phoronix-test-suite.co...586-17145-7140

    BTW: The linux kernel comes with an module for the msr registers.

    modprobe msr -> /dev/cpu/[0-3]/msr

    It's a character device which is rw. I wrote a small script in python to read the tlbcache info few month ago. Did not manage to write to this device but with a small c-program it should be no problem.

    Also nice http://ozlabs.org/~jk/code/bitfield/
    Last edited by justapost; 05-02-2008 at 08:11 AM.

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    Give me a few minutes- that last run of yours was very helpful, I'll now run the same tests and compare under 32b

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    Quote Originally Posted by justapost View Post
    Thank you for the detailed info, saved me some time. I created three different accounts till now, activated all of em and none works.
    I get "PTS Global Account not found" instead.
    When and where does it say this? In console?
    Have you manually logged in before running a benchmark?

    I just had an error, I ran your benchmark and uploaded it - it should show up alongside your last universe benchmark but it doesn't. I have the relevant files saved though. So 64b vs 32b [yours/mine]:





















    BTW: The linux kernel comes with an module for the msr registers.

    modprobe msr -> /dev/cpu/[0-3]/msr

    It's a character device which is rw. I wrote a small script in python to read the tlbcache info few month ago. Did not manage to write to this device but with a small c-program it should be no problem.

    Also nice http://ozlabs.org/~jk/code/bitfield/
    Nice, thanks for the info. I'll play around with it later.

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    Played alittle with bitfield and the msr module.

    Here is a code snippet reading the p-state-0 msr register

    Code:
    import struct
    
    f=open("/dev/cpu/0/msr","r")
    f.seek(0xc0010064);
    (msr0,)=struct.unpack('L',f.read(8));
    print "0x%x" %  (msr0)
    f.close();
    Here is the bitfield definition for the p-state register (not all voltages are in it)

    /etc/bitfield/bitfield.d/phenom.conf or /etc/bitfield.d/phenom.conf
    Code:
    [P-State]
    name: P-State Registers
    width: 64
    field: 58:63 CpuFid
    field: 55:57 CpuDid
    field: 48:54 CpuVid
    value: 0 1.5500V
    value: 1 1.5375V
    value: 2 1.5250V
    value: 3 1.5125V
    value: 4 1.5000V
    value: 5 1.4875V
    value: 6 1.4750V
    value: 7 1.4625V
    value: 8 1.4500V
    value: 9 1.4375V
    value: 10 1.4250V
    value: 11 1.4125V
    value: 12 1.4000V
    value: 13 1.3875V
    value: 14 1.3750V
    value: 15 1.3625V
    value: 16 1.3500V
    value: 17 1.3372V
    value: 18 1.3250V
    value: 19 1.3125V
    value: 20 1.3000V
    value: 22 1.275V
    value: 24 1.250V
    value: 26 1.225V
    value: 28 1.200V
    value: 30 1.175V
    value: 32 1.150V
    value: 34 1.125V
    value: 36 1.100V
    value: 38 1.075V
    value: 40 1.050V
    value: 42 1.025V
    value: 44 1.000V
    value: 46 0.975V
    value: 48 0.950V
    value: 50 0.925V
    value: 52 0.900V
    value: 54 0.875V
    value: 56 0.850V
    value: 58 0.825V
    value: 60 0.800V
    value: 62 0.775V
    value: 64 0.750V
    value: 66 0.725V
    value: 68 0.700V
    value: 70 0.675V
    value: 72 0.650V
    value: 74 0.625V
    value: 76 0.600V
    value: 78 0.575V
    value: 80 0.550V
    value: 82 0.525V
    field: 42:47 SBZ
    field: 41 NbDid
    field: 39:40 SBZ
    field: 32:38 NbVid
    value: 0 1.5500V
    value: 1 1.5375V
    value: 2 1.5250V
    value: 3 1.5125V
    value: 4 1.5000V
    value: 5 1.4875V
    value: 6 1.4750V
    value: 7 1.4625V
    value: 8 1.4500V
    value: 9 1.4375V
    value: 10 1.4250V
    value: 11 1.4125V
    value: 12 1.4000V
    value: 13 1.3875V
    value: 14 1.3750V
    value: 15 1.3625V
    value: 16 1.3500V
    value: 17 1.3372V
    value: 18 1.3250V
    value: 19 1.3125V
    value: 20 1.3000V
    value: 22 1.275V
    value: 24 1.250V
    value: 26 1.225V
    value: 28 1.200V
    value: 30 1.175V
    value: 32 1.150V
    value: 34 1.125V
    value: 36 1.100V
    value: 38 1.075V
    value: 40 1.050V
    value: 42 1.025V
    value: 44 1.000V
    value: 46 0.975V
    value: 48 0.950V
    value: 50 0.925V
    value: 52 0.900V
    value: 54 0.875V
    value: 56 0.850V
    value: 58 0.825V
    value: 60 0.800V
    value: 62 0.775V
    value: 64 0.750V
    value: 66 0.725V
    value: 68 0.700V
    value: 70 0.675V
    value: 72 0.650V
    value: 74 0.625V
    value: 76 0.600V
    value: 78 0.575V
    value: 80 0.550V
    value: 82 0.525V
    field: 24:31 IddValue
    field: 22:23 IddDiv
    value: 0 1A
    value: 1 10A
    value: 2 100A
    field: 1:21 SBZ
    field: 0 PStateEn
    value: 0 Invalid
    value: 1 Valid
    If you call bitfield with the result of the python script like this

