Could B3 Phenom be the rebirth of AMD....+1000MHZ OC done!

[KTE]

AOD does actually work, once the OC gets high thats when issues set in.

This might be a BIOS issue Tony. MSI board had this with all earlier BIOSes but not for a few BIOSes now. I can hit 318xMHz using AOD from 1800MHz upwards.

The different settings loading issue may appear if your system crashed with AOD open though - its then the setup files.

[aGeoM]

ok im up and running got prob with asus 790fx. with unknow device and onboard sound. it is shut off but hd audio keeps loading into DM. along with an unknown device.


but othere then that all good. 13,438 @ stock. 3dmark06

Just install ACPI driver for ATK 0110, can be downloaded from Asus or by Windows Update.

[w00dzy]

Got some results from 3dmark06

what do you guys think?

[aGeoM]

when i lower my nb multiplier it doesnt boot, any ideas?

1st Phenom rule HT<=NT. if you lower NB make sure you also lower HT: ie HT=2.0 to 1.8 -> NB=x10 to x9.

[Tony]

Got some results from 3dmark06

what do you guys think?

I think that looks dandy..what was the NB and ram speed?

[Oldguy932]

Ok, now I have it proven that cold is bad. 2.8ghz wouldn't boot up on my 9850 on the vapo unless it had like 1.4v. Windows boots up on 1.35 at 3ghz so far on my crosshair(XP-90c cooler), and the crosshair is still running on the first phenom bios which technically doesn't support the 9850 yet. I might have to get a water cooler this summer so I can ditch aircooling and just get new blocks when needed.

[w00dzy]

nb is running at 2000 and ram is running standard 400mhz dual channel.. might try bumping it up now

[Rammsteiner]

Does anyone know if the Phenom + 64 bit OS (Im on XP, although this counts for Vista too IMO) OC problems might get fixed by be it a better BIOS or Microsoft/AMD CPU driver?

Im at XP64 again and there's even upto 1.4Vcore no way to get it to run 2.8Ghz. On normal XP I could.

Am I just ed now by prefering a 64bit OS or is this just a matter of bad BIOS/software programming?

I decided to try and run lower Volts over the Core and NB, Priming for that now at stock clocks. But I really prefer better clocks though...

[eleeter]

@ eleeter: How long have you ran prime loops at 3.1? I've had mine be stable for up to four hours before showing its instability via BSOD.

I let it run last night @3.12, CPU is at 1.35v, ran for about 8 hours so far with no errors. I don't get how my HT is running reliably at 2.4 gigs, is that normal?

edit: CPU voltage is actually 1.328.

[Tony]

Sorted why winrar scores were low:

Don't have ANYTHING plugged in USB while you are running the bench...

with stick drive 1.4 to 1.8
without 2.23 to 2.4

Ohh man

LOL

[Brother Esau]

Sorted why winrar scores were low:

Don't have ANYTHING plugged in USB while you are running the bench...

with stick drive 1.4 to 1.8
without 2.23 to 2.4

Ohh man

LOL

Perplexing isn't it?

[flippin_waffles]

Could it have anything to do with Ready Boost?

[AliG]

Ok, now I have it proven that cold is bad. 2.8ghz wouldn't boot up on my 9850 on the vapo unless it had like 1.4v. Windows boots up on 1.35 at 3ghz so far on my crosshair(XP-90c cooler), and the crosshair is still running on the first phenom bios which technically doesn't support the 9850 yet. I might have to get a water cooler this summer so I can ditch aircooling and just get new blocks when needed.

at least that's good for me to hear as I have a crosshair too. Can you approximate where it cold bugs? I'm building my own phase change and I would like to know how to tune it

[justapost]

Could it have anything to do with Ready Boost?

No, same issue on winxp 32bit. It's gone if I disable EHCI support in the bios.

[w00dzy]

Sorted why winrar scores were low:

Don't have ANYTHING plugged in USB while you are running the bench...

with stick drive 1.4 to 1.8
without 2.23 to 2.4

Ohh man

LOL

thats wierd, does that include game controlers and my mouse?! i hope so

btw ive clocked my nb to 2400 which did require me to up the voltage to get it stable however my 3dmark score only increased by 70 mainly on the gfx card..

is there a way to clock the ram up without using the fsb? as when i touch the fsb things start to mess up

[Tony]

thats wierd, does that include game controlers and my mouse?! i hope so

btw ive clocked my nb to 2400 which did require me to up the voltage to get it stable however my 3dmark score only increased by 70 mainly on the gfx card..

is there a way to clock the ram up without using the fsb? as when i touch the fsb things start to mess up

Set 1066 mode if you are at 800

HTT m8 not FSB...FSB is Intel only

[Brother Esau]

@Tony,.Could you please take you're DMM and read what the Vcore set in Bios is actual REAL on the DMM please? Just wish to cross Reference with Justapost DMM Reading on his Sapphire Mobo .

