GeIL DDR2 EVO ONE 2x2GB DDR800 CAS4 - Review

[beard]

Hmm, this is nice memory but i'm having troubles with my mobo, had always issues with it (combo mobo was a mistake). Yesterday when i read Spyrus requesting for results i tried 375 fsb with mem @ 562.5 (1125) and it seemed to work ok at 2.0v cl5 (same timings as in screenshot but 5-5-5-15), passed superpi 32m so i left orthos mem stress running over the night and it failed. So today I was having trouble to pass spi 32m at 2.0-2,2v, only 2.3v. Seems to be stable, orhos running for 2.5 hours. Don't know why memset shows 570mhz, the real clock is 562.5.

[Spyrus]

If you are running on a non-default multi then memset report wrong dram mhz.
Confirmed on X38 look a picture above at 8x multi and divider 5:6 instead of 9x multi.

[SoMBrA]

Hello guys!
I recently ordered these ones:
http://www.alternate.es/html/product...wTechData=true

The specification at the home page say they work at 2.1v - 2.3v range, are these babys the "good ones?" (with the best chip i mean...)

They are 2x 2GB PC8500 (5-5-5-15) but i have no clue how to find out the chip they are using before order them, any clues?

[SoMBrA]

Hey ToMeGuN im glad to hear that! Thanks a lot

Now i will have to decide for a Mobo, since the DFI is not available atm! How is that Gigabyte you have there?

[Spyrus]

Most have the 800@4-4-4 ones but i think those can be as good.

[Spyrus]

And what did he tell you?

[SoMBrA]

Hello again ToMeGuN, thanks for the info once more!
Finally i had to order the Formula Rampage! Hope i dont have your Maximus troubles on this one

[RealTelstar]

Since you guys have a lot of experience with this kit. Do you guys think that running this kit w/ a q6600 is ideal?

I had 4x1 ballistix (ddr2 800) doing 420mhz 1:1 and I couldn't get anything else really stable over that. I had to pull a lot of volts, i think 2.3 or 2.35 and they blew out after 6 months of use.

My quad is capable of 3.78ghz + (I won't go past 1.55v in the bios) and I'm looking for the best bandwidth I can get for a 24/7 machine.

BUY? YES/NO?

EDIT: If I you guys think its worth it in my case, what is an ideal ratio to set the ram at? Most people here do not seem to be doing 1:1.

I'm in a similar situation to yours, but dual core not quad - my mobo absolutely hate having 4 slots populated. I preferred to have more than faster.
But now that I can have both, i'm going to put a good 2x2gig set and see the limits of my 6600.

Let me know your results.

[[XC] Synthetickiller]

I'm in a similar situation to yours, but dual core not quad - my mobo absolutely hate having 4 slots populated. I preferred to have more than faster.
But now that I can have both, i'm going to put a good 2x2gig set and see the limits of my 6600.

Let me know your results.

I haven't had a lot of time to really work with my computer OC wise. Honestly, the highest I've gotten my quad ever was 3.825 ghz stable. I do not want to pump in more than 1.55v as I don't really see myself selling it anytime soon and if I do, it will probably be to a friend and I don't it to die.

Even if I loosen timings w/ these (5-5-5-15), I can't even get prime95 stable w/ 420x9. I am not sure why. Since I have some tests coming up, I can just sit infront of the computer and let prime run 8 hours. I am doing stability testing w. these @ 4-4-4-12 @ 2.25v. These don't hold water to the previous version of this kit. From what I've seen although I am running 1:1 and q6600s don't like super high clocks. I'm cooling on water, so you won't see much magic coming from this chip.

Since I cannot really get anything higher than 410x9 right now, i'm just going to keep pushing the timings. I might work down to 3-3-3-9 if thats at all possible. That will probably occur tomorrow if my current stress test passes 8 hours. Then I'll start working on the sub-timings.

I also have some vdroop which is slightly bothersome. 1.55v in bios vs 1.504v under prime. I know this chip could do 4.0ghz, but probably under a voltage that isn't 24/7 safe. I have one of the older G0s from last summer. I don't think they OC as well, so compared to most people's chips, my doesn't really do that great of a job for 24/7 use. Just keep that in mind.

If you aren't looking for more than 3.6ghz or so w/ these kits shouldn't give you a problem. They are now 100 on newegg after MIR. I payed 130.

[[XC] Synthetickiller]

I've had pretty bad luck with ram, so maybe someone can post thier OC w/ a "good" kit.

I could get NOTHING stable w/ anything over 400mhz @ 4-4-4-12. Everything had to be 5-5-5-15. Even at 410x9, which is just stupid.

I was able to get 4-4-4-10 @ 3.6ghz prime stable 9hours +. I am going to try and crank down the timings as anything close to 3.71 ghz requires such loose timing with my kit that its pointless.

Just a quick overview.
frequency = 400
RAMv = 2.3v
Timings = 4-4-4-10 (all subtimings auto right now)
I might try to crank up the volts a little and go for mayeb 3-3-3-9 or something close @ this speed.



This is just as bad as my Gskill kit that I got a while back (the ddr2 1000 kit). Both seem to OC like a toaster trying to cook a turkey. I miss my old Crucial ballstix. Now that was a good kit. I probably should have just bought the crucial ddr2 800 2x2 kit as that one WOULD kick ass compared to these kits if they do OC like the 1 gig sticks did.