    Code:
    bitfield P-State 0x800001ee2800280b
    It shows
    Code:
    decoding as P-State Registers
    0x800001ee2800280b [9223374159239718923]
      CpuFid: 0xb
      CpuDid: 0x0
      CpuVid: 0x14 [1.3000V]
         SBZ: 0x0
       NbDid: 0x0
         SBZ: 0x0
       NbVid: 0x14 [1.3000V]
    IddValue: 0xee
      IddDiv: 0x1 [10A]
         SBZ: 0x0
    PStateEn: 0x1 [Valid]
    Gotta figure out now how to access the pci-registers. Should be nice to read out the memory timings.

    EDIT
    Code:
    lspic -s 00:18.2 -xxx
    This gives a dump of the pci registers.

    Bitfield stuff for the DRAM timings high registers
    Code:
    [DRAM-THR]
    name: DRAM Timings high register
    width: 32
    field: 28:31 TrwtWB read to write turnaround for opportunistic write bursting
    value: 0 3 clocks
    value: 1 4 clocks
    value: 2 5 clocks
    value: 3 6 clocks
    value: 4 7 clocks
    value: 5 8 clocks
    value: 6 9 clocks
    value: 7 10 clocks
    field: 24:27 TrwtTO read to write turnaround for data, DQS convention
    value: 0 Reserved
    value: 1 3 clocks
    value: 2 4 clocks
    value: 3 5 clocks
    value: 4 6 clocks
    value: 5 7 clocks
    value: 6 8 clocks
    value: 7 9 clocks
    field: 22:23 Twtr internal DRAM write to read command delay
    value: 1 1 clocks
    value: 2 2 clocks
    value: 3 3 clocks
    field: 20:21 Twrrd write to read DIMM terminantion turnaround
    value: 0 1 clocks
    value: 1 2 clocks
    value: 2 3 clocks
    value: 3 4 clocks
    field: 18:19 Twrwr write to write timing
    value: 0 1 clocks
    value: 1 2 clocks
    value: 2 3 clocks
    value: 3 4 clocks
    field: 16:17 Trdrd read to read timing
    value: 0 2 clocks
    value: 1 3 clocks
    value: 2 4 clocks
    value: 3 5 clocks
    field: 14:15 Tref refresh rate
    value: 0 Undefined behaviour
    value: 1 Reserved
    value: 2 Every 7.8ms
    value: 3 Every 3.9ms
    field: 13 DisAutoRefresh disable automatic refresh
    value: 0 Automatic refresh is enabled
    value: 1 Automatic refresh is disabled
    field: 12 Reserved
    field: 9:11 Trfc0
    value: 0 75ns
    value: 1 105ns
    value: 2 127.5ns
    value: 3 195ns
    value: 4 327.5ns
    field: 6:8 Trfc1
    value: 0 75ns
    value: 1 105ns
    value: 2 127.5ns
    value: 3 195ns
    value: 4 327.5ns
    field: 3:5 Trfc2
    value: 0 75ns
    value: 1 105ns
    value: 2 127.5ns
    value: 3 195ns
    value: 4 327.5ns
    field: 0:2 Trfc3