I am currently on 4/15/08 Beta

[Tony]

Installing vista64 with SP1. gonna be a while m8...got 2x3870X2's arriving tomorrow and have to post some results for Sapphire

Why they did not send me their DFI clone to do this on I don't know

Will look at it this week brother

[Brother Esau]

Bios: 1.3125V
CPU-Z: 1.312V
DMM: 1.358V

dV = 0.046V !!!

Huge overvolt here
NB voltage measurement is very accurate in opposite to the vcore dV =~0.01V. Also I'm on Sapphire 415 bios atm, guess it's the same as the 415 DFI, just with different sensor mappings (AUX=CPU,CPU=PWM) and the sapphire logo. Gonna update my siggy now.
I like that lingam picture btw.

Heres what Achim posted just few minutes ago.
Man I gotta get a FLUKE DMM keep putting it off and the one I have is Ghetto!

[Tony]

Small update:

Setting 1.67V Vdimm bios on the DFI results in 1.805V on the board real, I was able to fully install vista and XP at this voltage with 8000 reaperX at 1066 5-6-6-24-30 195ns...

So, undervolting (bios values) may be worth experimenting with at this time..

[justapost]

Heres what Achim posted just few minutes ago.
Man I gotta get a FLUKE DMM keep putting it off and the one I have is Ghetto!

Accuracy of the DMM in the 0.4-4V area is 1&#37; ~0.014V
It's an EXTECH 330 http://www.extech.com/instrument/pro...pha/ex330.html

[Rammsteiner]

A little update.

Im priming now 13.5x200. Not for very long though but it seems stable thus far. This is on XP64 btw (no one knows whether there might be a BIOS/driver released which solves instability with Phenom OC's on 64 bit OS's?).

I also ran AOD, although the program doesnt make much sense IMO as it insta nukes your BIOS settings by applying its own Voltages etc. I ran the autoclock feature and I only got 207Mhz (found that when I restarted from the BSOD).

Ill be trying to lower Vcore if 2.7Ghz is stable (it's 1.35V in BIOS). From lowest Vcore+101% Ill try to bump the HTT a little and see where it brings me.

Then Ill try to OC the NB, curious what that will give me. After that, especially with such a crap HTref, Ill try and get my RAM to run DDR800 3-3-3 or so.

Im just a bit disappointed really by the poor 64bit OS + Phenom results. I REALLY hope it's just a matter of crappy programming, be it by BIOS or eventual driver, but Im afraid not. Anyhow, Ill try and get the best out of it and wait for C1~C2 revision I guess (that's 45nm right?).

Things I might order soon are a 3Ware9650SE RAID controller, 2 GPU coolers (Ill pencil mod my GPU's) and MAYBE 2x2GB Crucial Red thingies. Although I dont think the latter addition would be really necesairy. AM2 RAM clocking is very depending on Drive Strenghts. I managed to boot up at DDR800 3-3-3 already so most likely it's a semi timing or Drive Strength issue before it runs stable. Only thing is, Drive Strengths won't really insta rape your RAM but in the longer run, especially with Micron IC's, they can catalyze Electron Migration.

[Tony]

Well its proven, vista 64 and winrar sucketh large compared to XP 32bit.

XP 2.32KB/s
Vista64 1.8ish KB/s

want to show off with winrar, do it in XP

[Rammsteiner]

Well its proven, vista 64 and winrar sucketh large compared to XP 32bit.

XP 2.32KB/s
Vista64 1.8ish KB/s

want to show off with winrar, do it in XP

Im on XP64, not Vista though.

Im not really after benchmark results, more why 2.8Ghz was running nicely on vanilla XP32 install, but after adding 0.1Vcore it still wouldn't run without freezing on XP64. Im just wondering why a 64bit OS lowers Phenom's OC results. And if it's possible to get it fixed or not.

[w00dzy]

Set 1066 mode if you are at 800

HTT m8 not FSB...FSB is Intel only

sweet, u think my ram would cope with that??

thats impresive if it will!

i tried clocking the nb up to 2400 by raising the multiplier and bumped the voltage to 1.4 however it was unstable.. onlt got 70 extra points in 3dmark so prob not worth it anyway...