**Official DFI LanParty UT 790FX-M2R Review/Overclock/Guide Thread**

[Slagathor]

Heres 5 minutes with COREDAMAGE.....


I was thinking of dropping vcore, but if it can go to 2.9 with default, I wonder how much higher I can go.......


ninja edit:
I just noticed it says 1.25 vcore, but I didnt change it in bios, and cool and quiet is off, along with the fix thingy....

[Undersea]

"New" DFI LanParty UT 790FX-M2R ~ 4/16/2008 "Beta" Bios... Released

WOW....2 Beta Bios in 2 days GO>> DFI >>>>>>>GO http://www.dfi.com.tw/Support/Downlo...FLAG=B&SITE=US

Brother any for M2RS?

[justapost]

Brother any for M2RS?

http://www.dfi.com.tw/Support/Downlo...FLAG=B&SITE=US

[Brother Esau]

Brother Esau , if you was here I would kiss ya .....(if you was a girl).....

Bios flashed slicker-n-snot.......

Now, how hot is too hot?????

I know my TRUE is in good contact with the CPU, the heat pouring out of it is unreal. But load temps across the cores are in the high 40's to low 50's when crunching Seti with optimized clients, CPU running 2800mhz....

Depends on you're Ambient temperature 80F I prime around 49-51c @2800mhz

Will be sending my CoolIt Eliminator in for RMA and upon return I will start to lean on this chip and crank up the volume so to speak.

[Brother Esau]

OH MY GOD I don't believe it!!!!!!! AMD Overdrive is Working and have opened it and closed it about 30 times now without any sort of lock up or random shut down Wait for it!...Wait for it!!!! Until........I installed CPUZ current build and opened it when AMD Overdive was open and........Can "O" Whoop Ass came out as Fast as a Frigging Six Shooter at the OK Corral BSOD of Giganormous Proportion Other then that one not so friendly incident it is working just peachy! Don't know anything about using it as I am ignorant about what and what not to do with this temperamental piece of software


Also on 4/16/2008 Beta Bios so far have not come to any conclusion ATM except all is working correctly as it would appear but one thing is that the Temps have increased in this release compared to the 4/15/08 Beta only by a couple of degrees celcius but even still I wish DFI would really stop bouncing around with that one as it confuses you as to what is right and whats not right as far as what is correct read out on these blasted components!

[Oese]

Ahem/......I say old Boy! I should think so oli

yeah campbell i know i know but that was in your system.. i now have to redo here different ram .. to undertake fatal8ty cant wait for that ****** ram as it is on the way right now ....

dammit.. whats up dfi?? i mean i like many many bios to test but sorry this was that fast finished 16h primetest with 04/15 now go on with 04/16 WASSUP????

[Jaivan]

Also on 4/16/2008 Beta Bios so far have not come to any conclusion ATM except all is working correctly as it would appear but one thing is that the Temps have increased in this release compared to the 4/15/08 Beta only by a couple of degrees celcius but even still I wish DFI would really stop bouncing around with that one as it confuses you as to what is right and whats not right as far as what is correct read out on these blasted components!

Thats odd because I noticed that temps dropped a little form the 4/15/08 BIOS and i also noticed that the v-droop was larger then before. In previous BIOSes 1.4v would give me 1.392v while now I'm getting 1.376v.

[Brother Esau]

Thats odd because I noticed that temps dropped a little form the 4/15/08 BIOS and i also noticed that the v-droop was larger then before. In previous BIOSes 1.4v would give me 1.392v while now I'm getting 1.376v.

Just one of them situations where the variables are different from board to board I guess.

[Brother Esau]

yeah campbell i know i know but that was in your system.. i now have to redo here different ram .. to undertake fatal8ty cant wait for that ****** ram as it is on the way right now ....

dammit.. whats up dfi?? i mean i like many many bios to test but sorry this was that fast finished 16h primetest with 04/15 now go on with 04/16 WASSUP????

I know right

[Oese]

life is so damn unfair

[Rammsteiner]

Hmmm, strange. I think I found at least a little solution for the Phenom Priming stable but else being instable.

Prime with Large FFT's instead of Small. THough Im not 100% sure.

2.9Ghz is acting strange though. It's crashing everytime after the same amount of time at the same test. I added a little Vcore as well a Vnb ut it still happens. Maybe it needs some tweaking on the NB, but I dont hope so.

Brother E, how do you determine whether your Phenom is stable or not? If you Prime, what test do you use?

I think I can get atleast 2.8Ghz though, but I really hope I can bump it upto 3Ghz or so.

Also did anyone found max HTT on the M2R yet with Phenom? Thinking of using lower multi's and upping the HTT to have some RAM OC's (prefer 800 over 1066 IMO).

