Gigabyte MA790FX DQ6

[Aussie FX]

Stock voltage isn't 1.1875.

Might have a good chip there.

[AlabamaCajun]

Stock voltage isn't 1.1875.

Might have a good chip there.

That is interesting, I noticed my non oced 9500 runs at 1.20V, it's rates 1.20V-1.25V.

What I would like to know is why we can't drop the VCore in BIOS?

Edit; I just observed the same issue. I'm reading 1.225 in AOD and CoreTemp but 1.3 In CPUZ, HWMonitor.

[Aussie FX]

That is interesting, I noticed my non oced 9500 runs at 1.20V, it's rates 1.20V-1.25V.

What I would like to know is why we can't drop the VCore in BIOS?

Edit; I just observed the same issue. I'm reading 1.225 in AOD and CoreTemp but 1.3 In CPUZ, HWMonitor.

I set my VID to 1.25v with the 9500.
I have a DQ6 and I can drop the voltage. Although I can't on my 780G, so it might be reserved for the top board, it's the only reason I can think of.

Cpuz has always been the most accurate in my experience.

Both my Gigabyte boards tend to overvolt slightly, which is a good thing.

[By-Tor]

Anyone here with a DQ6 or DS5 using a 9850 BE hitting 3 ghz?

[Daveburt714]

Wiak: I was actually talking about Vimc not Vcore..

Alabama Cajun: I agree with you, it would be nice to be able to set lower v's on the core, especially if you were going for a low power settup. Auto doesn't really set it to 1.25 though it's closer to 1.2, and from my experience anything under 1.2 is only good if you plan to underclock...

Aussie: I didn't feel too bad yesterday (I'm a Beer Pro ) Guess thats what happens when I go out and don't have to drive!

I finally got 1066 memory to work! Guess I was pushing a little too much juice through it, the Reapers are rated at 2.0-2.3, so I started out at 2.1 thinking this would be a reasonable place to start.... Long story short, I got it to run at 1.9v's.

For some reason it still fails 4xPrime blend after a few hours (used to fail in minutes!), but I haven't had any crashes with daily use, gaming, encoding, surfing etc... May not be 100% stable, but this is good thing
At least until we get a new bios update...

By-Tor: I had a 9850, it wouldn't even run stable at stock speeds, so I RMA'd it. Just my luck to get a dud! I should have a replacement by next weekend so I'll keep ya posted.

Also RMA'd my K9A2 board. I'm a pretty gentle overclocker, it died during a bios flash, so we'll see if they replace it or not (they should!)...

I'll test the 9850 on both and post results.

[Eson]

Anyone having problems with 4GB memory with the Gigabyte MA790FX-DQ6?
I got these crappy ballistix and they never worked right. I RMA them but they said everything was OK and i was told to update my bios. So i did and it worked good, i think, until i put the other 2gb in. Memtest fails after 1min.

So, does Gigabyte MA790FX-DQ6 have issues with 4gb ram?

[By-Tor]

Daveburt714,

So far I have only been able to get 2.875 ghz stable but working on 2.9 right now.

[AlabamaCajun]

Yes, I think I'm seeing the seeing the same thing. Auto drops below 1.25, somewhere like 1.235 or something but CPUZ says if 1.26. AOD reads lower like 1.2136. I'll stick a brisbane or something in this board next week to see what it does. If beotches the Phenom Black.

[Daveburt714]

Just checked on NewEgg, and my RMA chip is on it's way...

I'm kinda scared now though, I was looking at this thread:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=183422
Seems like folks with the 0810 BPAW's are getting really good OC's out of them, and that's the stepping/batch I returned....

I worked that chip for about 5 Days, even reverted all the way back to the F3 & F4 Bios and couldn't get it stable even at stock!

If I get this new chip, have the same problems and find out it's a DS5 board/bios problem I'm gonna be pizzed...

Sure hope I didn't RMA a Golden Chip!

So far I have only been able to get 2.875 ghz stable but working on 2.9 right now.

That's really not too shabby man! Phenoms are like women, it takes along time to figure them out and after a few months of petting her just right she might turn out to be better than you originally thought...

[Majmac]

<SNIP>


That's really not too shabby man! Phenoms are like women, it takes along time to figure them out and after a few months of petting her just right she might turn out to be better than you originally thought...

Unlike Miss Piggy in your 'siggy'!!

[AlabamaCajun]

I'm running 2x2G in my DS5 and I think it's the MOBO. It might have to do with 4G which sucks because I want 4G. I'll try the 2x1Gs before I pull the plug.

