Xtreme Triple PA120.3 Cooler

[biftek.]

Ouch that sucks to hear about the pumps...

You should build a kind of gutter over the PSU's so if anything leaks in the future it'll run away from the psu's, avoiding disaster.

[CyberDruid]

Well there are plenty of options. I kind of want to test out these Alphacools. Waiting to hear back from PPC about RMA. If they say no then I have to decide whether I want to buy two more or just replumb it for the Iwaki RD30s.

[phelan1777]

Okay, got it right this time............I was bored...........









If I had time I could do the second half of the name, but I have to get ready for the shore house of three days.

[Martinm210]

The project looks awesome, sorry to hear about the pumps though. The one I tested didn't seem to have any leaking problems although I did notice the thinner plastic and metal shaft instead of ceramic.

I also question how durable the pumps are, but noone seemed to have any long term experience with them to indicate a problem.

[eva2000]

woah... extreme!

i dare you to run the system passively

[CyberDruid]

Thanks alot guys...takes the agony of my feet off my mind

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfVbTKOWFe8

The fans are about silent at lowest voltage. But I was thinking the same thing: if I park it over the AC vent then I won't even need fans...

[Movieman]

When I want to read a great book I look for Tom Clancy.
When I want to see well built extreme systems I look for your threads.
You combine talent and imagination and thats rare.
Very nice work..

[InfamousChu]

phelan now thats a sig to have!

[cegras]

Those buzz a bit more than I thought they would. My long "F" hardly buzzes that much o_o

And also .. your voice sounds a bit like Anton Chigurh, from that movie. It freaked me out a bit, but as always, I mean no harm by stating that.

[tiro_uspsss]

Okay, got it right this time............I was very bored...........









If I had time I could do the second half of the name, but I have to get ready for the shore house of three days.

corrected!

[zlojack]

That build is definitely legendary.

[Loser777]

Awesome. No holds barred W/C.

[CyberDruid]

Now that I have my doubts about these pumps...I am considering using a pair of IwakiRD30 and running the rads in series for a single loop.

Here's a question: which would work best

Pump>rad>rad>rad>pump

or

Pump>3-way splitter>rads>3-way splitter>pump

Just kicking that around. Of course I could go totally nuts and just get a third Iwaki...but that seems like too much...I am getting excellent flow with the single pump cooler I have now so I am guessing a pair of Iwaki would be more than enough.

[WhiteFireDragon]

if you do Pump>rad>rad>rad>pump, the first rad would have the most pressure and also remove more heat than the other two. if you do it the other way, all 3 will have same water pressures and have the same amount of heat load. but i don't even know whats more effective

[eXa]

Im not so shure about that... Dont think that pressure affects radiator performance that much. Flow does and that will stay the same independent of loop order.

[biftek.]

Why not do 3 loops like you were going to do but have them share common pumps?

Pump 1>Pump 2>3 way splitter>Rad 01>System 01>3way splitter>Pump1
----------------------------->Rad 02>System 02>--------------------
----------------------------->Rad 03>System 03>--------------------

Dunno how those pumps do in series though...
But that way each "system" (or what ever) still has it's own dedicated rad.
:/

[RADCOM]

You have the best job in the world m8. You should have a Tv program "Pimp my Rig" on Geek Tv

[phelan1777]

speaking from exp of using a single RD30 with a Storm G5, in the past and dual MCW60s


the pump is strong and running two in a loop should be interesting to see temps so do post temps/results when you are up and running.

[CyberDruid]

Thanks for the feedback guys. I reworked the rig so the rads are daisy chained. Right now I have a single IwakiRD30 installed and after I get my act together here (HUNGER) I will decomission the Monolith Xtreme Cooler so I can rob it of parts....

Like a Dumbass I managed to short out my 24V PSU and it's a goner...but luckily I have another handy.

So I was thinking of doing this:

EK res> EK Res> 1st Iwaki>Rad>Rad>2nd Iwaki>rad>3-way metering manifold

My reasoning for dual reservoirs is to make sure the Iwaki always starts with a full charge...the EK reservoirs are pretty low volume. Plus it gives me more options.





















I decoupled the pump as best I could and the lexan that it is mounted to is also decoupled somewhat with foam tape. I won't know till I get the other PSU installed.

I put in a drain line this time and now I guess it's time to power down and tear the old cooler apart to cannabalize it.

[Martinm210]

I like the RD-30 setup better, very nice.

Only thing I would watch for is the length and size of the inlet tup between the pump inlet and the reservoir. I had about a foot worth of 7/16" ID tubing on mine and still noticed a little cavitation during testing. The Iwaki really wants a very short line as well as a larger line if possible. Maybe use some 1/2" in there? Or maybe turn the pump a little and draw right from the closest res?

As long as you don't hear any cavitation (small air bubbles collapsing in the pump) sound, it's all good..

[warmage]

looks good , but why not put the PSU under the rads ?

and i think putting the res closer using male to male connector would be better :P , even with 3 res u can make delta shape, plus less tubing

cant you stretch the tubing over the broken pump outlet ? with boiling water help ? (not sure what tubing/size your using)

[WhiteFireDragon]

a huge box like this dedicated to cooling is just crazy. it reminds me of see a setup of this guy running tubes into his pool and having it pumped all the way to his computer lol. it was both the res and radiator...

[MomijiTMO]

You sir are a geek .. . . .. .. . that happens to KICK BUTT XD.

This project looks great and I hope you don't run into anymore bad luck. Keep up the great work.

[CyberDruid]

Well another long night produce some interesting results.

I hear ya about cavitation...the low pressure zone is intense.

I took the Monolith apart. As pointed out above putting the PSUs under the plumbing is asking for trouble. The leaks I had with the Alphacools did inded bet them wet. I was able to restore the 12V but like a dumbass I fired the 24V thinking I had it dry when in fact it was not.

No biggy as I have a couple of them laying around.

The reason I did not mount the PSUs in front of the rads was to avoid blocking access to the floor intake (AC vent )

Anyhoo. I mounted a SECOND Iwaki in the loop and it's pretty insane. With the PSU trimmed all the way up it's NIAGRA Class V rapids material

The dual reservoir is producing some fun stuff to look at...but likely not ideal for the cooling loop. I made some vids to show the effect...

Basically the low pressure is so strong it draw water through the balance tube...this makes for a WATERFALL...lol but also a ton of aeration. With both pumps on it sounds like a Dishwashing machine churning away...as the air is passed through the rad chambers...not exactly what I had in mind

I may have to Nix the the balance tube despite how cool it looks...

I'll post up some pics after another cuppa joe kicks in.

[CyberDruid]

Well I worked until about 2AM and got the unit completed


Here I have the second Iwaki mounted


I used a balance tube but it might have to go.


loop goes like this res1>res2>pump1>rad1>rad2>pump2>rad3>out to PC>back to res1


I used two reservoirs llinked together to try and minimize cavitation..but the balance tube is introducing a ton of air...as the vids will show.


Pumps each have their own switch so I can try out some stuff.


Should probably make a shield for the PSUs in case of leaks..








The fans were actually giving me a chill last night















Too much fun