    value: 0 75ns
    value: 1 105ns
    value: 2 127.5ns
    value: 3 195ns
    value: 4 327.5ns
    Bitfield stuff for the DRAM timings high registers
    Code:
    [DRAM-TLR]
    name: DRAM Timing Low Register
    width: 32
    field: 28:31 Tcl CAS latency
    value: 2 3 clocks
    value: 3 4 clocks
    value: 4 5 clocks
    value: 5 6 clocks
    field: 25:27 Trcd RAS to CAS delay
    value: 0 3 clocks
    value: 1 4 clocks
    value: 2 5 clocks
    value: 3 6 clocks
    field: 22:24 Trp row precharge time
    value: 0 3 clocks
    value: 1 3 clocks
    value: 2 4 clocks
    value: 3 4 clocks
    value: 4 5 clocks
    value: 5 5 clocks
    value: 6 6 clocks
    value: 7 6 clocks
    field: 20:21 Trtp read to precharge time
    value: 0 2-4 clocks
    value: 1 3-5 clocks
    field: 16:19 Tras: row active strobe (DDR2/DDR2-1066)
    value: 0 NA/15 clocks
    value: 1 NA/16 clocks
    value: 2 5/17 clocks
    value: 3 6/18 clocks
    value: 4 7/19 clocks
    value: 5 8/20 clocks
    value: 6 9/21 clocks
    value: 7 10/22 clocks
    value: 8 11/23 clocks
    value: 9 12/24 clocks
    value: 10 13/25 clocks
    value: 11 14/26 clocks
    value: 12 15/27 clocks
    value: 13 16/28 clocks
    value: 14 17/29 clocks
    value: 15 18/30 clocks
    field: 12:15 Trc row cycle time
    value: 0 11 clocks
    value: 1 12 clocks
    value: 2 13 clocks
    value: 3 14 clocks
    value: 4 15 clocks
    value: 5 16 clocks
    value: 6 17 clocks
    value: 7 18 clocks
    value: 8 19 clocks
    value: 9 20 clocks
    value: 10 21 clocks
    value: 11 22 clocks
    value: 12 23 clocks
    value: 13 24 clocks
    value: 14 25 clocks
    value: 15 26 clocks
    value: 16 27 clocks
    value: 17 28 clocks
    value: 18 29 clocks
    value: 19 30 clocks
    value: 20 31 clocks
    value: 21 32 clocks
    value: 22 33 clocks
    value: 23 34 clocks
    value: 24 35 clocks
    value: 25 36 clocks
    value: 26 37 clocks
    value: 27 38 clocks
    value: 28 39 clocks
    value: 29 40 clocks
    value: 30 41 clocks
    value: 31 42 clocks
    field: 10:11 Twr write recovery time
    value: 0 3 clocks
    value: 1 4 clocks
    value: 2 5 clocks
    value: 3 6 clocks
    field: 8:9 Trrd row to row delay (DDR2/DDR2-1066)
    value: 0 2/4 clocks
    value: 1 3/5 clocks
    value: 2 4/6 clocks
    value: 3 5/7 clocks
    Code snippet to read the pci registers (here F2x8c DRAM timings high register)
    Code:
    import struct
    