I ran both Phenoms and A64s in the GBT with 4G and only the A64 was somewhat stable at stock :cry: DFI arrives today .

I'm going to hook the 5600 back up with the DS5 board and 2G then see if OCing is an option.

[Jaivan]

So anybody notice stability issues with the 9850 and the DS5/DQ6? The chip won't even run at stock speeds with 1.33v on the vCore without constant BSODs but runs just fine with my 9500 stock at 1.23v on the vCore.

[AlabamaCajun]

So anybody notice stability issues with the 9850 and the DS5/DQ6? The chip won't even run at stock speeds with 1.33v on the vCore without constant BSODs but runs just fine with my 9500 stock at 1.23v on the vCore.

Check the post just before yours. I've had nothing but trouble with both the 9500 and 9850. Got it on the DFI and so far so good.

[Jaivan]

Check the post just before yours. I've had nothing but trouble with both the 9500 and 9850. Got it on the DFI and so far so good.

I noticed the same thing with the 2GB ram sticks too. I actually have the DFI 790FX-M2R but right now its being RMAed so i have to use the DS5 as my main comp and this board is still just as bad as it was when I got my DFI the BIOS didn't even change much and it can even run my ram at 1066 unlike the DFI which can.

[Daveburt714]

So anybody notice stability issues with the 9850 and the DS5/DQ6? The chip won't even run at stock speeds with 1.33v on the vCore without constant BSODs but runs just fine with my 9500 stock at 1.23v on the vCore.

Man, don't even say that (see msg #709)!! My 96BE actually runs pretty well on the DS5. I had the same problems with the 9850, it just wouldn't run stable period!

Oh well, my RMA'd 9850 will be here tommorow... I'll post my results with the new chip, but I can't help thinking I RMA'd a keeper...

majmac: Ms. Piggy is Evil Incarnate... I got divorced after 13 years and although I don't agree with Kermits tactics I thought the pic was funny..
Guess it's just because I love women, and Bacon sandwiches...

[Rammsteiner]

The people with crashing systems due to RAM, do you run it in the 4th DIMM slot? So the most right red DIMM slot?

Cause if I plug any DIMM in there it hardly boots, if it does it BSOD's like hell. So incase you people indeed have a stick in the 4th DIMM slot, this might be a general issue (I thought I killed the DIMM slot cause I forced the 3rd and 4th slots a little out of each other in order to get 2x2GB OCZ ReaperX's to run next to each other lol). But even with normal sized DIMM it doesnt run

[AlabamaCajun]

The people with crashing systems due to RAM, do you run it in the 4th DIMM slot? So the most right red DIMM slot?

Cause if I plug any DIMM in there it hardly boots, if it does it BSOD's like hell. So incase you people indeed have a stick in the 4th DIMM slot, this might be a general issue (I thought I killed the DIMM slot cause I forced the 3rd and 4th slots a little out of each other in order to get 2x2GB OCZ ReaperX's to run next to each other lol). But even with normal sized DIMM it doesnt run

I'm thinking the problem is with the solder on the boards. My first DS5 lost channel 2 when I RMAed it. This second one behaves the same no matter what slots I used. I was forced to put the Corsairs in the B slots (red) due to the latches on my ninja blocking the first A slot. "Masts on those Pirate Ships would not fit under the bridge" I need to get me some more OCZs to try in it when I get some time.

[Rammsteiner]

Well, I first had a OCZ Vendetta cooler and forced me to use those red slots with ReaperX's. As said this doesn't actually fit, but with a little pushing it did. The two slots were a little bit in a '\/' position with the slots installed. But hey, it worked.

Than I installed the Thermal Right Ultra Extreme. This caused the DIMM on the left not being able to bend a little to the left because the DIMM was already slightly pushing on the heatsink. With a lot of force the right DIMM got in, although now it looked more like '|/', but then the right one was even more to the outside. But once again, it worked (I shaved some off the heatspreaders though because I was afraid to brake either the DIMM slot or the DIMM).

Then I removed them and plugged in 4x normal DIMMs and it would only throw BSOD's. But there's nothing to see at the 4th DIMM slot (I know it had sustained a little force which is not good), but there was nothing to see anywhere. So your theory about bad solder might be very true.

[AlabamaCajun]

That's rough having to bend sockets and alter stuff to fit. I've slightly angle forced dimms into 939 boards and none failed. I did not have to use any real force but it did have some resistance sliding under the Ninja clips at a 45deg angle going down into the socket.