I don't mind my quad @ 3.6 as its fast enough for any game, but its disappointing that I had 3.78ghz stable on prime w/ my old kits which populated all 4 slots. Next time, I'll send more cash for dominators or the ballistixs kits.

I'm glad everyone else who got the kits rated @ 1.9v got a great OC'able kit.

Has anyone really pushed the 2.1-2.3v versions at all yet?

Edit: I had 3.71 ghz stable @ 4-4-4-12, 2.3v for 41 minutes before failing prime95. Only one core failed. No BSOD. 412x9 or so (my bios doesn't round the numbers, its a strange bios, thanks a lot asus, lol). This is pitiful considering I have enough v through the CPU to be stable since I've pushed it harder than this. Very strange indeed. Next time i get ram, I'm dropping more cash on it as these "cheap" kits never work out too well for me.

[SoMBrA]

Hello guys!

Finally got my computer up and running but having problems with ASUS!
The system used to boot with the default settings, but suddenly it wont boot if there is ram @ slot 1-2 (if i put them @ 3-4 system boots normal!)

I tried to put manually the ram setting and leave them auto but it wont boot

Anyone with these ram and Asus Formula Rampage by any chance? (i have Geil Evo One 2x2Gb PC8500 5-5-5-15 - 2.2 ~ 2.4v)

[Spyrus]

Try memtest and tell me if you sticker say 2.0V on hsf

[SoMBrA]

I ran memtest from windows and got no errors, it ran for 1hr but tonight i will leave it much more time.

Sticker says 2.2v-2.4v (at website they are supposed to be 2.1-2.3!)
As i said i tried to set the values manually at bios but wont boot, i dont know maybe the mobo is the problem?

The weirdest thing is that it was working a week ago :/ (i was waiting for graphic card so didnt used it for a couple of days)

[Gogeta]

I sympathize for you, Synthetickiller...RAM being dictated by the game of luck makes speculation a true time sink.

Did you purchase your kit recently?

[Giacomo]

Hello folks, please, could anyone sum up for me which voltage should be read on the sticker in order to have the best GeIL Evo One 2x2GB 800MHz CL4 ones?

Because I'm in good relationship with a shop, and maybe I could ask them to pick a good kit for me, if you tell me what to check.

Thank you so much.
Giacomo

[Spyrus]

Look at the pictures in this thread at early posts.
There you can see the ram module itself with the sticker on heatspreader
that denotes 2.0V and only that.
Any other (1.9-2.0,2.1-2.3 etc) usually is not as good.

[Giacomo]

Look at the pictures in this thread at early posts.
There you can see the ram module itself with the sticker on heatspreader
that denotes 2.0V and only that.
Any other (1.9-2.0,2.1-2.3 etc) usually is not as good.

Thank you. I hope my shop will be glad to pick a good kit for me. I'll let you know how this story ends.

Giacomo

[[XC] Synthetickiller]

I sympathize for you, Synthetickiller...RAM being dictated by the game of luck makes speculation a true time sink.

Did you purchase your kit recently?

I got the EVO ONE about 2 months ago. Its holding @ stock fine. I really can't push it at all and kind of gave up due to lack of time I can dedicate to it. The Gskill was from December.

I game, but since I'm running nothing new (playing homeworld from 1999 right now), there's no issue.

I think I'll either get dominators next time or some micron chips as I have had very bad luck with powerpc chips as of late.

I might try to OC it better in the summer when finals are over. I think I might pop the gskills back in and try them @ 4-4-4-15 or so around 840. The new EVO ones (at least my kit) really hates anything over 820 which is pitiful considering its 800mhz ram.

[Jethro]

Evo 2 x 1mb kit = 943 @ 4 4 4 12 ~2.1v or 1100 @ 5 5 5 15 ~2.1v

These are maxing cpu settings not the rams max, not bad for such a cheap kit.

I get the same mb's at either setting so i run the low latency. 10k mb's / 39~40 latency

[Spyrus]

Very good for CAS 4 indeed!

[Sadhana]

Okay, I've already read this thread and still confused which is the 'best' Geil 4gb kit: this one (Evo One C4 2.0), Evo One PC8500 or Esoteria PC6400? Atm, I have DFI Lanparty UT P35 T2R and Wolfdale E8200 waiting for 4gb kit

[trt740]

maximus formula and it won't boot past ddr2 800 any Idea on some bios setting?

sample bios settings

Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 333
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-800
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 45 There is no 42
Write Recovery Time : auto
Read to Precharge Time : auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : lighter
Transaction Booster : Disabled
Relax level: 0

CPU Voltage : auto
CPU PLL Voltage : AUTO
Dram voltage 2.0v can be per sticker on ram1.9v to 2.25v
North Bridge Voltage : 1.53
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2 REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2 REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

[Sadhana]

Anyone, can give any comment about my question above? I really appreciate for the suggestion before I'll buy 4gb kit.

[Spyrus]

Not many have the Evo 8500 so i think Evo CL4 and then Esoteria are your best bet, but only if 2.0V is on sticker like mine and the reviewed ones.

[Raven_]

So, is the evo one worth the money?
Its the 800mhz cl4 i could be interested in.