[Undersea]

Well I'm a little discourged thus far.

I can bump x13 at stock volts and it runs at 2.6 Rock solid.

Anything more and I get lock ups. I've added some volts and reduced HT.

I've read somewhere of people just changing multi with the same board and running 3.0

I'm still a little foggy on the "phenom bios settings" and practical application.

So I may not switch the stock cooler. I may just send the chip back RMA.

The AOD seems to work now but its not helping me OC, I took it off the computer I don't trust it.

But I will put some more serious effort in tonight.

[KTE]

Were your timings and background processes EXACT for the WinRAR comparison Cam? The results are very good, more than what you usually can get. Thanks for the comparison, helps much in deciding BIOS with better MEM perf

About stability testing:- whoever said SnM, damn that application is second to only Intel TAT in stress. Beats Linpack hands down. Furthermore, it can detect Tcase, Tjunction, voltages, fan speeds, tests CPU, Cache, FPU, HD, MEM, graphs it all working out many statistics auto. Excellent app

I've tested 14 stability testers yesterday but on Intel builds. Can't test on Phenom until it starts up.
Best ones so far are SnM, BurnIn Test, System Stability Tester, SysTools.
Worst ones are Burnin 2008, OCCT and Orthos.
Highest system loads are with SnM and Intel TAT.

And Cam - man you have a lot of reading to do
You're not supposed to open two such monitoring apps together, they can and most of the times do set your readings and OS haywire

Only open CPUZ/EVE after AOD, like I've been saying right from the beginning as did Sami as has done Feiry - that they will most likely conflict. Exactly the same with any other "monitoring tool" which accesses same readings AOD does, don't try and cause a crash by opening both that conflict due to the way the software works.

[Brother Esau]

Were your timings and background processes EXACT for the WinRAR comparison Cam? The results are very good, more than what you usually can get. Thanks for the comparison, helps much in deciding BIOS with better MEM perf >>>>Yes they were Tye

About stability testing:- whoever said SnM, damn that application is second to only Intel TAT in stress. Beats Linpack hands down. Furthermore, it can detect Tcase, Tjunction, voltages, fan speeds, tests CPU, Cache, FPU, HD, MEM, graphs it all working out many statistics auto. Excellent app

I've tested 14 stability testers yesterday but on Intel builds. Can't test on Phenom until it starts up.
Best ones so far are SnM, BurnIn Test, System Stability Tester, SysTools. >>>>Whats SnM??????
Worst ones are Burnin 2008, OCCT and Orthos.
Highest system loads are with SnM and Intel TAT.

And Cam - man you have a lot of reading to do >>>Yes I do and I agree!

You're not supposed to open two such monitoring apps together, they can and most of the times do set your readings and OS haywire >>>>>I forgots But remembered in a real quick hurry upon receiving my Present from Micro$

Only open CPUZ/EVE after AOD, like I've been saying right from the beginning as did Sami as has done Feiry - that they will most likely conflict. Exactly the same with any other "monitoring tool" which accesses same readings AOD does, don't try and cause a crash by opening both that conflict due to the way the software works.

KTE.......How is the Stability Tester on AMD Overdrive? Also seeing how you are going to be having this board and DFI 790FX Crew is very late to get AOD support properly with Bios Code how would you feel about working on a AMD Overdrive Guide Tutorial for the D.F.I 790FX owners with me? I can assist any way you feel thats pertinent with your guidance of course

Also I have asked this once before and have gotten no response >>>..How do we all feel about having a consolidated D.F.I LanParty 790FX-M2R - M2RS / Phenom Thread that will focus in on Overclocking Basic do's and dont's of working with Phenom , AMD Overdrive Focus, AND Recommended Ram / Hardware , and Phenom Bios Database Need some feedback as I shall take No Such Liberty of Creating a thread such as that without a Vote from D.F.I 790FX Owners I have no intention of excluding owners with Dual Core AMD Processors nor do I wish to make non Phenom owners feel slighted and left out in any fashion!

I do feel that TRI Core & Quad Core is the way of the Future and will likely represent 95% of the Member Base on this Thread in a quick hurry.

[Oese]

Also I have asked this once before and have gotten no response >>>..How do we all feel about having a consolidated D.F.I LanParty 790FX-M2R - M2RS / Phenom Thread that will focus in on Overclocking Basic do's and dont's of working with Phenom , AMD Overdrive Focus, AND Recommended Ram / Hardware , and Phenom Bios Database Need some feedback as I shall take No Such Liberty of Creating a thread such as that without a Vote from D.F.I 790FX Owners I have no intention of excluding owners with Dual Core AMD Processors nor do I wish to make non Phenom owners feel slighted and left out in any fashion!