About the solder, I've seen other reports about this on new egg reviews which is not the best source but this one stood out as someone with good technical knowledge. One of the factors is that lead (Pb) is reduced or no longer used in solder which is not formulated right can make the joint brittle. I applaud the RHOS efforts but it also means being more careful and doing more deep tests. GBT has a huge base of boards in the intel sector that are a lot similar to the DQ5,6 that are just solid to the tee. What happened to these AM2s, no one is talking.

[Daveburt714]

Got my replacement chip...


At least this one runs at stock! Geez, I miss my K9A2, This DS5 is squirley...

Just installed it tonight, I'll post more info later for those interested..

[Aussie FX]

Got my replacement chip...


At least this one runs at stock! Geez, I miss my K9A2, This DS5 is squirley...

Just installed it tonight, I'll post more info later for those interested..

Told you ya should have got a DQ6.

What's the manufacture date on the new one?

ps. The pig deserved it.

[Lightman]

My 9850BE 0811BPMW is working up to 2.7GHz in 64bit OS. I've also tried to boot up to 225HTT so far.

We really need new BIOS with NB voltage adjustment!

[Aussie FX]

My 9850BE 0811BPMW is working up to 2.7GHz in 64bit OS. I've also tried to boot up to 225HTT so far.

We really need new BIOS with NB voltage adjustment!

Lightman I have the same chip.

When I first got mine it clocked up to 2.9 on multis, however it didn't like the full multiplier i.e. 11,12,13. It was ok on 11.5,12.5 13.5 etc for whatever reason.
I can get my NB voltage as high as 1.55v using AOD 2.0.17, although I still can't raise it with the bios.

I haven't oc'ed it for ages because i'm folding with it now and I'm happy with it at 2.8 and it's very stable with the SMP client and the GPU2 client.

[keithlm]

Got my replacement chip...


At least this one runs at stock! Geez, I miss my K9A2, This DS5 is squirley...

Just installed it tonight, I'll post more info later for those interested..

How is that chip doing?

The new chipo I got (0811) won't run at stock on the MA790FX-DS5. At stock BIOS (optimized) I can run some applications but it will reboot at awkward times. If I change the memory from the 1066 EPP to the 800 SPD it does not improve. (And using older DDR2-400 ram will allow it to work for longer but will still crash the Prime95.)

At stock with the 9850 it boots and will run Prime95 for 15-45 minutes.

With as many people that seem to have problems with the 9850 and the Gigabyte I'm betting it's a BIOS problem and not the CPU. If I underclock the CPU Core multiplier to 10 (So 2.0Ghz) then Prime95 will run for 4 hours or so.

I think (as you have posted) that the NB is clocked incorrectly at stock for the 9850 on the DS5 motherboard. However increasing the NV VID by setting the BIOS to the -0.05 value makes the system even more unstable... so perhaps there is more than one setting that needs to change for the 9580 to be stable? We need to change: NB VID and also <Insert something else here>

Gigabyte will probably have a new BIOS that will fix things eventually; but of course we need it NOW.

But in the meantime I'm just considering ordering a new DFI 790FX-M2R now that newegg has them in stock again. I'll just throw this board over into my "stuff that doesn't get used but is not really trash but is almost trash so I don't know if I really want to use it" pile of stuff.

[Brother Esau]

How is that chip doing?

The new chipo I got (0811) won't run at stock on the MA790FX-DS5. At stock BIOS (optimized) I can run some applications but it will reboot at awkward times. If I change the memory from the 1066 EPP to the 800 SPD it does not improve. (And using older DDR2-400 ram will allow it to work for longer but will still crash the Prime95.)

At stock with the 9850 it boots and will run Prime95 for 15-45 minutes.

With as many people that seem to have problems with the 9850 and the Gigabyte I'm betting it's a BIOS problem and not the CPU. If I underclock the CPU Core multiplier to 10 (So 2.0Ghz) then Prime95 will run for 4 hours or so.

I think (as you have posted) that the NB is clocked incorrectly at stock for the 9850 on the DS5 motherboard. However increasing the NV VID by setting the BIOS to the -0.05 value makes the system even more unstable... so perhaps there is more than one setting that needs to change for the 9580 to be stable? We need to change: NB VID and also <Insert something else here>

Gigabyte will probably have a new BIOS that will fix things eventually; but of course we need it NOW.

But in the meantime I'm just considering ordering a new DFI 790FX-M2R now that newegg has them in stock again. I'll just throw this board over into my "stuff that doesn't get used but is not really trash but is almost trash so I don't know if I really want to use it" pile of stuff.

Do it Keith!