    f=open("/proc/bus/pci/00/18.2","r")
    f.seek(0x8c);
    (reg,)=struct.unpack('I',f.read(4));
    print "0x%x" %  (reg)
    f.close();
    Output for DRAM High
    Code:
    decoding as DRAM Timings high register
    0x00020345 [131909]
    TrwtWB read to write turnaround for opportunistic write bursting: 0x5 [8 clocks]
            TrwtTO read to write turnaround for data, DQS convention: 0x4 [6 clocks]
                      Twtr internal DRAM write to read command delay: 0x3 [3 clocks]
                    Twrrd write to read DIMM terminantion turnaround: 0x0 [1 clocks]
                                         Twrwr write to write timing: 0x0 [1 clocks]
                                           Trdrd read to read timing: 0x0 [2 clocks]
                                                   Tref refresh rate: 0x2 [Every 7.8ms]
                            DisAutoRefresh disable automatic refresh: 0x0 [Automatic refresh is enabled]
                                                            Reserved: 0x0
                                                               Trfc0: 0x0 [75ns]
                                                               Trfc1: 0x0 [75ns]
                                                               Trfc2: 0x0 [75ns]
                                                               Trfc3: 0x0 [75ns]
    Output for DRAM Low
    Code:
    decoding as DRAM Timing Low Register
    0xae599113 [2925105427]
                             Tcl CAS latency: 0x3 [4 clocks]
                       Trcd RAS to CAS delay: 0x1 [4 clocks]
                      Trp row precharge time: 0x2 [4 clocks]
                 Trtp read to precharge time: 0x0 [2-4 clocks]
    Tras: row active strobe (DDR2/DDR2-1066): 0x9 [12/24 clocks]
                          Trc row cycle time: 0x9 [20 clocks]
                     Twr write recovery time: 0x1 [4 clocks]
      Trrd row to row delay (DDR2/DDR2-1066): 0x1 [3/5 clocks]
    Now i'm fixed. I'll try to modify the bitfield code now so the program can be used to read MSR and PCI registers directly.
    Last edited by justapost; 05-02-2008 at 11:34 AM.

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    NoߺߺkeyboardߺsorryߺMSIߺboardߺdeadߺYESߺTOTALLYߺDEAD ߲ߡߺߺߡDiedߺbyߺfullߺloadߺᴈᴏᴏᴏᴍᴢߺoneߺpointߺfourߺvolts ߺusingߺAbitߺboardߺnow http://global.phoronix-test-suite.co...352-6784-27732 phenomߺworkingߺfineߺthough

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    wtf

    bring it back to life LOL

    o well send a rma like dave had to do is it really dead?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KTE View Post
    NoߺߺkeyboardߺsorryߺMSIߺboardߺdeadߺYESߺTOTALLYߺDEAD ߲ߡߺߺߡDiedߺbyߺfullߺloadߺᴈᴏᴏᴏᴍᴢߺoneߺpointߺfourߺvolts ߺusingߺAbitߺboardߺnow http://global.phoronix-test-suite.co...352-6784-27732 phenomߺworkingߺfineߺthough
    Non working 9850BE here. sensors-detect -> C1
    9600BE working fine. Not that i think this is funny, the only thing beside stock was the cpu-multi at 13,5.
    Last edited by justapost; 05-02-2008 at 12:42 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonspd View Post
    wtf

    bring it back to life LOL

    o well send a rma like dave had to do is it really dead?
    Man, under load I went away and came back seeing a flash from the board
    Tested 3 PSUs, 3 RAM sticks and 2 CPUs, all worked in other two boards but did not work in MSI.
    Then checked it all out alone - it powers on but then switches off with a flash as if there's a short circuit somewhere.. there isn't anywhere but on the board, near a capacitor. Looks like on of the circuitry wires has broken walls. definitely a dead board.
    I can't RMA, skanky MSI are asking me to pay $60 for the RMA, testing and replacement where by UK statutory law they have to provide me 12 months warranty at no cost
    They claim its their EU repair center that imposes these charges by default.

    The above SuperPi 1M benchmark was at 3000MHz CPU, 2400MHz NB, 800MHz RAM 4-4-4-8-15 Unganged.
    The rest of the benchmarks I ran, the Universe suite, are below [that server is "eating" all our uploaded results]:





















    I am currently on Abit AX78 at 2.7GHz stock volts although only installed one DIMM, first BIOS: http://global.phoronix-test-suite.co...64-32241-32236

    The PWM has no problem so far, they are actually running very cool compared to what my MSI was running.