I do feel that TRI Core & Quad Core is the way of the Future and will likely represent 95% of the Member Base on this Thread in a quick hurry.

i'd think that'll be good as phenom oc is much more complicated and every board seems to have its own pecularities with phenom.. would be much more helpful to users new on this board AND phenom than reading this MEGA thread...

this here can remain simply as the board thread in general....

[Slagathor]

I vote YEA, that would be an invaulable resource......

KTE.......How is the Stability Tester on AMD Overdrive? Also seeing how you are going to be having this board and DFI 790FX Crew is very late to get AOD support properly with Bios Code how would you feel about working on a AMD Overdrive Guide Tutorial for the D.F.I 790FX owners with me? I can assist any way you feel thats pertinent with your guidance of course

Also I have asked this once before and have gotten no response >>>..How do we all feel about having a consolidated D.F.I LanParty 790FX-M2R - M2RS / Phenom Thread that will focus in on Overclocking Basic do's and dont's of working with Phenom , AMD Overdrive Focus, AND Recommended Ram / Hardware , and Phenom Bios Database Need some feedback as I shall take No Such Liberty of Creating a thread such as that without a Vote from D.F.I 790FX Owners I have no intention of excluding owners with Dual Core AMD Processors nor do I wish to make non Phenom owners feel slighted and left out in any fashion!

I do feel that TRI Core & Quad Core is the way of the Future and will likely represent 95% of the Member Base on this Thread in a quick hurry.

[stocius]

I've just found my DFI M2R, I got it around November or December and I plain forgot all about it! At least I finally remembered it and now I can join the party.
Sweet avatar Brother Esau, that's from the Grateful Dead, Steal Your Face right? It's nice to see the TLB fixed that could've wreaked havoc on my servers with Barcelona Opteron 8222. Many thanks to all of you who have kept this thread clean and focused on the task at hand (there can be a lot of hatred and BSing on once reputable forums, don't quite know why that is).

Brother Esau, it might be a good idea to start a phenom thread as this thread is getting quite long and there is SO much to learn about phenom. Take my vote with a grain of salt as I'm a newcomer. Peace all!

[KTE]

KTE.......How is the Stability Tester on AMD Overdrive?

I honestly haven't tested how good is it yet [meaning testing a stable and unstable setting for 8 hours each] - I'll do it as soon as I can and then respond

Also seeing how you are going to be having this board and DFI 790FX Crew is very late to get AOD support properly with Bios Code how would you feel about working on a AMD Overdrive Guide Tutorial for the D.F.I 790FX owners with me?

Sure, but I need to play with it myself first

[B]Also I have asked this once before and have gotten no response >>>..How do we all feel about having a consolidated D.F.I LanParty 790FX-M2R - M2RS / Phenom Thread that will focus in on Overclocking Basic do's and dont's of working with Phenom , AMD Overdrive Focus, AND Recommended Ram / Hardware , and Phenom Bios Database

Like I said above, I can't answer to this until I play around with DFI again now. The DFI I used before was a different rev. to the boards out now, it was with B2 and it was also on a much worse BIOS. Need to update myself with DFI again now.

I've held back from making any sort of Phenom guide, I was planning on doing it 3 months ago. Mainly because frankly, it is taking this long for us and the MB MFGs to work out Phenom, sort major support, compatibility and bugs out and I don't want to affirm or negate something in it prematurely which is less than accurate like is usually done online - also things have been changing everyday with MB, BIOS, Phenom quirks, older BIOSes even function different to newer ones. Now they're much more consistent and stable but still, things can be added which change the fundamental principles. By late April, we as a community should be at a stable [knolwedged/experienced] stage to make a collaborated guide with accuracy IMHO.

[Brother Esau]

I've just found my DFI M2R, I got it around November or December and I plain forgot all about it! At least I finally remembered it and now I can join the party.
Sweet avatar Brother Esau, that's from the Grateful Dead, Steal Your Face right? It's nice to see the TLB fixed that could've wreaked havoc on my servers with Barcelona Opteron 8222. Many thanks to all of you who have kept this thread clean and focused on the task at hand (there can be a lot of hatred and BSing on once reputable forums, don't quite know why that is).

Brother Esau, it might be a good idea to start a phenom thread as this thread is getting quite long and there is SO much to learn about phenom. Take my vote with a grain of salt as I'm a newcomer. Peace all!

Yes it is

Announcement:........I have Started a Poll Thread in Regards to The "Dedicated" DFI LanParty 790FX-M2R & M2RS / Phenom Database thread

Please take the Time to cast you're Vote in the Poll Thread and also Post you're opinions / Concerns or what ever in the Thread Please

It is Important that everyone Express their opinion and views on this as thats what makes up a community such as this .

[justapost]

@Undersea: Have you seen the link for the M2RS Beta Bios I poste? Did you try it?

