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    do i just imagine this or does every new videocard release is accompanied by more and more fakes?

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    This reminds of when R600 was about to be released and they made the same thing, 21k points on 3Dmarks06 is just too high is like 3 RV670 doing tri-Crossfire to get those results. It is hard to think a card that will cost $300 to $400 good as this. If this is true, Nvidia is out of business. lol 99,9% is fake.

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    Looking at the GT200's rumour from the other subject, the score is not impossible . Sources claimed that GT200 will have a GX2 variant .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trox View Post
    http://www.guru3d.com/news/ati-radeo...hmark-results/

    I think is fake, but guru3d post them so...

    Read the words that Guru also posted.

    We have absolutely no idea how valid these results are...... Let me state that anyone can make this stuff up and re-produce some nice charts.
    At this point I dont really care if they are real or fake. But they are more likely fake, and I will prefer to wait untill I see a proper review.

    Oh, and its may now, so where are they? o.O

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    Quote Originally Posted by bhavv View Post
    Read the words that Guru also posted.



    At this point I dont really care if they are real or fake. But they are more likely fake, and I will prefer to wait untill I see a proper review.

    Oh, and its may now, so where are they? o.O
    Quite simple. Its early may, sources said LATE may.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hornet331 View Post
    do i just imagine this or does every new videocard release is accompanied by more and more fakes?
    That's an easy one also. If you remember the r600 was supposed to be a monsterous card along with k10 spanking conroe. Because of these rumors (especially amd's up to 40% increase over conroe claim) and the secracy ever since amd's acquisition of ati, people felt the need to make estimates (and fakes) to fill up the hype. That, and people are greedy for their own site traffic thus would post up fake results to get more views.

    So in short, because there won't be any legit results until the big price wars end, people will continue adding fakes for some of the various reasons I named above.




    I'm not trying to flame anyone, but gosh don't people ever pay attention? You'd think that people would have at least read the thread but the same fakes have been posted at least 3 times in some cases and the same questions brought up over and over again.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hans de Vries View Post

    JF-AMD posting: IPC increases!!!!!!! How many times did I tell you!!!

    terrace215 post: IPC decreases, The more I post the more it decreases.
    terrace215 post: IPC decreases, The more I post the more it decreases.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Origin_Unknown View Post
    thanks for the constructive arguement in favour of nvidia in this ati thread.
    I like both companys dont get me wrong I game alot and ati drivers arent very good for DX10 games and older titles that I play.

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    You'd think that people would have at least read the thread but the same fakes have been posted at least 3 times in some cases and the same questions brought up over and over again.


    still waiting for a whiff of something real... a 20 page thread with nothing real yet lol - what's to read?
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    yeh come on someone has some real info somewhere





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    Quote Originally Posted by adamsleath View Post


    still waiting for a whiff of something real... a 20 page thread with nothing real yet lol - what's to read?
    its not about nothing real being released, its that people don't read the thread
    Quote Originally Posted by Hans de Vries View Post

    JF-AMD posting: IPC increases!!!!!!! How many times did I tell you!!!

    terrace215 post: IPC decreases, The more I post the more it decreases.
    terrace215 post: IPC decreases, The more I post the more it decreases.
    terrace215 post: IPC decreases, The more I post the more it decreases.
    .....}
    until (interrupt by Movieman)


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    Quote Originally Posted by malik22 View Post
    I like both companys dont get me wrong I game alot and ati drivers arent very good for DX10 games and older titles that I play.
    My ATI drivers are fine for all the DX10 games and old games that I play. Stop spreading BS about ATI drivers thanks. They are just as good as, if not better then Nvidias drivers.

    And before some Nvidiot quotes me again and types 'lol nub, 9800 GX2 pwns 3870 X2'

    I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE DRIVERS, NOT PERFORMANCE.

    Sorry, Nvidiots like to troll a lot nowadays and feel all superior with yet another model of the recycled and reused 8800 chip.

    for you all that have Nvidia cards and notice higher scores in benchamarks You win a Well done, and enjoy your Nvidia card with some

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metroid View Post
    This reminds of when R600 was about to be released and they made the same thing, 21k points on 3Dmarks06 is just too high is like 3 RV670 doing tri-Crossfire to get those results. It is hard to think a card that will cost $300 to $400 good as this. If this is true, Nvidia is out of business. lol 99,9% is fake.

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    kekek yeah or the phenom with 3870x2 crossfired hitting 30k on 3dm06..

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    Quote Originally Posted by cstkl1 View Post
    kekek yeah or the phenom with 3870x2 crossfired hitting 30k on 3dm06..

    sishh
    the best score in 3Dmark06 was done with 3870x2 CF

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    Quote Originally Posted by madcho View Post
    the best score in 3Dmark06 was done with 3870x2 CF
    no dude i meant this scores.. are a sick joke

    remember that stupid benchmark that inquirer etc all talked about before the phenom was launched
    that with 387x2 crossfired it scored 30k on 3dmark06..

    similar stories spinning around with hd4870.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cstkl1 View Post
    kekek yeah or the phenom with 3870x2 crossfired hitting 30k on 3dm06..

    sishh
    Correction as this is going too far off, R600 = HD 2900 XT.