    Quote Originally Posted by justapost View Post
    Non working 9850BE here. sensors-detect -> C1
    9600BE working fine. Not that i think this is funny, the only thing beside stock was the cpu-multi at 13,5.
    Thank you for all the info Achim
    But I have a lot of work to do now before I can get to play about with that.

    I still have C1 errors on all boards, they only go away if I run Corsair 800 RAM, no 1066 or 1000 RAM will boot, all of them give C1 for a while. Try and get hold of some 800 rated compatible RAM

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    Quote Originally Posted by KTE View Post
    Thank you for all the info Achim
    But I have a lot of work to do now before I can get to play about with that.
    NP, I had this on my todo list for a while and needed to take a break from typo3 coding. That stuff works fine and only reads registers thru kernel modules.
    Quote Originally Posted by KTE View Post
    I still have C1 errors on all boards, they only go away if I run Corsair 800 RAM, no 1066 or 1000 RAM will boot, all of them give C1 for a while. Try and get hold of some 800 rated compatible RAM
    I was aware for your issue and tried a stick of G.Skill 6400 ram with no luck. Also tried the cpu in the M3A without success, definately a dead chip here.
    Hope your K9A2 can be brought back somehow.

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    Damn.. so totally dead?
    When you get the C1, does it startup and then get stuck?

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    Update.. stock volts, benched, no issues of freezing so far on the Abit AX78: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=232
    So far it's tagging the same route as the MSI which froze after 18 hours.

    X264 bench, Q6600 and 9850: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...9&postcount=78

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    then you would say that your Abit is the better board? Include the first Bios an NB-Multi?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KTE View Post
    Damn.. so totally dead?
    When you get the C1, does it startup and then get stuck?
    It behaves exactly like my non working 9500. I power on the board, a led between the dimm sockest starts to glow and the status leds jump to C1.
    The M3A ran the 9850BE fine at stock before and does not post now. I'm sure i have no corrupted bios problems there.

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    Hold on I need to test more..

    AX78 pulls less power than the MSI board though, at the same settings.

    -Managed to test and yup, this board also showed idle issues which means its Phenom itself for sure. 210x13.5 stock all volts failed after around 8 hours, although passed all benching fine.
    -Ahhhh just had the idle freeze issue again, but I was at fairly low volts -> 1.34v 2.9GHz. Could be voltage related yet, although it was similar - never failed benching, failed during Firefox, after 1hr.
    -Now at 210x13, stock volts on all - working fine... so far.

    Edit: Yeah Achim, sorry bud but it definitely sounds like a dead chip. How though and why?
    Last edited by KTE; 05-03-2008 at 08:08 AM.

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    KTE, have you tried running individual cores at higher multis to see if the freezing can be associated to a single core? Unfortunately i'm out of freezers here atm but that whould have been the next thing i planed to investigate further.

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    ^I did with the MSI board Achim, yes. I tried a lot of things, its hard to make sense of it all - tried one core, two cores, three cores underclocked and it made no difference.
    I haven't tried with the Abit yet, but it's no point. Good thing, Abit board has 8-pin 12V

    This time around I'll keep all cores to 100% stable MHz [i.e. 2.5GHz ] but one high. If one works for around 20 hours then I'll turn another one up and check for 24 hours - that way I might find a pattern.

    When it freezes, it happens out of the blue and it throws CPU load high, even though you may not be doing anything [check power meter or heat].

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    nothing major but 2.88 was 36 hr prime stable but wasn't idle stable however I did test at 2.84 and it was idle stable and so I'm using 12x235 with 1.34 vcore
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    My efforts are still stuck at: 2.8/2.8/2.7/2.8G stock volts for over 11 hours now..

    Looks like its time to move up, not had the freeze I usually get quick and tried everything.

    1.34v is only 0.04v above stock Jon...

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    Quote Originally Posted by KTE View Post
    My efforts are still stuck at: 2.8/2.8/2.7/2.8G stock volts for over 11 hours now..

    Looks like its time to move up, not had the freeze I usually get quick and tried everything.

    1.34v is only 0.04v above stock Jon...
    I was trying to stay around stock for alittle while


    I did boot up at 3.0ghz for fun (1.38-9v I think) but thats all it was for fun seeing as it froze after it loaded...
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