[Undersea]

http://www.dfi.com.tw/Support/Downlo...FLAG=B&SITE=US

I'm giving it a whirl. I'm having problems OCing this chip

[Tony]

Was hoping to alter bios to get it reading correctly but the versions of modbin I have here that opens the bios correctly will not allow any changes...so i will be mailing Jimmy with the findings here in the hope they will alter the bios options.

For now please be aware the board overvolts the memory quite a lot, setting 1.8v in bios actually sets 1.93v on the board.

for your enjoyment i have mapped out what i regard the true working range.

on the left the bios value....on the right the actual value measured with a DMM.

1.37=1.49
1.38=1.50
1.39=1.51 
1.40=1.53
1.41=1.54
1.42=1.55 
1.43=1.56
1.44=1.575
1.45=1.58
1.46=1.59
1.47=1.60
1.48=1.62
1.49=1.63
1.50=1.64
1.51=1.645
1.52=1.65   
1.53=1.66
1.54=1.67
1.55=1.69
1.56=1.70                           
1.57=1.71
1.58=1.72
1.59=1.73
1.61=1.75
1.62=1.76
1.63=1.77
1.64=1.78
1.65=1.79
1.66=1.8
1.67=1.81
1.68=1.82
1.69=1.83
1.70=1.84
1.71=1.85
1.72=1.86
1.73=1.87
1.74=1.88
1.76=1.89
1.77=1.9
1.78=1.91
1.8=1.93
1.82=1.94
1.83=1.95
1.85=1.97
1.87=1.99
1.90=2.01
1.93=2.03
1.96=2.06
2.0=2.08
2.03=2.12
2.07=2.15
2.12=2.19
2.16=2.23
2.21=2.28
2.26=2.32

I will suggest to DFI this is all we actually need, most DDR2 is topping out on the 790FX M2R around 2.1 to 2.2V max, so allowing to 2.3 is more than enough.

[justapost]

I will suggest to DFI this is all we actually need, most DDR2 is topping out on the 790FX M2R around 2.1 to 2.2V max, so allowing to 2.3 is more than enough.

With CB Tracers and 2.0V in bios everst reads 2.03V for DIMM here. Those are rated for 533 at 2.2V so a 2.3V limit is abit low. At 2.3V they run at ~40°. Not that I plan to run 24/7 above 2.3V but for testing and benching id miss that.

EDIT A different story at 1.8V everest reads 1.86V here.

[aGeoM]

2.12=2.19
2.16=2.23
2.16=2.28
2.26=2.32

The 2nd 2.16 we should read 2.21 right?

Thanks for your effort

[Brother Esau]

Was hoping to alter bios to get it reading correctly but the versions of modbin I have here that opens the bios correctly will not allow any changes...so i will be mailing Jimmy with the findings here in the hope they will alter the bios options.

For now please be aware the board overvolts the memory quite a lot, setting 1.8v in bios actually sets 1.93v on the board.

for your enjoyment i have mapped out what i regard the true working range.

on the left the bios value....on the right the actual value measured with a DMM.

1.37=1.49
1.38=1.50
1.39=1.51 
1.40=1.53
1.41=1.54
1.42=1.55 
1.43=1.56
1.44=1.575
1.45=1.58
1.46=1.59
1.47=1.60
1.48=1.62
1.49=1.63
1.50=1.64
1.51=1.645
1.52=1.65   
1.53=1.66
1.54=1.67
1.55=1.69
1.56=1.70                           
1.57=1.71
1.58=1.72
1.59=1.73
1.61=1.75
1.62=1.76
1.63=1.77
1.64=1.78
1.65=1.79
1.66=1.8
1.67=1.81
1.68=1.82
1.69=1.83
1.70=1.84
1.71=1.85
1.72=1.86
1.73=1.87
1.74=1.88
1.76=1.89
1.77=1.9
1.78=1.91
1.8=1.93
1.82=1.94
1.83=1.95
1.85=1.97
1.87=1.99
1.90=2.01
1.93=2.03
1.96=2.06
2.0=2.08
2.03=2.12
2.07=2.15
2.12=2.19
2.16=2.23
2.16=2.28
2.26=2.32

I will suggest to DFI this is all we actually need, most DDR2 is topping out on the 790FX M2R around 2.1 to 2.2V max, so allowing to 2.3 is more than enough.

I was going to actually bring this up to you Tony and have you whisper in the little birdies ear about it

Could you also please let them know that the 4/16/08 Beta Runs "Hot" and have a feeling that allot more then just vdimm is being over volted and not reading correctly in Genie Bios Page at the Bottom and also Power Management where temps and Voltage is displayed as well. I will be Flashing back to 4/15/2008 for that Reason Primarily the system is just cooking and I have stuff under volted as usual