    R600

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    The reference motherboard containing RD790 chipset packed two HD 2900XT cards, and the memory installed was Corsair's Dominator PC2-9136C5D, or the same ones we have been using ever since they came out.
    AMD's 3GHz K10 to break 30,000 3DMark06

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    Quote Originally Posted by bhavv View Post
    My ATI drivers are fine for all the DX10 games and old games that I play. Stop spreading BS about ATI drivers thanks. They are just as good as, if not better then Nvidias drivers.
    In Vista nvidia's drivers caused bsods quite often. Never had a bsod with the ati drivers (had an 8800GT and now a 3850), but I have a problem almost as annoying. In Virtual Pool 3 it has a wierd bug which causes the surface of the table to be transparent in most (but not all) angles. It's annoying as I play VP3 quite often, but so far it's the only bug of this sort I've found. And to think that the 9800Pro with the drivers that were out 2-3 years ago I didn't have this problem...
    But then again maybe it's just the Vista version of the drivers that have this problem. Haven't tryed on XP yet.


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    Star Wars Jedi Academy didn't work with Cats 8.2 and before with 3800 cards, but HD2x00 was fine. Weird problem huh? Just submit a ticket to them, when I did it in less than a week they told me the issue was fixed in the 8.3 and voila, with 8.3 and 8.4 JKA is working perfectly.

    If you guys have an issue with the drivers, report it to them, I'm sure if it's easily fixable they'll do it like they did with mine They will never fix the Crossfire thing though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Metroid View Post
    Correction as this is going too far off, R600 = HD 2900 XT.

    R600



    AMD's 3GHz K10 to break 30,000 3DMark06

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    But wasn't that one proven to be a fake?
    Quote Originally Posted by Movieman
    With the two approaches to "how" to design a processor WE are the lucky ones as we get to choose what is important to us as individuals.
    For that we should thank BOTH (AMD and Intel) companies!


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    I am sure JF is relaxed and smiling these days with there intended launch schedule. SNB Xeon servers on the other hand....
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    there yo go bringing intel into a amd thread again lol, if that was someone droping a dig at amd you would be crying like a girl.
    qft!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donnie27 View Post
    But wasn't that one proven to be a fake?
    rofl maybe he actually thinks it's real
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donnie27 View Post
    But wasn't that one proven to be a fake?
    It was not a fake because he never showed us anything concrete to back up his claims, it was not proven to be a fake because he never gave us anything to prove that he was wrong. He just made it up and published without any real material to show, like many of his articles anyway. I call this lies and that is all.

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    Theinquirer ...

    some times very good ... some times so bad ...

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    when have they ever been very good? I think you're thinking of fudzilla, fuad has been a lot more consistant than Charlie and is generally correct (or at least closer than charlie)
    Quote Originally Posted by Hans de Vries View Post

    JF-AMD posting: IPC increases!!!!!!! How many times did I tell you!!!

    terrace215 post: IPC decreases, The more I post the more it decreases.
    terrace215 post: IPC decreases, The more I post the more it decreases.
    terrace215 post: IPC decreases, The more I post the more it decreases.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AliG View Post
    when have they ever been very good?
    Indeed. The Inquirer does tend to need to be taken with...



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    hey that be the picture I posted up last time
    Quote Originally Posted by Hans de Vries View Post

    JF-AMD posting: IPC increases!!!!!!! How many times did I tell you!!!

    terrace215 post: IPC decreases, The more I post the more it decreases.
    terrace215 post: IPC decreases, The more I post the more it decreases.
    terrace215 post: IPC decreases, The more I post the more it decreases.
    .....}
    until (interrupt by Movieman)


    Regards, Hans

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    That's the picture that is guaranteed to be posted by someone in every single thread that mentions theINQ or Fudzilla.

    Quote Originally Posted by bhavv View Post
    Sorry, Nvidiots like to troll a lot nowadays and feel all superior with yet another model of the recycled and reused 8800 chip.
    That attitude won't get you far on this forum I reckon.
    for you all that have Nvidia cards and notice higher scores in benchamarks You win a Well done, and enjoy your Nvidia card with some
    Excuse me but doesn't 8800/9800 series trounce Radeons in just about every game, whereas Radeons score comparably higher results in benchies?
    You were not supposed to see this.

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    not quite true, radeons score better in every 3dmarkxx, but not vantage, they get spanked in vantage, most likely that is in no small part due to nvidia (especially since vantage was supposed to offer dx10.1).

    But it is also true that so far with the exception of the 9600gt (which is quite an impressive mid range and proves optimization is more important than raw power), so far every nvidia chip since g80's launch has been simply either a g80 derivitive (although g86 was tweaked a bit) or the exact same chip **g98 went from 8xxx series to 9xxx series with absolutely no change**. As for the 9800gx2, that's about to be EOL anyways so I wouldn't quite count that, and even if you do its just sli g92 chips, so nothing really new anyways.

    So I reckon you were both a bit right and wrong
    Quote Originally Posted by Hans de Vries View Post

    JF-AMD posting: IPC increases!!!!!!! How many times did I tell you!!!

    terrace215 post: IPC decreases, The more I post the more it decreases.
    terrace215 post: IPC decreases, The more I post the more it decreases.
    terrace215 post: IPC decreases, The more I post the more it decreases.
    .....}
    until (interrupt by Movieman)


    Regards, Hans

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